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This article is a refutation to the lie about Islam allowing sex with animals, and it contains words, pictures and videos that could be classified as pornographic.  Viewer's discretion is advised!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irrefutable proofs that between her "shiaab (shiaabuha) --OR-- shuab (shuabuha)" means between her two ARMS and two LEGS:

The sections of this article are:

1-  Christian_Prince's claims.
2-  My response.
     (a)- Shuaabuha
     (b)- Between.

            i-  Pictures of animal-sex.
            ii- Pictures of human-sex.  When he is between her "four shuab".

     (c)- Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad) commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!

3-  Conclusion.

 

 

1-  Christian_Prince's claims:

This article is a rebuttal to christian_prince's article that is located at: http://www.investigateislam.com/ebooks1.htm.

 

He wrote:  (some emphasis below are mine)

Mohmad teaching Muslims how to have sex with animals and dead animals , women young girls , boys and all what Mohmad do care about is how to wash before you go to pray after a man have sex with or woman with dead animal

 

this is the hadith as its from SAUDIA ARABIA GOV ISLAMIC SITE in Arabic

http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&ID=75883&SearchText=جهدها&SearchType=exact&Scope=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8&Offset=0&SearchLevel=Allword

the hadith translation to English

 

: Commentary of Imam Al-Nawawi on the Hadith

The saying of the prophet – peace be upon him- ‘When he site  between a her fours legs!) mostly its home animal (shu’biha Al-arba) and  intercourse her then fatigues her’

 

Two notes from me, Osama Abdallah:

1-  pulsar.gif (2171 bytes) Christian_prince, the liar, inserted "mostly its home animal" on his own!  This text is not part of the Arabic Hadith of the Prophet!

2-  "her four legs" is not the correct translation as I clearly demonstrated in my response section.

 

 In another narration the word ‘Ashu’biha’ is used. The scholars have disagreed about the intended meaning of ‘shu’biha Al-arba’ (the fours) for some said that it means the arms and the legs, while others have said that it refers to the legs and thighs, and other said it means the legs and the edge of the pubic area. Al-Qadi Ayad chose the meaning of the four areas surrounding the vagina. The word (Shu’b) means areas, its singular form being (Shu’bah). As for those who say (Ashba’iha) that is the plural of the word (Shu’b).

The word Aj-hada-ha (fatigue her) means to plow her, which was also stated by Al-Khatabi. Others have said it means to make her reach exhaustion as in the phrase ‘she made him toil and labor till he was exhausted’. Al-Qadi Ayad – may Allah rest his soul- said ‘Primarily, the word (Jahada’ha) means that the man exerted his effort working in a woman, where the word (Juh’d) means energy and refers to motion by describing the type of work. This is similar to his (the prophet) saying ‘he who plowed her’ meaning he who penetrated her by his motion. Otherwise, what other fatigue could a man experience because of her, and Allah knows best.

 The meaning of the hadith is that the necessity to wash is not limited to when semen is ejaculated, rater it is when the penile head (Hash-fa, lit. “the head of the male member,” i.e. head of the penis) penetrates the vagina, then it is necessary for the man and the woman to wash. There is no disagreement on this today, even though there was disagreement on this by some of the early companions and others later. However, an agreement was later reached and this is what we have shown and presented previously.

 Our companions have said that if the penile head has penetrated A WOMAN’S ANUS, or A MAN’S ANUS, or AN ANIMAL’S VAGINA or ITS ANUS then it is necessary to wash whether the one being penetrated is alive OR DEAD, YOUNG OR OLD, whether it was done intentionally or absentmindedly, whether it was done willfully or forcefully. This also applies if the woman places the male member inside her while the man is asleep, whether the penis is erect or not, whether the penis is circumcised or uncircumcised. All these situations require that the person committing the act and the one the act is committed on must wash themselves, unless the person committing the act or the person the act is committed on is a young male or female. In that case it cannot be said that the person must wash, for they do not have the responsibility, rather it is said that this person is in a state of impurity. If that person can discern (the sexual act) then his guardian can command him to wash just as he commands him to perform the ablution washing for prayers. For if he prays without washing, his prayer has not been performed correctly; likewise if he doesn’t wash after he reaches puberty he must be forced to wash. If he washed as a youth and then reaches puberty, then he does not have to repeat the washing.

