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Jesus claiming to be the "Alpha and the Omega":

From www.jewsforjudaism.org:

Question : In the Book of Revelation we find the verse, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8). But what do you do with Revelation 22:13, which appears to be Jesus speaking (see verse 16), when he says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end"? Doesn't the command by Matthew's Jesus to, "Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) show the existence of a triune deity.

Answer: Despite the distinctiveness with which God and Jesus are regarded in the New Testament some Christians are under the misconception that God and Jesus form two-thirds of a triune deity. Partial responsibility for this error is due to the New Testament writers, who use a number of designations for Jesus, which are the same as those given to God in the Jewish Bible and in the New Testament. The resulting confusion as to whether certain New Testament passages refer to God or to Jesus helped to produce the belief in a triune god.
That Jesus, who is considered by the New Testament writers to be the link between God and creation, is called by some of the same designations that are applied to God is understandable. After all, the New Testament writers believed that God had conferred a tremendous amount of power upon this angelic being, so why not, as well, some of His names, which express certain facets of His being? But it is nevertheless clear that although the God of the New Testament interacts with the world He created solely through His "firstborn" (Colossians 1:15-17), the latter is still subservient to God. Because of the exalted yet subservient position in which they envision Jesus, the New Testament writers do not believe it compromises God's status to apply some of His names to Jesus (cf. Ephesians 1:21, Philippians 2:9, Hebrews 1:4). The use of common names is not intended to indicate that Jesus is of one substance with God.

Perhaps, if "the Alpha and the Omega" in Revelations 22:13 is actually a reference to Jesus it stems from the New Testament belief that the pre-incarnate Jesus was the first thing created by God. What is significant is not so much the use of this name as the fact that whenever the relationship between God and Jesus is treated, the New Testament writers always describe God as superior to Jesus.

In any case, in verse 12 the subject of verse 13 ("the Alpha and the Omega") says he is "coming quickly." Since Jesus has not come "quickly" this is either false prophecy or the text is not speaking about Jesus.

  

From www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm:

  

  

Who is the Alpha and Omega?

It is not clear whether Jesus was called the Alpha and Omega.  A Christian research found that there are deliberate mistranslations put [2].  But my answer below assumes that Jesus was called the Alpha and Omega.  Even with this worst case scenario, we clearly see that Jesus is still NOT the Creator of the Universe!

So having said that, let's see now Jesus as the Alpha and Omega:

  • Jesus is the Alpha and Omega (beginning and end) of the entire Jewish Covenant and Law, and is focused on the 12 tribes of Israel.  See Revelations 1:8, 21:6, and 22:12.
      
  • In Revelation 22, we read:
      
    Revelation 22 (NIV)
    Eden Restored
    1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, 
    bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.
      
      
      
  • 12 Thrones for the Disciples:
      
    Jesus also promised his disciples 12 thrones in Heaven to judge the 12 tribes of Israel:

    Will Judas or Matthias sit at the Throne? Is Gambling allowed in Christianity? Why were the disciples disputing on the 12th disciple if the Holy Spirit was the One who chose him?

    Matthew 19
    28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on
      
     
    twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [1] [2]
      
      
      
    Jesus' Mansion:
      
    This also perfectly fits Jesus' statement about the Mansion that Jesus will setup for his followers from among Heaven's
    "many Mansions" (John 14:1-4) as the Bible says.  Please visit: 
      
    Jesus Christ said that Heaven has many Mansions, and that his Mansion is for him and his followers Does the Quran support that Heaven has Believers from a variety of Faiths and Creeds?
      
      
      
    Prophet Muhammad [1]:
      
    Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was thoroughly prophesied in the previous Scriptures as GOD Almighty's Arabian Prophet to come.  He will come from Arabia and with the New Promised Covenant for all of Mankind:
     
  • Jeremiah 51:33 Arabia has not yet met its threshold, and the time of her harvest shall come.
  • Jeremiah 31:31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.
  • Isaiah 41:8-13 GOD Almighty assures the House of Jacob that they are still loved and chosen by GOD Almighty.  Do not be afraid (of this Servant).”  Never was this said to an Israelite Prophet.  THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF JACOB were commanded to not be afraid of him, because he will be a NON-ISRAELITE Prophet.
      
  • Isaiah 41 and 42:6, 42:10-13  The Arabian Prophet will come from the people of Kedar with The New Covenant Read more...
      
      
  • Regarding the Alpha and Omega for Jesus, however, in Revelation 1, we find a clear distinction between GOD Almighty and Jesus:
      
    Revelation 1
    4 John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne,
    5
    and from Jesus Christ (NOTICE THE DISTINCTION), who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,
    6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests
    to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
    7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.
    8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
      
  • Regarding the "...the Almighty" in Revelation 1:8 for Jesus:
      
  • In Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called "Mighty God".  But so did other servants of GOD Almighty also.
      
  • Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.  See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.  Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek.  He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says.  See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].
      
  • In Matthew 24:36, Jesus Christ denied having any knowledge of when Judgment Day will comeHe said: I don't know; only GOD Alone Knows!
      
      
      
    Jesus is GOD's SLAVE!
      
  • The Bible called Jesus a slave (abd) OF GOD throughout the Old Testament!
      
  • Also the many verses above that thoroughly demonstrate that Jesus is a creation and a slave of GOD Almighty.
      
  • Who is called the "Alpha and Omega" in the Bible?
  • Who is Jesus according to Islam?
  • What is Islam?
  • Why is Jesus called "Al-Masih" according to Islam?
      
      
  • Clearly, Jesus is not GOD Almighty!
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    The book of Revelation is an unreliable book according to the NIV Bible's Theologians:

    The following about the validity of the book of Revelation was taken from the article: Just who were the original authors of the Bible?!

