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Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« on: August 31, 2012, 04:12:26 AM »
Sura 65: 4


" And ( as for ) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and ( as for ) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of ( his duty to ) Allah He will make easy for him his affair."

This verse says waiting period for pre pubertal girls who have not had any menses is 3 months , does this mean that marriage and sex with pre pubertal girls is allowed in Quran ?

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 09:24:02 AM »
Peace be upon you Jesus,

Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/minimum_age_for_marriage.htm (What is the minimum age for marriage in Islam?).  In Main Section #6 in the article, I posted a debate that I had with a Christian regarding Noble Verse 65:4 that you mentioned.

In a nutshell, there is no specific magical number for minimum age for marriage in Islam, where one day younger makes the person prohibited to marry.  Rather, the Glorious Quran, in the Noble Verses that I provided in the article, makes it abundantly clear that

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the current life requires

Are not permitted to marry.
 

Here are the article's main sections:

1-  Children must reach ashuddah (full strength and growth) and adulthood.

2-  Children reaching "the age of marriage" in Noble Verse 4:6.

3-  Female-children becoming fataaya (young ladies) become ready to be "wed" (4:25).

4-  Wisdom and Knowledge from Allah Almighty came after ashuddah.

5-  What about Prophet Muhammad's marriage with 9-year old Aisha?

6-  What about Noble Verse 65:4?  Does it not allow marriage with children?  (A conversation between me and a Christian)

7-  Prophet Muhammad's advise to "O young grown-ups (shabab)" (يا معشر الشباب) for marriage.

Another article worth visiting is: http://www.answering-christianity.com/aisha.htm.  In it, you'll also see that Mary, peace be upon her, was as young as 11 when she had Jesus Christ.  This means that she was as young as 10 when she got pregnant.

But anyway, please read the first link I gave you.  You'll find your answers from the Glorious Quran, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 08:17:30 AM »
Yes please do tell us, brother Osama, what about the prophet's marrying a poor little 9 year old?

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 08:46:23 AM »
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Yes please do tell us, brother Osama, what about the prophet's marrying a poor little 9 year old?

The following points respond to your comment:

1-  Our Mother in Islam, Aisha, wasn't a poor little girl.  She grew to become one of the leading figures in Islam.  Plus, it was her parents who married her to the Prophet, peace be upon him.  She wasn't taken by force or beyond her will.

2-  Also, it was normal back then, and even today in many parts of the world, for girls this young to get married.

3-  And I don't think it was worse than the mother of your god getting pregnant with your god at the age of 10 or 11 according to your sources.  Read the article that I linked above.  Now of course, we Muslims revere Christ and his Mother Mary, peace and blessings be upon both of them.  But according to the pagan trinity, she was the mother of your god.

4-  The Glorious Quran makes it abundantly clear that

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the current life requires

Are not permitted to marry.


So the Prophet's marriage with our Mother Aisha is not a rule that must be followed, especially that the marriage happened during the early days of Islam - long before the Noble Verses that I mentioned in the article were Revealed.  Again, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/minimum_age_for_marriage.htm (What is the minimum age for marriage in Islam?).

Hope this answers your point.  Welcome to the blog.  I also hope that you'll find the Truth of Islam someday.  Ameen.

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 10:13:02 AM »
Are you saying that any 9 year old girl can have the mental ability to be someone's wife. Marry was only 3 years older! Wow, that surely justifies an older man climbing into bed with a virgin. The difference between Mary and Aisha is that Mary didn't have her marriage consummated--she wasn't defiled by an older man.

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 10:10:42 AM »
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Are you saying that any 9 year old girl can have the mental ability to be someone's wife. Marry was only 3 years older! Wow, that surely justifies an older man climbing into bed with a virgin. The difference between Mary and Aisha is that Mary didn't have her marriage consummated--she wasn't defiled by an older man.

Do you even know what the word "defile" means?  And did you know that the Bible uses it on men who "were not defiled by women"?  Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/view_of_women.htm.

Why are you considering marriage with young girls some sort of a sin and a defiling to them?  This has been going one for thousands and thousands of years before Islam and after Islam, and is still going on even today by Muslims and non-Muslims alike.  I myself wouldn't marry a 9-year old girl today, because our life is different, but my mother's grandmother, for example, was married at the age of 12, and she had well over 10 sons and daughters, and she lived till she reached 93 years old.  She lived a happy life with her many children, and also with her husband who passed away long before her.  They're both with GOD Almighty in Heaven now.  Also, both my grandmothers were married at very young ages.  My father's mother was married also at the age of 11 or 12, and she too had well over 10 sons and daughters.

