Warning!
This article is a refutation to the lie about Islam allowing sex with animals, and it contains words, pictures and videos that could be classified as pornographic. Viewer's discretion is advised!
Irrefutable proofs that between her "shiaab (shiaabuha) --OR-- shuab (shuabuha)" means between her two ARMS and two LEGS:
The sections of this article are:
1- Christian_Prince's claims.
2- My response.
(a)- Shuaabuha
(b)- Between.
i- Pictures of animal-sex.
ii- Pictures
of human-sex.
When he is between her "four shuab".
(c)- Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad) commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!
3- Conclusion.
1- Christian_Prince's claims:
This article is a rebuttal to christian_prince's article that is located at: http://www.investigateislam.com/ebooks1.htm.
He wrote: (some emphasis below are mine)
| Mohmad teaching Muslims how to have sex with
animals and dead animals , women young girls , boys and all what Mohmad
do care about is how to wash before you go to pray after a man have sex
with or woman with dead animal
this is the hadith as its from SAUDIA ARABIA GOV ISLAMIC SITE in Arabic the hadith translation to English
: Commentary of Imam Al-Nawawi on the Hadith The saying of the prophet – peace be upon him- ‘When he site between a her fours legs!) mostly its home animal (shu’biha Al-arba) and intercourse her then fatigues her’
In another narration the word ‘Ashu’biha’ is used. The scholars have disagreed about the intended meaning of ‘shu’biha Al-arba’ (the fours) for some said that it means the arms and the legs, while others have said that it refers to the legs and thighs, and other said it means the legs and the edge of the pubic area. Al-Qadi Ayad chose the meaning of the four areas surrounding the vagina. The word (Shu’b) means areas, its singular form being (Shu’bah). As for those who say (Ashba’iha) that is the plural of the word (Shu’b). The word Aj-hada-ha (fatigue her) means to plow her, which was also stated by Al-Khatabi. Others have said it means to make her reach exhaustion as in the phrase ‘she made him toil and labor till he was exhausted’. Al-Qadi Ayad – may Allah rest his soul- said ‘Primarily, the word (Jahada’ha) means that the man exerted his effort working in a woman, where the word (Juh’d) means energy and refers to motion by describing the type of work. This is similar to his (the prophet) saying ‘he who plowed her’ meaning he who penetrated her by his motion. Otherwise, what other fatigue could a man experience because of her, and Allah knows best. The meaning of the hadith is that the necessity to wash is not limited to when semen is ejaculated, rater it is when the penile head (Hash-fa, lit. “the head of the male member,” i.e. head of the penis) penetrates the vagina, then it is necessary for the man and the woman to wash. There is no disagreement on this today, even though there was disagreement on this by some of the early companions and others later. However, an agreement was later reached and this is what we have shown and presented previously. Our companions have said that if the penile head has penetrated A WOMAN’S ANUS, or A MAN’S ANUS, or AN ANIMAL’S VAGINA or ITS ANUS then it is necessary to wash whether the one being penetrated is alive OR DEAD, YOUNG OR OLD, whether it was done intentionally or absentmindedly, whether it was done willfully or forcefully. This also applies if the woman places the male member inside her while the man is asleep, whether the penis is erect or not, whether the penis is circumcised or uncircumcised. All these situations require that the person committing the act and the one the act is committed on must wash themselves, unless the person committing the act or the person the act is committed on is a young male or female. In that case it cannot be said that the person must wash, for they do not have the responsibility, rather it is said that this person is in a state of impurity. If that person can discern (the sexual act) then his guardian can command him to wash just as he commands him to perform the ablution washing for prayers. For if he prays without washing, his prayer has not been performed correctly; likewise if he doesn’t wash after he reaches puberty he must be forced to wash. If he washed as a youth and then reaches puberty, then he does not have to repeat the washing. Our companions have said that intercourse occurs when a healthy male’s penile head completely penetrates (an orifice), as has been unanimously agreed. Thus, when the penile head has completely disappeared (inside the orifice), then all the regulations concerning washing apply. It is unanimously agreed that it is not necessary that the entire penile shaft penetrate to apply the regulations of washing. If part of the penile head penetrates, then the regulations of washing are not imposed as is agreed, except by an odd few of our companions who said that even in this case all the regulations of washing apply. However, this opinion is wrong, rejected and abandoned. If the male member was severed and what remained was less than the length of the penile head, then none of the washing regulations apply. If the part remaining was equal in length to the penile head length then that part must completely penetrate for the regulation of washing to apply. If the part remaining was greater in length to the penile head length then there are two famous opinions for our companions. The most correct is that if the portion that penetrates is equal to the length of the penile head, then the regulations for washing apply. The other opinion is that none of the regulations for washing apply until the entire remaining length of the penile shaft completely penetrates and Allah knows best. If a man wraps a sheath around his male member and then ejaculates inside a woman’s vagina, then there are three opinions from our companions. The most famous is that the man must wash. The second is that he does not have to wash because he ejaculated inside the sheath. The third is that if the sheath is thick and prevents climax and wetness (in the vagina) then washing is not necessary, otherwise it is necessary and Allah knows best.