 Our companions have said that intercourse occurs when a healthy male’s penile head completely penetrates (an orifice), as has been unanimously agreed. Thus, when the penile head has completely disappeared (inside the orifice), then all the regulations concerning washing apply. It is unanimously agreed that it is not necessary that the entire penile shaft penetrate to apply the regulations of washing. If part of the penile head penetrates, then the regulations of washing are not imposed as is agreed, except by an odd few of our companions who said that even in this case all the regulations of washing apply. However, this opinion is wrong, rejected and abandoned.  If the male member was severed and what remained was less than the length of the penile head, then none of the washing regulations apply. If the part remaining was equal in length to the penile head length then that part must completely penetrate for the regulation of washing to apply. If the part remaining was greater in length to the penile head length then there are two famous opinions for our companions. The most correct is that if the portion that penetrates is equal to the length of the penile head, then the regulations for washing apply. The other opinion is that none of the regulations for washing apply until the entire remaining length of the penile shaft completely penetrates and Allah knows best.

 If a man wraps a sheath around his male member and then ejaculates inside a woman’s vagina, then there are three opinions from our companions. The most famous is that the man must wash. The second is that he does not have to wash because he ejaculated inside the sheath. The third is that if the sheath is thick and prevents climax and wetness (in the vagina) then washing is not necessary, otherwise it is necessary and Allah knows best.

 

If a woman inserts (in her vagina) AN ANIMAL’S PENIS she must wash, and if she inserts A DETACHED PENIS (thakaran maktu-an, lit. “a severed male member”; a marital aid perhaps!?) there are two opinions; the most correct is that she must wash.


 


 

‏ ‏و حدثني ‏ ‏زهير بن حرب ‏ ‏وأبو غسان المسمعي ‏ ‏ح ‏ ‏و حدثناه ‏ ‏محمد بن المثنى ‏ ‏وابن بشار ‏ ‏قالوا حدثنا ‏ ‏معاذ بن هشام ‏ ‏قال حدثني ‏ ‏أبي ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏قتادة ‏ ‏ومطر ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏الحسن ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي رافع ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي هريرة ‏
‏أن نبي الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏
‏إذا جلس بين ‏ ‏شعبها ‏ ‏الأربع ثم جهدها فقد وجب عليه الغسل
‏وفي حديث ‏ ‏مطر ‏ ‏وإن لم ينزل ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏زهير ‏ ‏من بينهم بين ‏ ‏أشعبها ‏ ‏الأربع ‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏محمد بن عمرو بن عباد بن جبلة ‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏محمد بن أبي عدي ‏ ‏ح ‏ ‏و حدثنا ‏ ‏محمد بن المثنى ‏ ‏حدثني ‏ ‏وهب بن جرير ‏ ‏كلاهما ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏شعبة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏قتادة ‏ ‏بهذا الإسناد ‏ ‏مثله غير أن في حديث ‏ ‏شعبة ‏ ‏ثم اجتهد ولم يقل وإن لم ينزل ‏
 
 

صحيح مسلم بشرح النووي


‏قوله : ( أبو غسان المسمعي ) ‏
‏هو بفتح الغين المعجمة وتشديد السين المهملة , ويجوز صرفه وترك صرفه . والمسمعي بكسر الميم الأولى وفتح الثاني , واسمه مالك بن عبد الواحد , وقد تقدم بيانه مرات , لكني أنبه عليه وعلى مثله لطول العهد به , كما شرطته في الخطبة . ‏