Just because our world is different today, it doesn't mean that we have to spit on everything that people held from traditions and cultures before us.  This is both wrong and unfair.

I hope this answers your questions and concerns, sister in Islam.  May I suggest that you actually spend more time trying to understanding Islam, as a whole, rather than trying to nit pick things here and there?  Like I said above, our Prophet's marriage with 9-year old Aisha is not a Law nor a Rule.  We don't have to do it nor follow it.  Please don't judge the Glorious Quran by it.  The Glorious Quran made it abudantly clear that

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the current life requires

Are not permitted to marry.


Read my article, which I listed above, at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/minimum_age_for_marriage.htm.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 12:58:16 PM »
Wouldn't it be sunnat for you to marry a 9-year-old? Don't sheiks and madressa teachers teach muslims to follow and try to imitate the prophet for great reward?

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 02:18:45 PM »
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Wouldn't it be sunnat for you to marry a 9-year-old? Don't sheiks and madressa teachers teach muslims to follow and try to imitate the prophet for great reward?

Very good question, sister Antiaparteid.  A "Sunna" is an action that the Prophet of Islam, peace be upon him, have either done himself, or have spoken about.  The Sunna is not something that is mandatory to be followed in Islam.  It's almost always optional.  Furthermore, like I mentioned in the article, the marriage of the Prophet of Islam most likely happened before the Revelation of the Noble Verses that I mentioned in the article.

As to getting rewards for following the Sunna, only when it's not in conflict with the Glorious Quran.  There are Sunnas that were invalidated by the Glorious Quran.  An example of this is the divorce by Zihar (a man telling his wife you are to me like my mother).  This was the pagan Arabs' way of divorce before Islam.  During the early days of Islam, it was practiced, and the Prophet even approved it.  Latter, the Glorious Quran forbade it.

The Glorious Quran is really the Ultimate, sister.  The Sunna that agrees with the Glorious Quran is valid.  Otherwise, its law and/or practice had been invalidated.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.  As always, everyone is welcomed to share their views and opinions and criticisms.

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »
Wouldn't it be sunnat for you to marry a 9-year-old? Don't sheiks and madressa teachers teach Muslims to follow and try to imitate the prophet for great reward?

In that point ,the whole world were Sunni ,allowing the marriage of young age
In Ancient Rome, it was very common for girls to marry and have children shortly after the onset of puberty, In the 12th century Gratian, the influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted age of puberty for marriage to be between 12 and 14 but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than 7. The American colonies followed the English tradition, Mary Hathaway (Virginia, 1689) was only 9 when she was married to William Williams. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) "made it clear that the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was 9 even though her husband be only four years old."The first French Constitution established an age of consent of 11 years in 1791, which was raised to 13 in 1863. Portugal, Spain, Denmark and the Swiss cantons, initially set the age of consent at 10–12 years and then raised it to between 13 and 16 years in the second half of the 19th century. Historically, the English common law set the age of consent to range from 10 to 12.In the United States, by the 1880s, most states set the age of consent at 10–12, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only 7....




not till decades ago and the complicated modern life ,that requires great deal of study and complicated tasks,has obliged the people to postpone the time of marriage ....Social attitudes toward the appropriate age of consent have drifted upwards in modern times. For example, while ages from 10 to 13 were typically acceptable in Western countries during the mid-19th century, the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century were marked by changing attitudes towards sexuality and childhood resulting in raising the ages of consent to ages generally ranging from 16 to 18.......


in spite of that , in most of the world,the sexual contact still active in that young age between boys and girls secretly... you are a non-Muslim,Antiaparteid, living in a non-Muslim country ,and you know that better than me...
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wish I had lived in such a simple society , enjoying one of the basic instincts normally , by having sexual intercourse beginning from the age of puberty "I had 11 years old then"   but sadly I couldn't , and you know why... ,I have to study the complicated modern study ,I can't afford marriage  etc....

One last word to Antiaparteid, wish you had uncovered your true identity from the beginning,cause then you could had won my respect to you as a non Muslim proud of his identity ...

there is another non Muslim here (mokko),that  though I disagree with him,yet I respect him for being honest about his identity...