If a woman inserts (in her vagina) AN ANIMAL’S PENIS she must wash, and if she inserts A DETACHED PENIS (thakaran maktu-an, lit. “a severed male member”; a marital aid perhaps!?) there are two opinions; the most correct is that she must wash.
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2- My response:
The sub-sections here are:
(a)- Shuabuha
(b)- Between.
i-
Pictures of animal-sex.
ii- Pictures of human-sex.
When he is between her
"four shuab".
(c)- Hadiths commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!
First let us isolate Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Saying from the commentary and interpretation of Imam Al-Nawawi. The following is what the Prophet said:
إذا جلس بين شعبها الأربع ثم جهدها فقد وجب عليه الغسل
(If he sits BETWEEN her FOUR shuabuha and he ejaculated semen (cum), then he must wash)
There are two important key words in this Hadith, and there are Hadiths that command the killing of those caught having sex with animals that further refute christian_prince's lie:
(a)- Shuabuha
(b)- Between.
(c)-
Hadiths commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals! ![]()
| Update from
brothers
Sami Zaatari and Umar: Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said the following:
Narrated Abu Huraira: "The Prophet said, "When
a man sits in between the four parts of a woman and
did the sexual intercourse with her, bath becomes compulsory."
(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5,
Number 290)"
This Hadith clearly proves that the Prophet's statement above is
clearly limited to women and women only. |
(a)- Shuaabuha:
Christian_prince is correct about the notion-word shuaabuha meaning "legs" in Arabic as in the legs of the tent (shuabu al-khayma). But that's not the only translation to the notion. The word can also mean pillars, straight standings, standings, straight sticks, etc... It is a notion that has vast meanings such as "straight ones", "pillars", "sticks" and so on. It is clear from the context of the Hadith that the Holy Prophet meant when the man is between the women's "four shuab", since the word "between" is the key word since only humans go "between" the shuab, where animals don't as clearly seen below.
Also, the literal word for leg is saaq. Siqaan is the plural of leg that is 3 or more. Saaqaan means two legs.
Let us now look at "between" in more details:
(b)- Between:
The sub-sections here are:
(i)- Pictures of animal-sex.
(ii)- Pictures of human-sex. When he is between her "four shuab".
(i)- Pictures of animal-sex:
Notice the Hadith once again:
إذا جلس بين شعبها الأربع ثم جهدها فقد وجب عليه الغسل
(If he sits BETWEEN her FOUR shuabuha and he ejaculated semen (cum), then he must wash)
Since "her four shuabuha" doesn't specifically refer to a human-female, then Christian_prince along with few IGNORANT early scholars who didn't know all of the Noble
Verses of the Noble Quran nor all of the Hadiths (sayings) of Prophet Muhammad, peace be
upon him, thought that this Hadith does indeed allow sex with animals!
In fact, in last line of the Al-Nawawi's interpretation, he clearly declared the following:
ولو استدخلت المرأة ذكر بهيمة وجب عليها الغسل , ولو استدخلت ذكرا مقطوعا فوجهان أصحهما يجب عليها الغسل .