‏قوله : ( أبو رافع عن أبي هريرة ) ‏
‏اسم أبي رافع : ( نفيع ) وقد تقدم أيضا . ‏
‏قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( إذا قعد بين شعبها الأربع ثم جهدها ) ‏
‏وفي رواية ( أشعبها ) اختلف العلماء في المراد بالشعب الأربع , فقيل : هي اليدان والرجلان , وقيل : الرجلان والفخذان , وقيل : الرجلان والشفران , واختار القاضي عياض أن المراد شعب الفرج الأربع , والشعب النواحي واحدتها شعبة , وأما من قال : ( أشعبها ) , فهو جمع شعب . ومعنى ( جهدها ) حفرها كذا قاله الخطابي وقال غيره : بلغ مشقتها , يقال : جهدته وأجهدته بلغت مشقته , قال القاضي عياض رحمه الله تعالى : الأولى أن يكون جهدها بمعنى بلغ جهده في العمل فيها , والجهد الطاقة , وهو إشارة إلى الحركة وتمكن صورة العمل , وهو نحو قوله من حفرها أي كدها بحركته . وإلا فأي مشقة بلغ بها في ذلك . والله أعلم . ومعنى الحديث أن إيجاب الغسل لا يتوقف على نزول المني بل متى غابت الحشفة في الفرج وجب الغسل على الرجل والمرأة , وهذا لا خلاف فيه اليوم , وقد كان فيه خلاف لبعض الصحابة ومن بعدهم , ثم انعقد الإجماع على ما ذكرناه , وقد تقدم بيان هذا . قال أصحابنا : ولو غيب الحشفة في دبر امرأة , أو دبر رجل , أو فرج بهيمة , أو دبرها , وجب الغسل سواء كان المولج فيه حيا أو ميتا , صغيرا أو كبيرا , وسواء كان ذلك عن قصد أم عن نسيان , وسواء كان مختارا أو مكرها , أو استدخلت المرأة ذكره وهو نائم , وسواء انتشر الذكر أم لا , وسواء كان مختونا أم أغلف , فيجب الغسل في كل هذه الصور على الفاعل والمفعول به إلا إذا كان الفاعل أو المفعول به صبيا أو صبية فإنه لا يقال وجب عليه لأنه ليس مكلفا , ولكن يقال صار جنبا فإن كان مميزا وجب على الولي أن يأمره بالغسل كما يأمره بالوضوء , فإن صلى من غير غسل لم تصح صلاته , وإن لم يغتسل حتى بلغ وجب عليه الغسل , وإن اغتسل في الصبى ثم بلغ لم يلزمه إعادة الغسل . قال أصحابنا : والاعتبار في الجماع بتغييب الحشفة من صحيح الذكر بالاتفاق , فإذا غيبها بكمالها تعلقت به جميع الأحكام , ولا يشترط تغييب جميع الذكر بالاتفاق . ولو غيب بعض الحشفة لا يتعلق به شيء من الأحكام بالاتفاق إلا وجها شاذا ذكره بعض أصحابنا أن حكمه حكم جميعها , وهذا الوجه غلط منكر متروك , وأما إذا كان الذكر مقطوعا فإن بقي منه دون الحشفة لم يتعلق به شيء من الأحكام , وإن كان الباقي قدر الحشفة فحسب تعلقت الأحكام بتغييبه بكماله , وإن كان زائدا على قدر الحشفة ففيه وجهان مشهوران لأصحابنا أصحهما أن الأحكام تتعلق بقدر الحشفة منه , والثاني لا يتعلق شيء من الأحكام إلا بتغييب جميع الباقي . والله أعلم . ‏
‏ولو لف على ذكره خرقة وأولجه في فرج امرأة ففيه ثلاثة أوجه لأصحابنا منها والمشهور أنه يجب عليهما الغسل , والثاني لا يجب لأنه أولج في خرقة , والثالث إن كانت الخرقة غليظة تمنع وصول اللذة والرطوبة لم يجب الغسل . وإلا وجب . والله أعلم . ‏
ولو استدخلت المرأة ذكر بهيمة وجب عليها الغسل , ولو استدخلت ذكرا مقطوعا فوجهان أصحهما يجب عليها الغسل . ‏
 

 

 

2-  My response:

The sub-sections here are:

(a)- Shuabuha
(b)- Between.

        i-  Pictures of animal-sex.
        ii- Pictures of human-sex.  When he is between her "four shuab".

(c)- Hadiths commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!

 

First let us isolate Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Saying from the commentary and interpretation of Imam Al-Nawawi.  The following is what the Prophet said:

 إذا جلس بين ‏ ‏شعبها ‏ ‏الأربع ثم جهدها فقد وجب عليه الغسل

(If he sits BETWEEN her FOUR shuabuha and he ejaculated semen (cum), then he must wash)

There are two important key words in this Hadith, and there are Hadiths that command the killing of those caught having sex with animals that further refute christian_prince's lie:

(a)-  Shuabuha

(b)-  Between.

(c)-  pulsar.gif (2171 bytes) Hadiths commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

 

Update from brothers Sami Zaatari and Umar:

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said the following:

Narrated Abu Huraira: "The Prophet said, "When a man sits in between the four parts of a woman and did the sexual intercourse with her, bath becomes compulsory."  (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 290)"

This Hadith clearly proves that the Prophet's statement above is clearly limited to women and women only.
 

 

(a)-  Shuaabuha:

Christian_prince is correct about the notion-word shuaabuha meaning "legs" in Arabic as in the legs of the tent (shuabu al-khayma).  But that's not the only translation to the notion.  The word can also mean pillars, straight standings, standings, straight sticks, etc...  It is a notion that has vast meanings such as "straight ones", "pillars", "sticks" and so on.  It is clear from the context of the Hadith that the Holy Prophet meant when the man is between the women's "four shuab", since the word "between" is the key word since only humans go "between" the shuab, where animals don't as clearly seen below.

Also, the literal word for leg is saaq.  Siqaan is the plural of leg that is 3 or more.  Saaqaan means two legs.

