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Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« on: December 29, 2013, 06:31:24 PM »
AsalamuAlaikum,

This is something that ive encountered a few times now. And im shocked due to it being utterly baseless and against all the facts.

In response to this ive written the following article detailing how Safiyyah choose to marry the Prophet (SAW) and the beautiful relationship that they shared. You are free to use this and copy and paste or upload anywhere else you wish online.

Make sure to check it out:

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 08:28:35 AM »
Assalamualykum.


 Excellent refutation brother!!!!!!!! Keep up. ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

« Last Edit: December 30, 2013, 08:37:00 AM by FARHAN_UDDIN »

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 08:31:29 AM »
Assalamualykum.


 Excellent refutation brother!!!!!!!! Keep up. ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

Jazak Allah Khairan. Should shut up Ali Sina and the others ignorant of history.

I mean some of the accusations people come out with just shows there irrational hate of Islam.

Sadly the unwise parrot there articles has ive encountered 3+ times now.

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 08:37:40 AM »
Okay brother one question why does Muhammad(PBUH) ask Hazrat Safiyya to say:

''.....How can you better than I, when my father is Aaron, my uncle is Moses and my husband is Muhammad.''[Al-Istee'ab 3439 and At-Tirmidhi 3893]


 How can her uncle be Hadhrat Musa (AS) and father be Hadhrat Auron(AS)? Brother please clarify this.

And keep up your good job.  May Allah bless you.Ameen

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 06:24:52 PM »
Okay brother one question why does Muhammad(PBUH) ask Hazrat Safiyya to say:

''.....How can you better than I, when my father is Aaron, my uncle is Moses and my husband is Muhammad.''[Al-Istee'ab 3439 and At-Tirmidhi 3893]


 How can her uncle be Hadhrat Musa (AS) and father be Hadhrat Auron(AS)? Brother please clarify this.

And keep up your good job.  May Allah bless you.Ameen
People were mocking Safiyyah (RA) for being Jewish. Mainy Hafsa and Aisha who thought they were better as they were from Quraysh. They still had some Jahyliah (pre islam) ignorance in them.

So the prophet told her to reply with that. Basicly to smash them and say that she is more prestigous.

Safiyyah (RA) was Jewish. She is decendant of the line of Aarun. Meaning her forefather was Aarun. Aaruns brother was Moses.

Saying "Father" and "Uncle" refers to her ancestors.

Hope this made sense.

Basicly saying she is a decendant of a prophet, related to a prophet and married to a prophet.

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 07:46:16 AM »
Assalamualykum.

 Thanks for clearing up everything ;D ;D ;D.  May Allah bless you. Ameen

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 09:41:02 AM »
AsalamuAlaikum,

This is something that ive encountered a few times now. And im shocked due to it being utterly baseless and against all the facts.

In response to this ive written the following article detailing how Safiyyah choose to marry the Prophet (SAW) and the beautiful relationship that they shared. You are free to use this and copy and paste or upload anywhere else you wish online.

Make sure to check it out:

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

I just post a message under your article in your blog.  Great work, dear brother!  Jazaka Allah Khayr.  Keep up the great work akhi.  We need more articles like these.  I will link your article along with other brothers' articles that they've linked on the website, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 05:35:43 AM »
AsalamuAlaikum.

Ive added more resources to the blog.

Could this be added to the next update brother Osama?

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 11:25:23 AM »
AsalamuAlaikum.

Ive added more resources to the blog.

Could this be added to the next update brother Osama?

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

I will get to it by this weekend, insha'Allah.  I am sorry for taking too long.  Please also feel free to post the updates under the "Open Defects" thread.  But either way, I will get to your posts and all other posts by this weekend, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2014, 05:09:53 PM »
AsalamuAlaikum,

Any chance the article could be added to the site akhi.

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html

I was thinking maybe at the top of the following article:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/safiyyah_the_wife_of_the_prophet.htm

In sha Allah.