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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 12:56:48 PM »
Times have changed. 50 years ago, almost every person exceeding the age of 12 would have already been married.

Antiapartied, in the future, be cautious regarding the tone you address the Messenger of Allah (may Almighty Allah bless him and grant him peace) and his wife, `Â'isha, the mother of believers (may Almighty Allah be pleased with her), with. :)

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Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 04:28:08 PM »
I found the following.  This may help clear up some of the confusion regarding this topic. 
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Was Ayesha A Six-Year-Old Bride?
The Ancient Myth Exposed
by T.O. Shanavas
A Christian friend asked me once, “Will you marry your seven year old daughter to a fifty year old man?” I kept my silence. He continued, “If you would not, how can you approve the marriage of an innocent seven year old, Ayesha, with your Prophet?” I told him, “I don’t have an answer to your question at this time.” Most Muslims answer that such marriages were accepted in those days. Otherwise, people would have objected to Prophet’s marriage with Ayesha.
However, such an explanation would be gullible only for those who are naive enough to believe it. But unfortunately, I was not satisfied with the answer.
The Prophet was an exemplary man. All his actions were most virtuous so that we, Muslims, can emulate them. However, most people in our Islamic Center of Toledo, including me, would not think of betrothing our seven years daughter to a fifty-two year-old man. If a parent agrees to such a wedding, most people, if not all, would look down upon the father and the old husband.
In 1923, registrars of marriage in Egypt were instructed not to register and issue official certificates of marriage for brides less than sixteen and grooms less than eighteen years of age. Eight years later, the Law of the Organization and Procedure of Sheriah courts of 1931 consolidated the above provision by not hearing the marriage disputes involving brides less than sixteen and grooms less than eighteen years old. (Women in Muslim Family Law, John Esposito, 1982). It shows that even in the Muslim majority country of Egypt the child marriages are unacceptable.
So, I believed, without solid evidence other than my reverence to my Prophet, that the stories of the marriage of seven-year-old Ayesha to 50-year-old Prophet are only myths. However, my long pursuit in search of the truth on this matter proved my intuition correct. My Prophet was a gentleman. And he did not marry an innocent seven or nine year old girl. The age of Ayesha has been erroneously reported in the hadith literature. Furthermore, I think that the narratives reporting this event are highly unreliable. Some of the hadith (traditions of the Prophet) regarding Ayesha’s age at the time of her wedding with prophet are problematic. I present the following evidences against the acceptance of the fictitious story by Hisham ibn ‘Urwah and to clear the name of my Prophet as an irresponsible old man preying on an innocent little girl.
EVIDENCE #1: Reliability of Source
Most of the narratives printed in the books of hadith are reported only by Hisham ibn `Urwah, who was reporting on the authority of his father. First of all, more people than just one, two or three should logically have reported. It is strange that no one from Medina, where Hisham ibn `Urwah lived the first 71 years of his life narrated the event, despite the fact that his Medinan pupils included the well-respected Malik ibn Anas. The origins of the report of the narratives of this event are people from Iraq, where Hisham is reported to have shifted after living in Medina for most of his life.
Tehzibu’l-Tehzib, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet, reports that according to Yaqub ibn Shaibah: “He [Hisham] is highly reliable, his narratives are acceptable, except what he narrated after moving over to Iraq” (Tehzi’bu’l-tehzi’b, Ibn Hajar Al-`asqala’ni, Dar Ihya al-turath al-Islami, 15th century. Vol 11, p. 50).
It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people in Iraq: “I have been told that Malik objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq” (Tehzi’b u’l-tehzi’b, Ibn Hajar Al-`asqala’ni, Dar Ihya al-turath al-Islami, Vol.11, p. 50).
Mizanu’l-ai`tidal, another book on the life sketches of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet reports: “When he was old, Hisham’s memory suffered quite badly” (Mizanu’l-ai`tidal, Al-Zahbi, Al-Maktabatu’l-athriyyah, Sheikhupura, Pakistan, Vol. 4, p. 301).
CONCLUSION: Based on these references, Hisham’s memory was failing and his narratives while in Iraq were unreliable. So, his narrative of Ayesha’s marriage and age are unreliable.