Let us now look at "between" in more details:

 

(b)-  Between:

The sub-sections here are:

(i)-  Pictures of animal-sex.

(ii)- Pictures of human-sex.  When he is between her "four shuab".

 

 

(i)-  Pictures of animal-sex:

Notice the Hadith once again:

 إذا جلس بين ‏ ‏شعبها ‏ ‏الأربع ثم جهدها فقد وجب عليه الغسل

(If he sits BETWEEN her FOUR shuabuha and he ejaculated semen (cum), then he must wash)


Since "her four shuabuha" doesn't specifically refer to a human-female, then Christian_prince along with few IGNORANT early scholars who didn't know all of the Noble Verses of the Noble Quran nor all of the Hadiths (sayings) of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, thought that this Hadith does indeed allow sex with animals!

In fact, in last line of the Al-Nawawi's interpretation, he clearly declared the following:

ولو استدخلت المرأة ذكر بهيمة وجب عليها الغسل , ولو استدخلت ذكرا مقطوعا فوجهان أصحهما يجب عليها الغسل . ‏

(And if a woman enters a male-member (penis) of an animal, then she must wash.  And if she inserted in her (vagina) a detached penis, then there are two opinions, the more truthful one is that she must wash)


However, it is important to know that sex with animals is always done in what we call today "doggy style", which is sex from the back.  So the physical positioning to be between the FOUR pillars or legs when having sex with it is virtually impossible!  Neither it is physically possible, nor would the animal allow it.  Let us look at the following videos and pictures of how animals have sex.

The following videos contains scenes of different types of animals having sex: four-legged, two-legged birds, reptiles, sea-mammals, and insects all having sex from the back.

1-  Animals having sex (1).

2-  Animals having sex (2).

  

                           

 

 

(ii)-  Pictures of human-sex:

When he is between her "four shuab":

I picked the absolute least pornographic pictures.  Notice when the man is between the woman's arms and legs, and/or when the woman wraps her arms and legs around him:


     

 

You get the picture of while they're having sex in bed!

 

 

(c)-  Hadiths commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!


From http://www.answering-christianity.com/lesbian_rebuttal.htm#bestiality:

He wrote:  (here comes the hilarious part:...........His "challenge")

CHALLENGE TO OSAMA

Osama, please produce an explicit, unambiguous command (or commands) from the Quran, not from any other source, which condemns lesbianism and bestiality. We know you cannot, since the Quran does not provide such a statement, proving that it is an incomplete guidance for mankind.

  

My response:

As I present the evidence from the Glorious Quran, keep in mind the following Noble Verse.  Allah Almighty Commanded us to follow what He Commanded Moses, peace be upon him, to do:

Noble Verse(s) 42:13
Yusuf Ali:

[042:013]  The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than God, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).

Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2]):

42:13 شرع لكم من الدين ماوصى به نوحا والذي اوحينا اليك وما وصينا به ابراهيم وموسى وعيسى ان اقيموا الدين ولاتتفرقوا فيه كبر على المشركين ماتدعوهم اليه الله يجتبي اليه من يشاء ويهدي اليه من ينيب

So Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslims to look to the Religion of Moses and the other mentioned Prophets for remaining "steadfast in religion".  And as we will see below, the Religion of Moses, peace be upon him, does prohibit bestiality.  Not only that, but Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslims to ask the people of the Thikr of Moses (the Law of Moses) if we are unsure about something.  Now, unless the Moral Code had been abrogated in the Glorious Quran, such as permission to eat camel meat, which is forbidden in the Torah and allowed in the Quran, then we must seek the broader Law of GOD Almighty if we're unsure in Islam about any Moral issue.

  

Now to my response...

I have provided ample evidence and Noble Verses from the Noble Quran that totally demolished your absurdities regarding Islam allowing lesbianism [1] [2] (the links are displayed on separate windows).

Now in regards to bestiality (having sex with an animal), that has got to be the most absurd question one can bring up against Islam! 

 

Listen to my AUDIO rebuttal to his friend, "Christian_Prince" regarding this subject.

 


 

My Responses to this subject will consist of two types:

1-  Using the previous Mosaic Law.

2-  Using the Noble Quran and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad).

3-  Using the Noble Quran only.

 

 

1-  Using the previous Mosaic Law:

Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran Commanded the Muslims to ask the people of "Thikr (of Moses)" (Law of Moses) if they "knew not":

"And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation -- so ask the followers of the Reminder (Thikr) if you do not know (The Noble Quran, 16:43)"

So, if I walk up to a Jew or Christian and ask them what does your Law say about bestiality, then their answer would be that it is a sin that is punishable by death: Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 18:23, Leviticus 20:15-16, Deuteronomy 27:21.