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 06:00:13 AM »
Rape is an abhorrent crime and an abominable sin. This heinous crime is forbidden not only in Islam but in all religions, and all people of sound thinking and pure human nature reject it.

The Arabic word ightisab (rape) refers to taking something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to transgression against the honor of women by force. 

This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who possess sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it.

Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant action is haram (forbidden) and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who commits it. 

Islam closes the door to the criminal who wants to commit this crime. Western studies have shown that most rapists are already criminals who commit their crimes under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and they take advantage of the fact that their victims are walking alone in isolated places or staying in the house alone. These studies also show that what the criminals watch on the media and the semi-naked styles of dress in which women go out also lead to the commission of this reprehensible crime. 

The laws of Islam came to protect women’s honor and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest. In addition, Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings that close the door before rape and other crimes. Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies, which are looked up to by some Muslims as examples of civilization and refinement! It is worth mentioning here that in America , for example, Amnesty International stated in a 2004 report entitled “Stop Violence Against Women” that every 90 seconds a woman was raped during that year. 

The punishment for rape in Islam is the same as the punishment for zina (adultery or fornication), which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

Moreover, Ibn `Abdul-Barr (may Allah bless his soul) said

The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (that is, if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her. (Al-Istidhkaar, 7/146).

In addition, the rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knifepoint or gunpoint. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muharib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allah says  (The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter) (Al-Ma’idah 5:33).

So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.

ISLAM STOP RAPE WITH EVEN SLAVE GIRL:

Malik :: Book 36 : Hadith 36.16.14
Malik related to me from Ibn Shihab that Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan gave a judgment that the rapist had to pay the raped woman her bride-price.

Yahya said that he heard Malik say, "What is done in our community about the man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, is that he must pay the bride-price of the like of her. If she is a slave, he must pay what he has diminished of her worth. The hadd-punishment in such cases is applied to the rapist, and there is no punishment applied to the raped woman. If the rapist is a slave, that is against his master unless he wishes to surrender him."

Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
Malik related to me from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd informed him that a man who had had intercourse with a virgin slave-girl and made her pregnant was brought to Abu Bakr as-Siddiq. He confessed to fornication, and he was not muhsan. Abu Bakr gave the order and he was flogged with the hadd punishment. Then he was banished to Fadak, (thirty miles from Madina).

Malik spoke about a person who confessed to fornication and then retracted it and said, "I didn't do it. I said that for such-and-such a reason," and he mentioned the reason. Malik said, "That is accepted from him and the hadd is not imposed on him. That is because the hadd is what is for Allah, and it is only applied by one of two means, either by a clear proof which establishes guilt or by a confession which is persisted in so that the hadd is imposed. If someone persists in his confession, the hadd is imposed on him."

Malik said, "I have not seen the people of knowledge exiling slaves who have committed adultery."

FORCED SEX PROHIBITED:

Bukhari:6949
Muslim :: Book 43 : Hadith 7181
Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2304
Malik :: Book 54 : Hadith 54.16.42
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.3.15

Slave sex prohibited:

Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 506
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection." Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Sa'id saying that the Prophet said, 'No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it."
Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 79 :: Hadith 706
Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 77 :: Hadith 600
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 718
Malik :: Book 29 : Hadith 29.32.95
Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4201
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 34 :: Hadith 432

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2014, 01:30:59 AM »
Hello i still don't know how she agreed to accept Islam and married the Prophet after her family was killed please ANSWER ME so i can tell others :(

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2014, 03:06:02 PM »
Hello i still don't know how she agreed to accept Islam and married the Prophet after her family was killed please ANSWER ME so i can tell others :(

AsalamuAlaikum,

This is what my next upcoming article will be about.