CHRONOLOGY: It is vital also to keep in mind some of the pertinent dates in the history of Islam:
pre-610 CE: Jahiliya (pre-Islamic age) before revelation
610 CE: First revelation
610 CE: AbuBakr accepts Islam
613 CE: Prophet Muhammad begins preaching publicly.
615 CE: Emigration to Abyssinia
616 CE: Umar bin al Khattab accepts Islam
620 CE: Generally accepted betrothal of Ayesha to the Prophet
622 CE: Hijrah (emigation to Yathrib, later renamed Medina)
623/624 CE: Generally accepted year of Ayesha living with the Prophet
EVIDENCE #2: The Betrothal
According to Tabari (also according to Hisham ibn ‘Urwah, Ibn Hunbal and Ibn Sad), Ayesha was betrothed at seven years of age and began to cohabit with the Prophet at the age of nine years.
However, in another work, Al-Tabari says: “All four of his [Abu Bakr’s] children were born of his two wives during the pre-Islamic period” (Tarikhu’l-umam wa’l-mamlu’k, Al-Tabari (died 922), Vol. 4, p. 50, Arabic, Dara’l-fikr, Beirut, 1979).
If Ayesha was betrothed in 620 CE (at the age of seven) and started to live with the Prophet in 624 CE (at the age of nine), that would indicate that she was born in 613 CE and was nine when she began living with the Prophet. Therefore, based on one account of Al-Tabari, the numbers show that Ayesha must have born in 613 CE, three years after the beginning of revelation (610 CE). Tabari also states that Ayesha was born in the pre-Islamic era (in Jahiliya). If she was born before 610 CE, she would have been at least 14 years old when she began living with the Prophet. Essentially, Tabari contradicts himself.
CONCLUSION: Al-Tabari is unreliable in the matter of determining Ayesha’s age.
EVIDENCE # 3: The Age of Ayesha in Relation to the Age of Fatima
According to Ibn Hajar, “Fatima was born at the time the Ka`bah was rebuilt, when the Prophet was 35 years old... she was five years older that Ayesha” (Al-isabah fi tamyizi’l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol. 4, p. 377, Maktabatu’l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh, 1978).
If Ibn Hajar’s statement is factual, Ayesha was born when the Prophet was 40 years old. If Ayesha was married to the Prophet when he was 52 years old, Ayesha’s age at marriage would be 12 years.
CONCLUSION: Ibn Hajar, Tabari an Ibn Hisham and Ibn Humbal contradict each other. So, the marriage of Ayesha at seven years of age is a myth.
EVIDENCE #4: Ayesha’s Age in relation to Asma’s Age
According to Abda’l-Rahman ibn abi zanna’d: “Asma was 10 years older than Ayesha (Siyar A`la’ma’l-nubala’, Al-Zahabi, Vol. 2, p. 289, Arabic, Mu’assasatu’l-risalah, Beirut, 1992).
According to Ibn Kathir: “She [Asma] was elder to her sister [Ayesha] by 10 years” (Al-Bidayah wa’l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol. 8, p. 371, Dar al-fikr al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933).
According to Ibn Kathir: “She [Asma] saw the killing of her son during that year [73 AH], as we have already mentioned, and five days later she herself died. According to other narratives, she died not after five days but 10 or 20, or a few days over 20, or 100 days later. The most well known narrative is that of 100 days later. At the time of her death, she was 100 years old.” (Al-Bidayah wa’l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol. 8, p. 372, Dar al-fikr al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933)
According to Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani: “She [Asma] lived a hundred years and died in 73 or 74 AH.” (Taqribu’l-tehzib, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, p. 654, Arabic, Bab fi’l-nisa’, al-harfu’l-alif, Lucknow).
According to almost all the historians, Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha was 10 years older than Ayesha. If Asma was 100 years old in 73 AH, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of the hijrah.
If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha should have been 17 or 18 years old. Thus, Ayesha, being 17 or 18 years of at the time of Hijra, she started to cohabit with the Prophet between at either 19 to 20 years of age.
Based on Hajar, Ibn Katir, and Abda’l-Rahman ibn abi zanna’d, Ayesha’s age at the time she began living with the Prophet would be 19 or 20. In Evidence # 3, Ibn Hajar suggests that Ayesha was 12 years old and in Evidence #4 he contradicts himself with a 17 or 18-year-old Ayesha. What is the correct age, twelve or eighteen?
CONCLUSION: Ibn Hajar is an unreliable source for Ayesha’s age.
EVIDENCE #5: The Battles of Badr and Uhud