So therefore, according to Islam bestiality is a Moral sin.  Now, whether it should be punishable by death or not, that could not be determined from the Bible alone, because we are not Jews.  This would have to be determined by Islamic Law (see below).  But the Morality Law still stands as all Morality Laws still stand unless customized or modified in Islam.  For example, the Laws of treating captives, and spoils of wars.  Another example is the Christians' New Testament did alter the Law of Divorce to make it only allowed in cases of "marital unfaithfulness" (Matthew 19:1-12) for the Christians.

  

  

2-  Using the Noble Quran and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad).

Here is the first response from the Noble Quran Itself:

From www.answering-christianity.com/que10.htm:

In Islam, we follow the laws of the Noble Quran, and the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.  If a situation or case is not addressed in neither the Noble Quran, or the Sayings of our beloved Prophet, then we follow the local verdicts of our Religious Authorities, where they would decide based upon the cultural and social situation and causes.  Also, according to Noble Verse 21:7, we can also consult with the people of the Thikr of Moses to ask them about what their Law (Thikr) Says about the issue, which in this case, they would tell us that according to Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 18:23 and several other verses, bestiality is forbidden, and Prophet Lut (Lot) in Noble Verses 7:80-82, 27:54-56, as shown below, was simply following the Mosaic Law.

As to following the Hadiths of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran:

"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.  (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"

"When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.  (The Noble Quran, 4:83)"

Now since Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran clearly Commanded us to follow what the Prophet, peace be upon him, tells us, then let us look at what the Prophet said in regards to sex with animals:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him. I (Ikrimah) said: I asked him (Ibn Abbas): What offence can be attributed to the animal? He replied: I think he (the Prophet) disapproved of its flesh being eaten when such a thing had been done to it.  (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Number 4449)The Hadith can be retrieved here.

Abu Hurairah reported Allah's Messenger (Pbuh) said: "Four types of people awake under Allah's anger and go to bed under Allah's displeasure." Those who were listening asked: "Who are they, Messenger of Allah?" He replied: Men who imitate women, women who imitate men, those who have sex with animals, and men who have sex with men."  (http://www.islamawareness.net/Homosexuality/iv.html)

To the reader, please visit: Ample Islamic References about sex with animals being forbidden!  A total of 28 Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad), and the list is growing, commanding the killing of those who commit sex with animals!

 

So there you have it!

 

Using the Noble Quran, I was able to debunk your absurd points.  Checkmate!

 

 

3-  Using the Noble Quran only:

Now as to using the Noble Quran only, as the polytheist trinitarian pagan requested above, and nothing else to prove that bestiality is forbidden in Islam, while this is clearly an absurd and ridiculous request at best based on Noble Verses 4:59 and 4:83 above that clearly Command us to follow the Prophet's Commands, but the following Noble Verses among the many others below clearly refute his bestiality charge:

Noble Verse(s) 7:33
Yusuf Ali:

[007:033]  Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.

Arabic (from right to left):

7:33 قل انما حرم ربي الفواحش ماظهر منها ومابطن والاثم والبغي بغير الحق وان تشركوا بالله مالم ينزل به سلطانا وان تقولوا على الله مالاتعلمون

 

Noble Verse(s) 7:80-7:82
Yusuf Ali:

[007:080]  We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?

[007:081]  "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."

[007:082]  And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"

Arabic (from right to left):

7:80 ولوطا اذ قال لقومه اتاتون الفاحشة ماسبقكم بها من احد من العالمين

7:81 انكم لتاتون الرجال شهوة من دون النساء بل انتم قوم مسرفون

7:82 وماكان جواب قومه الا ان قالوا اخرجوهم من قريتكم انهم اناس يتطهرون

 

Noble Verse(s) 27:54-27:56
Yusuf Ali:

[027:054]  (We also sent) Lut (as an apostle): behold, He said to his people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)?

[027:055]  Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!

[027:056]  But his people gave no other answer but this: they said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"

Arabic (from right to left):

27:54 ولوطا اذ قال لقومه اتاتون الفاحشة وانتم تبصرون

27:55 ائنكم لتاتون الرجال شهوة من دون النساء بل انتم قوم تجهلون

27:56 فما كان جواب قومه الا ان قالوا اخرجوا ال لوط من قريتكم انهم اناس يتطهرون

Where is sex with animals allowed in these Holy Verses?  We see a very clear condemnation to homosexuality and a very clear cut definition for what sexual relationships should be with: Men with their legal women only, and Women with their legal men only!  No mention of any animal what so ever!