    Also visit:

  • ***** The Hijacked Bible [1]
      
  • In Matthew 24:36, Jesus Christ denied having any knowledge of when Judgment Day will come.
      
  • He said: I don't know; only GOD Alone Knows!
  • The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek".
  • Who is Jesus according to Islam?
  • What is Islam?
  • Why is Jesus called "Al-Masih" according to Islam?
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    The Book of Revelation:

    "Four times the author identifies himself as John (1:1,4,9; 22:8).....In the third century, however, an African bishop named Dionysius compared the language, style and thought of the Apocalypse (Revelation) with that of the other writings of John and decided that the book could not been written by the apostle of John.    (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1922)"

    Again, we don't know who wrote the Book of Revelation.  It is certainly highly doubtful that it was written by Apostle John.  The Theologians and Historians of the NIV Bible seem to agree with the invalidity of this book from the above quote.  So are you now going to consider the other John's words as the Words and Inspirations of GOD Almighty?

    Notice that in the sections of "Gospel of John" and "Gospels of 1, 2 & 3  John" above, the author did not identify himself and it was ASSUMED without actual proofs that it was Saint John who wrote them.  Notice how they said that if he were to identify himself, then it would be hard for them to explain it.

    Now, notice the author in the Book of Revelation does identify himself as John, but he has a complete different language and style of writing from the other books, which created much uncertainty about its validity in the Church.

    My questions here are:  Who wrote the Books?  And is or is not Saint John supposed to identify himself in his books?  And where are his books that have his name on them?

    Again, keep in mind that the NT was not even documented on paper until 150 to 300 years after Jesus (depending on what Christian you talk to).  So the dating is way too long for us to be assuming books to belong to certain people.  Let alone considering their nonsense (contents) as the True Living Words of GOD Almighty.

    The Book of Revelation is a very important, probably the most important Book in the Bible today, because it has prophecies in it of what Christians believe is for our future today, even though it has nothing to do with our current world.  It talks about Jesus soon (1800 to 2000 years ago) will return (Revelation 22:7).  I don't know how soon is 2000 years to the Bible.  All the people that this book was told to had died.   

    It also talks about the great battle of Gog and Magog fighting the righteous; "and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth  [The earth DOES NOT have four corners and no the earth is not a square or rectangle.  It is round almost like an egg!!]--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.  (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 20:8)"

    The thing that we need to notice here beside the grave error about the shape of the earth in this false book (sorry to say that), is that the Gog and Magog existed before.   Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 39:1), is the name of the leader and Magog is the name of his nation (Ezekiel 38 and 39).  The Gog and Magog army had already been defeated and the Noble Quran confirms their story.   There had been historical discoveries that perfectly match the Noble Quran's claims regarding the Gog and Magog, such as the discovery of the "Iron Gates", and other literature that mentions the Gog and Magog army and location.   There is even historical documentation about them which matches the Noble Quran in London, England.

    Please visit The story of Gog and Magog and the Iron Gates in the Noble Quran and the Bible to see the references and proofs of these historical discoveries and several more.

    The Bible says: The earth is flat!  See all the verses in the Bible that claim the earth is flat.

    It is a common Christian answer to say "We support Israel because it is God's promised land to the Jews, and He will prevail them against the army of Gog and Magog who seems to be mainly an Islamic army today."  They mostly rely on the Book of Revelation from the Bible to support this claim.

    The story of the Gog and Magog army attacking the Jews exists in both the Book of Ezekiel and the Book of Revelation in the Bible.  The Book of Ezekiel which came literally thousands of years before the Book of Revelation predicted the attack and defeat of the army of Gog and Magog.

    The Noble Quran (The Muslims' Holy Scripture) talks about the army of Gog and Magog in details and explains the events that ALREADY took place.  As I mentioned above, there had been historical discoveries that perfectly match the Noble Quran's claims regarding the Gog and Magog, such as the discovery of the "Iron Gates", and other literature that mentions the Gog and Magog army and location.

    Please visit The army of Gog and Magog and the Iron Gates in the Noble Quran and the Bible.

    The lie (sorry to say that) of the Book of Revelation, however, also predicts the coming of the army of Gog and Magog.  But as I said, the army of Gog and Magog were ALREADY predicted in the Bible thousands of years before the Book of Revelation.

    So, the prediction in the Book of Revelation proves that the writer of the book, lacked a great deal of knowledge about history, because as I said, the event of the Gog and Magog battle (i.e., the battle of Armageddon) already happened!

    The point is that the Book of Revelation, however, like most of the Bible today seems to be nothing but a big hoax (sorry to say that).  It is very doubtful, but yet ironically, very important to the Christians of today.

    Would you honestly deep inside yourself call nonsense of this kind the True Living Words of GOD Almighty, especially after knowing that very important early Christian resources thought "the book could not been written by the apostle of John"?

    Please visit What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?

      

    An Important article that refutes the lie of trinity regarding the "Alpha and Omega":

    Please visit: Arche of the Creation of God as Alpha and Omega.  If their site is down, then you can read the article at this link ON MY SITE.

      

      

      

      

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    ***** The Hijacked Bible [1]

    In Matthew 24:36, Jesus Christ denied having any knowledge of when Judgment Day will come.
      
  • He said: I don't know; only GOD Alone Knows!
  • The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek".
  • Who is Jesus according to Islam?
  • What is Islam?
  • Why is Jesus called "Al-Masih" according to Islam?
  • Jesus Christ said that Heaven has many Mansions, and that his Mansion is for him and his followers Does the Quran support that Heaven has Believers from a variety of Faiths and Creeds?

    Will Judas or Matthias sit at the Throne? Is Gambling allowed in Christianity? Why were the disciples disputing on the 12th disciple if the Holy Spirit was the One who chose him?


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