A narrative regarding Ayesha’s participation in Badr is given in the hadith of Muslim, (Kitabu’l-jihad wa’l-siyar, Bab karahiyati’l-isti`anah fi’l-ghazwi bikafir). Ayesha, while narrating the journey to Badr and one of the important events that took place in that journey, says: “when we reached Shajarah”. Obviously, Ayesha was with the group travelling towards Badr. A narrative regarding Ayesha’s participation in the Battle of Uhud is given in Bukhari (Kitabu’l-jihad wa’l-siyar, Bab Ghazwi’l-nisa’ wa qitalihinna ma`a’lrijal): “Anas reports that on the day of Uhud, people could not stand their ground around the Prophet. [On that day,] I saw Ayesha and Umm-i-Sulaim, they had pulled their dress up from their feet [to avoid any hindrance in their movement].” Again, this indicates that Ayesha was present in the Battles of Uhud and Badr.
It is narrated in Bukhari (Kitabu’l-maghazi, Bab Ghazwati’l-khandaq wa hiya’l-ahza’b): “Ibn `Umar states that the Prophet did not permit me to participate in Uhud, as at that time, I was 14 years old. But on the day of Khandaq, when I was 15 years old, the Prophet permitted my participation.”
Based on the above narratives, (a) the children below 15 years were sent back and were not allowed to participate in the Battle of Uhud, and (b) Ayesha participated in the Battles of Badr and Uhud
CONCLUSION: Ayesha’s participation in the Battles of Badr and Uhud clearly indicates that she was not nine years old but at least 15 years old. After all, women used to accompany men to the battlefields to help them, not to be a burden on them. This account is another contradiction regarding Ayesha’s age.
EVIDENCE #6: Surat al-Qamar (The Moon)
According to the generally accepted tradition, Ayesha was born about eight years before hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari, Ayesha is reported to have said: “I was a young girl (jariyah in Arabic)” when Surah Al-Qamar was revealed (Sahih Bukhari, kitabu’l-tafsir, Bab Qaulihi Bal al-sa`atu Maw`iduhum wa’l-sa`atu adha’ wa amarr).
Chapter 54 of the Quran was revealed eight years before hijrah (The Bounteous Koran, M.M. Khatib, 1985), indicating that it was revealed in 614 CE. If Ayesha started living with the Prophet at the age of nine in 623 CE or 624 CE, she was a newborn infant (sibyah in Arabic) at the time that Surah Al-Qamar (The Moon) was revealed. According to the above tradition, Ayesha was actually a young girl, not an infant in the year of revelation of Al-Qamar. Jariyah means young playful girl (Lane’s Arabic English Lexicon). So, Ayesha, being a jariyah not a sibyah (infant), must be somewhere between 6-13 years old at the time of revelation of Al-Qamar, and therefore must have been 14-21 years at the time she married the Prophet.
CONCLUSION: This tradition also contradicts the marriage of Ayesha at the age of nine.
EVIDENCE #7: Arabic Terminology
According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of the Prophet’s first wife Khadijah, when Khaulah came to the Prophet advising him to marry again, the Prophet asked her regarding the choices she had in mind. Khaulah said: “You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)”. When the Prophet asked the identity of the bikr (virgin), Khaulah mentioned Ayesha’s name.
All those who know the Arabic language are aware that the word bikr in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine-year-old girl. The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier, is jariyah. Bikr on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady without conjugal experience prior to marriage, as we understand the word “virgin” in English. Therefore, obviously a nine-year-old girl is not a “lady” (bikr) (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Vol. 6, p. .210, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut).
CONCLUSION: The literal meaning of the word, bikr (virgin), in the above hadith is “adult woman with no sexual experience prior to marriage.” Therefore, Ayesha was an adult woman at the time of her marriage.
EVIDENCE #8. The Qur’anic Text
All Muslims agree that the Quran is the book of guidance. So, we need to seek the guidance from the Quran to clear the smoke and confusion created by the eminent men of the classical period of Islam in the matter of Ayesha’s age at her marriage. Does the Quran allow or disallow marriage of an immature child of seven years of age?
There are no verses that explicitly allow such marriage. There is a verse, however, that guides Muslims in their duty to raise an orphaned child. The Quran’s guidance on the topic of raising orphans is also valid in the case of our own children. The verse states: “And make not over your property (property of the orphan), which Allah had made a (means of) support for you, to the weak of understanding, and maintain them out of it, clothe them and give them good education. And test them until they reach the age of marriage. Then if you find them maturity of intellect, make over them their property...” (Quran, 4:5-6).