Also, please remember that according to Noble Verse 21:7, we can ask the people of the Mosaic Law if we know not.  So if we simply ask them what their Law Says about bestiality, then they'll tell us that according to Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 18:23 and several other verses, bestiality is forbidden, and Prophet Lut (Lot) in Noble Verses 7:80-82, 27:54-56 was simply following the Mosaic Law.

Anyway, despite that we are commanded to follow Prophet Muhammad's commands in the Noble Quran which basically ends this section's refutation, but I will further refute this missionary in three sets of responses that will wash away his laughable points:

 

1-  Who are Muslims really allowed to have sex with?

2-  Using your 'common sense' Noble Verses.

3-  Deliberately twisting and perverting Allah Almighty's Holy Words is a grave sin!

  • How is having sex with animals supposed to protect the Purity that Allah Almighty Spoke about?

  • If I am not even allowed to have sex with another man, then how can GOD Almighty allow me to have sex with an animal?

  • If men and women who are guilty of fornication are supposed to get flogged 100 stripes each, then how is Islam exactly supposed to be allowing sex with animals?
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    1-  Who are Muslims really allowed to have sex with?

    Aside from Noble Verses 7:33, 7:80-82, 27:54-56 above that clearly demonstrate that men can only have sexual relationships with their legal women, and women can only have have sexual relationships with their legal men, but let us further look at what Allah Almighty Said:

    "Go you in unto the males of the Alameen (mankind), And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your wives (or lawful mates such as harems)? Nay, you are a trespassing people!  (The Noble Quran, 26:165-166)"

    Notice the following:

    1- "...of the Alameen...."  The following Noble Verses prove that "alameen" means mankind in the Noble Quran:

    "We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no alameen ever committed before you?  (The Noble Quran, 7:80)"

    In this Noble Verse, Prophet Lot or Lut, peace be upon him, is talking about sexual sinning and is comparing his people to all of the people before them.

    "Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations (alameen).  (The Noble Quran, 3:42)"

    Here Allah Almighty made Mary, peace be upon her, to be the best woman ever created.

     

    2-  "And leave those whom God has created for you to be your mates?"  Who are those mates?  It's the human-females!  Not the males; not animals.  Females!

    To further prove my points regarding the "mates", here is how Allah Almighty defines it in the Noble Quran:

    "And God has made for you mates (and companions) of your own nature, and made for you, out of them, sons and daughters and grandchildren, and provided for you sustenance of the best: will they then believe in vain things, and be ungrateful for God's favours?-  (The Noble Quran, 16:72)"

    "And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.  (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

    The fact that Noble Verses 26:165-166 are saying that the people of Lut are evil transgressors for not having relationships of marriages and lawful sex with the specific mates of human-females that GOD Almighty Created for them clearly prove:

    1-  The human-female mates in Noble Verses 16:72 and 30:21 are the only lawful mates in Islam for the males of mankind, and the human-male mates are the only lawful mates for the females of mankind.

    2-  Islam doesn't allow sex with animals.


    Also, Allah allowed certain animals and forbade others:

    "Such: whoever honours the sacred rites of God, for him it is good in the Sight of his Lord. Lawful to you are cattle, except those mentioned to you: but shun the abomination of idols, and shun the word that is false,-  (The Noble Quran, 22:30)"

    "He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of God. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For God is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 2:173)"

    While these Noble Verses are talking about what's lawful and what's unlawful from meat to eat upon the Muslims, but the word "food" itself was never mentioned in any of these Noble Verses. 

    Now assuming that sex with animals is allowed in the Noble Quran, then does this mean that I can have sex with a cow, since it is a cattle, but not with a pig (swine)?!

    Let's ask the weasel:

     

    Am I allowed to have sex with a pig in Islam Sam Shamoun?

     

    Obviously not, and with neither animal or any animal.  I believe that the reader clearly sees how much of a joke Sam Shamoun and his laughable arguments really are.

    Now in regards to sex and who are Muslims are allowed to have sex with, Islam is quite clear about this issue.  Women are only allowed to have sex with their husbands, and men are only allowed to have sex with their wives and any female from their "Right Hand Possess" or Captives.