There are many reasons:

She fell in love with the Prophet SAW before meeting him:



نَزَلَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ خَيْبَرَ وَصَفِيَّةُ عَرُوسٌ فِي مَجَاسِدِهَا، فَرَأَتْ فِي الْمَنَامِ كَأَنَّ الشَّمْسَ نَزَلَتْ حَتَّى وَقَعَتْ عَلَى صَدْرِهَا، فَقَصَّتْ ذَلِكَ عَلَى زَوْجِهَا، فَقَالَ: وَاللَّهِ مَا تَمَنَّيْنَ إِلا هَذَا الْمَلِكَ الَّذِي نَزَلَ بنا، فَفَتَحَهَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَضَرَبَ عُنُقَ زَوْجِهَا صَبْرًا، وَتَعَرِّضَ مِنْ هُنَاكَ مِنْ فِتْيَةِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِيَتَزَوَّجَهَا
When Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) reached Khyber while Safiya was a bride at her place. She saw in her dream that a sun came into her lap. She mentioned it before her husband. He said; ‘By Allah you do not wish for anyone except the King who has come upon us.’ Allah’s Messenger conquered Khyber and her husband was killed. From that time (of dream) she loved that the Prophet (pbuh) may marry her.

[Tabarani Kabeer, Hadith 19667]


Also, the symbolic fall of the sun onto Safiyah's chest had its own indications. For she had a yearning, from the depth of her heart full of faith, for the person of the Messenger of Allah, Muhammad.

[Muhammad 'Ali Qutb, (2008) Women Around The Messenger, International Islamic Publishing House, p101]

During her childhood her parents and uncles were worried about the Prophet Muhammad SAW because they knew he was a prophet:

"When the Prophet emigrated to Medeenah, he stopped on his way in a place called Quba'. When the Jews heard of his arrival they hurried to see him to make sure that he was the epected prophet and they started comparing him to what was written in their books about the last prophet expected to rise... Safiyah said: ... Then I heard my uncle, Abu Yasir saying to my father: "Is he the one?" My father said: "Yes, he is." My uncle said: "Are you sure of that? Are you sure that he is the Seal of the Prophets?" My father said: "Yes, he is the last Prophet."...

[Faridah Mas'ood Debas, The Wives of the Prophet Muhammad, International Islamic Publishing House, pp.123-4]

So as a young child she knew he was a Prophet.

Aswell her husband use to hit her:


When the Prophet entered Safiyyah's presence, he notice a bruise on her face; he asked her about it and she said: " I saw in a dream that a moon had fallen into my room and I informed my husband, Kinanah about it and he said: "This means naught except that you desire Al-Hijaz and Muhammad!" Then he struck me a blow to my face and this is the mark left by it."

[Darussalam, (2004) The Honorable Wives of the Prophet, Darussalam, p.115]

And as we know the Prophet SAW never hit his wives and taught good treatment of women:

The Messenger of Allah () said: "The best of you is the best to his wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.

[At-Tirmidhi Book 49, Hadith 4269 Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)]

The Prophet said: "The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives."

[Sunan Ibn Majah Book 9, Hadith 2053 Grade: Hasan]

The Messenger of Allaah said: ‘Be kind to women.’”

[Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3153; Muslim, 1468]

“Aisha reported that Allah's Messenger, may Allah bless him, never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant, but only, in the case when he had been fighting in the cause of Allah …” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 4296)

It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah never beat any of his servants, or wives, and his hand never hit anything."

[Sunan Ibn Majah Book 9, Hadith 2060 Muslim. Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)]


There are so many reasons and in shaa Allah in my article I will detail them.

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 11:48:24 AM »
When i told the critics that her Husband used to beat her then he replied,

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Her husband was not only killed but her family and friends were also killed by the Muslims do you still think that she fell in love? Open your eyes!


ThatMuslimGuy how should i respond this? Ahm...

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Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2014, 07:44:12 AM »
When i told the critics that her Husband used to beat her then he replied,

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Her husband was not only killed but her family and friends were also killed by the Muslims do you still think that she fell in love? Open your eyes!

ThatMuslimGuy how should i respond this? Ahm...