In the matter of children who have lost a parent, a Muslim is ordered to (a) feed them, (b) clothe them, (c) educate them, and (d) test them for maturity “until the age of marriage” before entrusting them with management of finances.
Here the Quranic verse demands meticulous proof of their intellectual and physical maturity by objective test results before the age of marriage in order to entrust their property to them.
In light of the above verses, no responsible Muslim would hand over financial management to a seven- or nine-year-old immature girl. If we cannot trust a seven-year-old to manage financial matters, she cannot be intellectually or physically fit for marriage. Ibn Hambal (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hambal, vol.6, p. 33 and 99) claims that nine-year-old Ayesha was rather more interested in playing with toy-horses than taking up the responsible task of a wife. It is difficult to believe, therefore, that AbuBakr, a great believer among Muslims, would betroth his immature seven-year-old daughter to the 50-year-old Prophet. Equally difficult to imagine is that the Prophet would marry an immature seven-year-old girl.
Another important duty demanded from the guardian of a child is to educate them. Let us ask the question, “How many of us believe that we can educate our children satisfactorily before they reach the age of seven or nine years?” The answer is none. Logically, it is an impossible task to educate a child satisfactorily before the child attains the age of seven. Then, how can we believe that Ayesha was educated satisfactorily at the claimed age of seven at the time of her marriage?
AbuBakr was a more judicious man than all of us. So, he definitely would have judged that Ayesha was a child at heart and was not satisfactorily educated as demanded by the Quran. He would not have married her to anyone. If a proposal of marrying the immature and yet to be educated seven-year-old Ayesha came to the Prophet, he would have rejected it outright because neither the Prophet nor AbuBakr would violate any clause in the Quran.
CONCLUSION: The marriage of Ayesha at the age of seven years would violate the maturity clause or requirement of the Quran. Therefore, the story of the marriage of the seven-year-old immature Ayesha is a myth.
EVIDENCE #9: Consent in Marriage
A women must be consulted and must agree in order to make a marriage valid (Mishakat al Masabiah, translation by James Robson, Vol. I, p. 665). Islamically, credible permission from women is a prerequisite for a marriage to be valid.
By any stretch of the imagination, the permission given by an immature seven-year-old girl cannot be valid authorization for marriage.
It is inconceivable that AbuBakr, an intelligent man, would take seriously the permission of a seven-year-old girl to marry a 50-year-old man.
Similarly, the Prophet would not have accepted the permission given by a girl who, according to the hadith of Muslim, took her toys with her when she went live with Prophet.
CONCLUSION: The Prophet did not marry a seven-year-old Ayesha because it would have violated the requirement of the valid permission clause of the Islamic Marriage Decree. Therefore, the Prophet married an intellectually and physically mature lady Ayesha.
SUMMARY:
It was neither an Arab tradition to give away girls in marriage at an age as young as seven or nine years, nor did the Prophet marry Ayesha at such a young age. The people of Arabia did not object to this marriage because it never happened in the manner it has been narrated.
Obviously, the narrative of the marriage of nine-year-old Ayesha by Hisham ibn `Urwah cannot be held true when it is contradicted by many other reported narratives. Moreover, there is absolutely no reason to accept the narrative of Hisham ibn `Urwah as true when other scholars, including Malik ibn Anas, view his narrative while in Iraq, as unreliable. The quotations from Tabari, Bukhari and Muslim show they contradict each other regarding Ayesha’s age. Furthermore, many of these scholars contradict themselves in their own records. Thus, the narrative of Ayesha’s age at the time of the marriage is not reliable due to the clear contradictions seen in the works of classical scholars of Islam.
Therefore, there is absolutely no reason to believe that the information on Ayesha’s age is accepted as true when there are adequate grounds to reject it as myth. Moreover, the Quran rejects the marriage of immature girls and boys as well as entrusting them with responsibilities.
T.O. Shanavas is a physician based in Michigan. This article first appeared in The Minaret in March 1999.
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Extracted 09/06/02 from The Minaret

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