    I provided the ample proofs for this at:  http://www.answering-christianity.com/no_sex_with_male_slaves.htm

     

     

    2-  Using your 'common sense' Noble Verses:

    "We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?  (The Noble Quran, 7:80)"

    "(We also sent) Lut (as an apostle): behold, He said to his people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)(The Noble Quran, 27:54)"

    "Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!  (The Noble Quran, 27:55)"

    "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: Ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.  (The Noble Quran, 7:81)"

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    In these Noble Verses, Allah Almighty is directly and clearly addressing the person's common sense that He, the Almighty, Created for him/her.  You should ask yourself regarding what you're about to do, in this case, having sex with your pet, is it really right?  Is this act really natural?  Is this what really Allah Almighty ordained for us?  According to the Noble Verses above, no it isn't.

    Is the person justifying an evil act even though he/she knows well that it is wrong as clearly mentioned in Noble Verses 27:54, 7:80 and 7:81 above?  That's really the main point.

    So now the question to Sam Shamoun is:

     

    Do you have common sense?

    Can you tell what's right from wrong??

     

    Unfortunately for you, your christians today act like they don't!   They commit adultery and fornication left and right, and they dress in ways that only promote evil and wickedness, and they still insist on following these evil ways of life, despite the fact that they know well that it is wrong!!

    In fact, Sam Shamoun's inspiration to write this article about lesbians in Islam came DIRECTLY from the christian homosexuals from his own people.  Otherwise I strongly doubt that he would have even thought about this point.

     

    The fact that Muslims are not like your people, PROVES the success of Islam's Divine Teachings!

     

     

    3-  Deliberately twisting and perverting Allah Almighty's Holy Words is a grave sin!

    Here is another Response by Allah Almighty to your porn and evil-promoting point:

    "He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it. None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed. Our Lord! Cause not our hearts to stray after Thou hast guided us, and bestow upon us mercy from Thy Presence. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Bestower. Our Lord! Lo! it is Thou Who gatherest mankind together to a Day of which there is no doubt. Lo! Allah faileth not to keep the tryst. (On that Day) neither the riches nor the progeny of those who disbelieve will aught avail them with Allah. They will be fuel for Fire. Like Pharaoh's folk and those who were before them, they disbelieved Our revelations and so Allah seized them for their sins. And Allah is severe in punishment. Say (O Muhammad) unto those who disbelieve: Ye shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell, an evil resting-place.   (The Noble Quran, 3:7-12)"


    Indeed, "But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it."

    And yes indeed, "but only men of understanding really heed."  If Allah Almighty punishes the fornicators with their fellow human fornicators by having them get flogged 100 stripes each, and if Allah Almighty is very strict on Chastity and Modesty in the Islamic society, then how on earth would such a society allow for sex with animals to be tolerated?

     

    How exactly is sex with animals supposed to protect Purity in the Islamic Society?

     

    The topic itself is so ridiculous that it wasn't even mentioned directly in the Noble Quran.  But those who try to pervert the Divine Message of Allah Almighty had been addressed and warned in Noble Verses 3:7-12 as shown above.

    If I am not even allowed to have illegal sex with a fellow human being, then how on earth am I supposed to be allowed to have sex with an animal?  And again, how exactly is sex with animals supposed to enforce the Chastity and Purity of the Muslim society that Allah Almighty clearly Commanded?

    To those who might grow their brains in their butts and try to get creative like Sam Shamoun here is doing, I'd like to give them the following Noble Verses that clearly warn them about their Salvation in the Noble Quran:

    "Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in God. If only the People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians) had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 3:110)"

    "Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.  (The Noble Quran, 3:104)"

    "They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.  (The Noble Quran, 3:114)"

     

    These Noble Verses alone prohibit all evil that humans do!

     

    "Thenceforth were your hearts hardened: They became like a rock and even worse in hardness. For among rocks there are some from which rivers gush forth; others there are which when split asunder send forth water; and others which sink for fear of God. And God is not unmindful of what ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 2:74)"

    ".....But fear God and know that God sees well what ye do.   (The Noble Quran, 2:233)"

    "....And fear God: That ye may prosper.  (The Noble Quran, 2:189)"

    "....And fear God, and know that God Is strict in punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 2:196)"

    "....Then fear God, and know that ye will surely be gathered unto Him.  (The Noble Quran, 2:203)"

    "When it is said to him, "Fear God", He is led by arrogance to (more) sins. Enough for him is Hell;-An evil bed indeed (To lie on)!  (The Noble Quran, 2:206)"

    "....and fear God. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.  (The Noble Quran, 2:223)"

    "And fear the Day when ye shall be brought back to God. Then shall every soul be paid what it earned, and none shall be dealt with unjustly.  (The Noble Quran, 2:281)"

      

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    Note to Muslims:

    As Muslims, we must be very careful when we comment on the previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to.  I know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their own Scriptures with their "End of Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their bigotry, hate and lies, - but still dear brothers and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous Scriptures, because as Muslims we do believe that they do contain remnants of Divine Revelations in them.  May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere Muslims, for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into.  Ameen.

    See also:  The Islamic Prophecies section.

      

      

    Zionist Israel will rule the earth with Mighty Evil!  (Islamic Prophecy)

    The Glorious Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power.  They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8:

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm

  • Also, Israel will be annihilated by people of non-Muslims and Muslims according to the Glorious Quran's Prophecy.
      

  • What does the Glorious Quran say about the Jews' mighty success and dominance in wealth, science, media and politics?  "a rope from Allah and a rope from people" extended to them to enable the reaching of the Mighty Heights.
      

  • The Jews' financial domination and the Stock Market  (control of the earth's wealth) are STUNNINGLY prophesied in the Glorious Quran!

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5943.html#msg5943     (backup)

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5950.html#msg5950     (backup)

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

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    Also, Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, made a stunning prophecy about the one-eyed anti-Christ who will rule the infidels and the world:

    Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

    Prophet Muhammad had many visions about the dajjal, and gave many signs about him.  Some of the things the Prophet said about the dajjal were literal, and some were vision-metaphors.  The most prominent one is that he will be one-eyed.  This is both literal and metaphoric.  It is literal today because the zionist anti-Christ system is indeed represented by the ONE-EYE symbol as seen in the following images.  The metaphors here are Allah Almighty not being ONE-EYED, because nothing can describe Allah Almighty.  There is "none like unto Him" (Quran, 112:4).  In other words also, the Prophet warned that this ONE-EYED SATANIC system will be a worshiped deity.  And that false deity is not Allah Almighty.  For ample more details and proofs, please visit link below.

    Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?  I demonstrated using ample Biblical verses that the ONE-EYED DAJJAL (anti-Christ) was never prophesied in the Bible to be ONE-EYED, nor was this Sign ever given in the Bible to any being.

  • I also showed how Jesus Christ, from among many other verses, used this "right eye" expression.  So it was never a Sign about the dajjal before Islam.  It was no more than a general language of the Bible.
      
  • The Bible in many verses uses "right hand" and "right eye" expressions for people and for GOD Almighty.
      
  • None of these are Signs to anything.
  • For ample Noble Verses and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet), and proofs, please visit:

  • The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
      

  • Also visit: 9/11 was 100% an Israeli Mossad Operation!

  • Many references of this Hadith (Saying) exist throughout our Islamic Texts.  This is one of the most popular Hadiths and Prophecies of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  And indeed, we are seeing it come to pass before our very eyes.  Please also visit:

  • The hijacked Bible.
      

  • Listen also to Jeremiah 18:1-10!
      

  • The 666 symbol is actually referring to today's neo-con Christianity and Zionism!  See the clear-cut proofs and images here.
      

  • Also see the sub-section: The Israeli 666 symbol.
      

  • Does the Bible predict the dividing of Israel?  Who are the nations that divided Israel?  And what will be their punishment?
      

  • The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
      

  • Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?
      

  • Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) on some of Islam's STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:


      
      

  • The following debate thoroughly demonstrates that ISIS is not Islamic, and that it was made by the zionists to pave the way for the "Another 9/11":



    IS ISIS ISLAMIC?
    Osama Abdallah vs David Wood Debate
    Saturday 12/06/2014

    The Debate PowerPoints contain the written material for my presentation and rebuttals.

      

  • Also visit this website's Youtube Channel at: www.youtube.com/QuranSearchCom.

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    3-  Conclusion:

    Islam does not allow sex with animals.  The Hadith that christian_prince cited does not allow sex with animals, and it was very badly misinterpreted by one ignorant with few of his followers who consider themselves Islamic scholars.  Not only that, but Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, commanded the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!

    Also, as I have thoroughly demonstrated above, shuabuha doesn't literally just only mean "legs" or "arms and legs".  It is a notion that has vast meanings such as "straight ones", "pillars", "sticks" and so on.  It is clear from the context of the Hadith that the Holy Prophet meant when the man is between the women's "four shuab", since the word "between" is the key word since only humans go "between" the shuab, where animals don't.  And one more time, the Holy Prophet

     

    Commanded the KILLING of those who are caught having sex with animals!

     

    Also, as I mentioned above, the literal word for leg is "saaq" and two legs "saaqaan", and three or more legs "siqaan".  The Holy Prophet never mentioned any of these words in his Hadith.

    So checkmate to the foul-mouthed infidel (we've documented ample filth in AUDIO and TEXT from him) christian_prince and to his fabrication of quotes and lies, which he got exposed on above.

     

     

     

     

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    "Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.

    Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.

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