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Offline seif73

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Rebuttal to a christian
« on: May 30, 2013, 07:09:05 am »
Hi

I meet this christian every week with a dialogue and my understanding of my religion is slightly weak that i accidentally say the wrong thing.

one thing he said is god is merciful meaning that if he wants to forgive a sinner he can, which is unjust. I said yes if that is what he wills.

he responded that thought terrifies him.

also i quote him biblical verses and he responds back.

acts 2:22 he says yes we agree he is a man.

also he quoted after the resurrection the disciples locked themselves in the room and jesus appeared coming to conclusion that he walked through walls and he says this is the form of jesus before flesh.

i talked to him about john 1:1 which is supposed to read in the beginning was the word word was with god and the word was a god.

so he went to talk to his church head.

see what he responds.

but queries such as sons of god like adam, israel has confused him so hope that makes him understand.

I even sent him a article about anglican bishops not obliged to say jesus is god.

may allah give him guidance ameen.

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 02:25:30 pm »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Seif73,

Welcome to the board, dear brother.  May Allah Almighty continue to strengthen your Faith in Islam, and bestow His Mercy and Protection and Guidance upon you.  Ameen.

You might want to visit the following important article, dear brother.  It's got links to text and media debates and is divided into 13 or so sections that systematically walk you through how to help a non-Muslim convert to Islam, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  The article is:

www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Please let us know here if you have more questions akhi.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 07:32:34 pm »
Assalam Ulaikum

Jazak allah khair for the link i will try it when i meet him next inshallah.

I have been following answering christianity since about 2007 and mashallah really appreciate the effort
may allah reward you with jannatal firdaus for your effort and give guidance to non muslims through the info on here.


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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 12:57:11 pm »
How would telling the christians that 9/11 was a hoax and bostom bombing was a fake and its all a set up challenge him about his faith.
I will probably go onto step 2.

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 02:07:55 pm »
How would telling the christians that 9/11 was a hoax and bostom bombing was a fake and its all a set up challenge him about his faith.
I will probably go onto step 2.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

In order for you to convince them, you have to challenge them to refute the following two sections:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm

http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm#boston

By the way, 2 of the main FBI Agents who worked on the Boston case, and directly worked on the arrest and interrogation of the younger brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, had been killed by the FBI.  Visit the links.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 07:55:19 am »
so how do i come about bringing up this topic in the conversation do i say.

so what do you think about the 9/11 attack and the boston bombing, did you know it was a set up, he will probably think i see he is a conspiracy theory enthusiast and not take me seriously.

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 08:43:37 am »
And do you take that farce of 9\11 seriously ? A plane hits the building and nothing of it survives except a passport and a ring of some Muslim they think did it ? Yeah , makes sense .

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 06:55:44 am »
Of course i know the 9/11 of a set up but the people behind it are too many with multiple connects that one may get lost, but i know it was the governments i.e. cia, president all those people at high power.

but i don't know much about the boston bombing.
i will ask him his opinion on what he things and once he agrees it was set up we can move on to part 2.

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2013, 04:44:33 pm »
John Dawson, Osama doesn't know about u yet ;D

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2013, 04:57:44 pm »
He Does Now, now tell him to stop running and give me questions.

I am waiting.

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2016, 04:29:38 pm »
In the history of mankind, unlike Buddha, Mohammed, Confucius, or anyone else,
Jesus Christ is the ONE & ONLY ONE to be resurrected.

If you desire the most powerful eternal love, grace and salvation, state the following at least once EVERY DAY of your earthly life:

“Lord Jesus, I repented my sins, come into my heart, wash me clean, I’ll make you my lord and saviour.”

If you are dying, or about to die, pray with an open heart, and say (even if only thinking it in your mind, if – for whatever reason – you are unable to speak:

“Lord Jesus, forgive me.”

May the Holy Spirit touch your heart!!!

Yours in Christ,

John

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2016, 11:59:46 pm »
Peace be upon you John,

Welcome to the board.  I ask Allah Almighty to further guide you to Islam.  Ameen.

In regards to the Lord Isa (Jesus), peace be upon him, you're wrong on a few things:

1-  His name isn't Jesus.  It's Isa (eesa).  Even according to your Greek and Latin sources, his name was Iesu and/or Iesus.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/isa.htm

2-  The Bible declares in Psalm 91, Psalm 116-118 and Isaiah 53 that he will never die from his enemies.

3-  Isaiah 52, Psalm 91, Psalm 116-118 and Isaiah 53 also declare that GOD Almighty will lift him up and save him.

4-  Islam came and confirmed all of these claims.

To understand this better, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm




Psalm 116:16 even references Jesus and Mary:

Interestingly enough, John, Psalm 116:16 references Jesus and his Mother, Mary, peace be upon both of them.  This is more confirmation that the books that I mentioned above from the Bible do indeed confirm that Jesus was never to die on the cross, nor ever get crucified.  And here both Jesus and Mary are referenced as GOD Almighty's Slaves.  "Abd" is translated as "servant", but it's the same exact word used for the Jews gentile slaves.  "Abd" is also the same in Arabic.  Like the first three letters in my last name.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rebuttal to a christian
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2016, 06:37:29 am »
In the history of mankind, unlike Buddha, Mohammed, Confucius, or anyone else,
Jesus Christ is the ONE & ONLY ONE to be resurrected.

If you desire the most powerful eternal love, grace and salvation, state the following at least once EVERY DAY of your earthly life:
“Lord Jesus, I repented my sins, come into my heart, wash me clean, I’ll make you my lord and saviour.”

The story of resurrection was spread by Paul after claiming to met Jesus in the desert.
Also resurrection of the dead had happened before.

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And [recall] when you said, "O Moses, we will never believe you until we see Allah outright"; so the thunderbolt took you while you were looking on.
Then We revived you after your death that perhaps you would be grateful. (2:55-56)


The so called story about human-God with  love, grace and salvation is not true.
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Its all about bloodshed, vengeance from a War God. No peace will be attained between non believers and believers when War God arrived.

When their manifested God in human-form descend to earth, they believe that their manifested War God will not guide non-believers to make peace with believers but rather, as the War God returned he will send non-believers to hell on earth by shouting out 'sword' from his mouth.

One would expect war and bloodshed should have ended upon judgement from a War God that descend down to earth.

But the story in the Greek books described that their War God is still unsatisfied with punishing non-believers in hell, he will release their leader first so the evil leader can prepare his armies on earth to attack the War God in another so called Final Battle. The War God will boast his triumph by instantly winning the battle by invoking fire from the sky to torment them with painful ending.