(And if a woman enters a male-member (penis) of an animal, then she must wash. And if she inserted in her (vagina) a detached penis, then there are two opinions, the more truthful one is that she must wash)
However, it is important to know that sex with animals is always done in what we call
today "doggy style", which is sex from the back. So the physical
positioning to be between the FOUR pillars or legs when having sex with it is virtually impossible! Neither it is physically possible, nor
would the animal allow it. Let us look at the following videos and
pictures of how animals have sex.
The following videos contains scenes of different types of animals having sex: four-legged, two-legged birds, reptiles, sea-mammals, and insects all having sex from the back.
(ii)- Pictures of human-sex:
When he is between her "four shuab":
I picked the absolute least pornographic pictures. Notice when the man is between the woman's arms and legs, and/or when the woman wraps her arms and legs around him:
You get the picture of while they're having sex in bed!
(c)- Hadiths commanding the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!
From http://www.answering-christianity.com/lesbian_rebuttal.htm#bestiality:
He wrote: (here comes the hilarious part...........his "challenge")
CHALLENGE TO OSAMA
Osama, please produce an explicit, unambiguous command (or commands) from the Quran, not from any other source, which condemns lesbianism and bestiality. We know you cannot, since the Quran does not provide such a statement, proving that it is an incomplete guidance for mankind.
My response:
I have provided ample evidence and Noble Verses from the Noble Quran that totally demolished your absurdities regarding Islam allowing lesbianism [1] [2] (the links are displayed on separate windows).
Now in regards to bestiality (having sex with an animal), that has got to be the most absurd question one can bring up against Islam!
Listen to my AUDIO rebuttal to his friend, "Christian_Prince" regarding this subject.
My Responses to this subject will consist of two types:
1- Using the Noble Quran and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad).
2- Using the Noble Quran only.
1- Using the Noble Quran and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad).
Here is the first response from the Noble Quran Itself:
From www.answering-christianity.com/que10.htm:
In Islam, we follow the laws of the Noble Quran, and the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. If a situation or case is not addressed in neither the Noble Quran, or the Sayings of our beloved Prophet, then we follow the local verdicts of our Religious Authorities, where they would decide based upon the cultural and social situation and causes.
Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran:
"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"
"When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan. (The Noble Quran, 4:83)"
Now since Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran clearly Commanded us to follow what the Prophet, peace be upon him, tells us, then let us look at what the Prophet said in regards to sex with animals:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him. I (Ikrimah) said: I asked him (Ibn Abbas): What offence can be attributed to the animal? He replied: I think he (the Prophet) disapproved of its flesh being eaten when such a thing had been done to it. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Number 4449)" The Hadith can be retrieved here.
Abu Hurairah reported Allah's Messenger (Pbuh) said: "Four types of people awake under Allah's anger and go to bed under Allah's displeasure." Those who were listening asked: "Who are they, Messenger of Allah?" He replied: Men who imitate women, women who imitate men, those who have sex with animals, and men who have sex with men." (http://www.islamawareness.net/Homosexuality/iv.html)
To the reader, please visit: Ample Islamic References about sex with animals being forbidden! A total of 28 Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad), and the list is growing, commanding the killing of those who commit sex with animals!
So there you have it!
Using the Noble Quran, I was able to debunk your absurd points. Checkmate!
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3- Conclusion:
Islam does not allow sex with animals. The Hadith that christian_prince cited does not allow sex with animals, and it was very badly misinterpreted by one ignorant with few of his followers who consider themselves Islamic scholars. Not only that, but Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, commanded the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!
Also, as I have thoroughly demonstrated above, shuabuha doesn't literally just only mean "legs" or "arms and legs". It is a notion that has vast meanings such as "straight ones", "pillars", "sticks" and so on. It is clear from the context of the Hadith that the Holy Prophet meant when the man is between the women's "four shuab", since the word "between" is the key word since only humans go "between" the shuab, where animals don't. And one more time, the Holy Prophet
Commanded the KILLING of those who are caught having sex with animals!
Also, as I mentioned above, the literal word for leg is "saaq" and two legs "saaqaan", and three or more legs "siqaan". The Holy Prophet never mentioned any of these words in his Hadith.
So checkmate to the foul-mouthed infidel (we've documented ample filth in AUDIO and TEXT from him) christian_prince and to his fabrication of quotes and lies, which he got exposed on above.
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