As'salamu Alaikum,

I don't agree with everything that is written in our sources from history, unless it has confirmation or validity from other stronger outside sources such as the Glorious Quran or the parts of the Bible that agree with the Glorious Quran, or anything of that sort.  Otherwise, it is easy to be biased and write something that favors the Prophet, even if it's not true.

Whether Safiyyah loved the Prophet or not, it has no value on whether Islam is the Divine Truth or not.  Harems and spoils of war existed throughout all of humanity's history, and it is certainly in the Bible and outside the Bible.  I know where the source of the garbage that is raised to you comes from.  I would like you to route your Islam-hating missionaries to the following to read from their own Bible:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm




Why were David's wives turned into prostitutes by GOD Almighty?

Here is one lovely question for you to ask those Islam-hating doomed-to-Hell infidels:  Why did GOD Almighty turn David's wives into prostitutes as a punishment for David's adultery with Bethsheba?  What fault were the wives at?  Why did they have to be turned into prostitutes by GOD Almighty in order to punish David?  Isn't this legalizing prostitution by GOD Almighty when it is strictly forbidden in the Bible? 

And isn't this like a childhood priest sodomizing one of those missionaries who posed their nonsense to you, and the priest's children were in turn made to be sodomized, while the priest himself was left unpunished?

Again, visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm

Now don't get me wrong here.  If GOD Almighty allowed this, then I would have no issue with it.  After all, I am nothing but a creation of GOD Almighty, and I am a nobody to question GOD Almighty's Divine Will and Wisdom.  But I would like you to see the hypocrisy of the missionaries when they try to answer this for you.

They say that Muhammad is false because he married Safiyyah after killing her family in battle.  Let us see what will their answer be about turning David's wives into prostitutes as a punishment for David's adultery, by GOD Almighty Himself according to the Bible.

And last and not least, to see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles and clear proofs of Its Divine Origins, please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


And one last point on Safiyyah:

It would make sense that Safiyyah would choose the Prophet over any other man.  After all, why not pick the best?  I would not necessarily agree that she LOVED the Prophet.  But whether she did or not, the fact remains that she was a spoil of war, - a slave, - and she had to be given to some man for a harem to be his slave.  So her being given to the Prophet out of the many other women who were not given to the Prophet was honorable enough for her, especially when the Prophet, peace be upon him, MARRIED HER IN HONOR TO HER.

Like I said, and as shown above in the discussion, the Prophet married Safiyyah.  But even if he never did marry her, it still wouldn't mean a thing.  Even if she was never given the honor to marry the Prophet, and was only kept as a slave and as a spoil of war and as a harem, it still wouldn't mean a thing one way or another.  The polytheist Trinitarian pagans' Bible commanded the killing of all humans where were taken captives after wars.  At least Islam never commanded that:

[076:008]  And for the sake of His (Allah) love, they feed the poor (and needy), the orphans and the captives.

Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/captives.htm

As to what the Bible's commands to kill all children, and all adults, and even all animals and plants, again, visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm


The doomed-to-Hell Islam-hating infidels have nothing but noise on Islam.




And what if it truly dawned on her?

And what if the Truth of the Prophet being the Seal of the Prophets, and the expected Prophet that the Jews of Arabia were expecting has finally dawned on her and she truly became a believer?  But whether she became a believer, and loved the Prophet, or not, it really matters not.  Our sources say that she finally became a believer and loved the Prophet.  The infidels of today say that was not ture.  Either way, it has no effect on whether Islam is the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty or not.  So even if we take their worst case scenario, and that Safiyyah was no more than a slave whom the Prophet married and nothing more, then it still has no effect on Islam and Its Divine Truth.

Again, the doomed-to-Hell Islam-hating infidels have nothing but noise on Islam.  Don't let them penetrate your skin.  Again, visit the following link to see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Also, visit the website's main capsule to THOROUGHLY see how Islam is GOD Almighty's Original Religion to all of mankind, even according to the Bible itself:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah