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WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
« on: March 25, 2014, 01:15:14 pm »
Assalamualykum.

 I was wondering, if dajjal is so important than why Allah didn't say anything about him directly or indirectly in the Quran? Please help me with this.

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 04:56:20 pm »
See friend Quran is not a story book unlike Bible.

I will tell d most important thing for a believer to know about ie., Salah - and some issues related to not mentioned in the Quran

Adhan - what to say while reciting adhan is not mentioned.
Wudhu - mentioned in 5:6 though not completely
How to perform Salah - not mentioned
No of rakah - not mentioned.

So for many thing we have to resort to hadith
As Allah says Quran 47:33 - O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and do not invalidate your deeds.

&

Quran 4 : verse 80 - He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.

Allah has given us a good reason to do that as He said in

Quran 68:4 - And indeed, you are of a great moral character.

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Now tell me what is more important for you to know -
Issues related to Salah from Quran or Knowing of Dajjal from Quran

The reason why Quran didn't mentioned about Salah - though 
offering salah is mentioned several times in Quran
- but how to offer it in way taught by the prophet is a Sunnah to
which Allah himself says to follow the prophet as mentioned in 2 verses above.
If everything would have been mentioned in Quran then he would have said to OBEY the prophet in 47:33.

Issues related to how prophet taught to pray is a bit controversial inspite of the fact that people know
he changed his way of praying as time passed on probably due to certain conditions & some due to his age.

Personally - I dont believe if a person who prays in some different ways TAUGHT IN HADITH ONLY is invalid.

ALSO
Quran has to be comprehensive to include all and every detail  and it will make a Big fat book running into volumes.
Some People today give a lame excuse that they dont have time to read quran and some other shocking reason.

QURAN IS A MUST READ BOOK - ITS A SIGN FOR MEN OF UNDERSTANDING. SO HOW WILL U KNOW IT UNLESS READ IT
WITH UNDERSTANDING.

Only if they would have read the Quran once a book which is not comprehensive and gone through those verses mentioned above. They would have felt a responsibility to read Hadith(which is a bit comprehensive) practice and preach it to others too. As hadith itself says to if u know a bit of knowledge practice and preach it to others .

Also these Why has no ends. If it wud have mentioned  answers to all ur why.
Still others would have asked even more y like - Why cant we see God - Why cant we do this, why cant we do that .......

Also do U know what the christians ask - Why doesnt the bible says anything about dinosaurs!!!

If you are so curious to know about Dajjal then I will post a  article written by me related to it soon Insha Allah

Finally anybody wants to make any correction in this post he is free to do that.

Finally, Allah knows the best

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Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 09:52:39 pm »
Assalamualykum.

 I was wondering, if dajjal is so important than why Allah didn't say anything about him directly or indirectly in the Quran? Please help me with this.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Farhan,

Great question, dear brother.  Like brother Mohammed said, there are things that aren't mentioned in the Holy Quran, but are part of the bigger and more encompassing thing.  Example that the brother gave, from several, is Adhan (the call for Prayer).  It's not mentioned in the Holy Quran, but it is yet mandatory for all Prayers in Islam.

The issues of Mahdi and anti-Christ are like Adhan to Prayer akhi.  They fall under the return of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him.  And Prophet Isa (Jesus) is mentioned to return in the Holy Quran.  He is now in a state of WAFAAT.  This is the same state that you go in when you sleep.  You would then either wake up to a return back to full life, or go to a state of MAWT (death).  Prophet Isa went through a State of Wafaat when he was raised up to Allah Almighty.  But Allah Almighty also mentioned in the Holy Quran that everyone from humans must taste an earthly death.  And there are Noble Verses that also speak about Prophet Jesus will return and then all of the people of the Book will believe in him the Islamic way.

I will give all of the Noble Verses later, Insha'Allah.  This is just a quick response.  So yes, the Mahdi and anti-Christ fall under Prophet Isa in general, akhi.  But as always, Allah Almighty could decide to end life at anytime.  So, the return of Christ in the way it's described to us may not necessarily happen if Allah Almighty Chooses otherwise.  To me, this is the difference between having a clear cut Promise in the Holy Quran from outside the Holy Quran.  Unless Allah Almighty specifically mentions it in the Holy Quran as a Divine Promise, then there is always a possibility for it to not happen.  This is where I stand on the Hadiths when compared to the Holy Quran.  So it's possible that the Mahdi will not come.  I personally believe that the Mahdi will come, from the Hadiths.  But it's always possible that he may not come, because he isn't mentioned in the Holy Quran.

And by the way, we are living in an anti-Christ system today.  And his symbol is the ONE-EYE.  So the Hadiths' End of Times Prophecies are coming True, by Allah Almighty's Will.  Here are some of the powers of the anti-christ that Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, mentioned:

1-  His evil will enter every house.  We see this clearly through the evil media and lewdness and sexuality and pornography from the internet and TV.

2-  He will rule the world.

3-  He is ONE-EYED.

4-  Among the powers that he will have:

(a)-  He will command the sky to rain and it will rain.  Read up on Cloud Fertilization technology today.
(b)-  He will command the earth to quake and it will quake.  Read up on HAARP technology and Weather Modification for Weapons today.
(c)-  He will corrupt the lands and seas of the earth.
(d)-  He will cause for so much deaths throughout earth, so much that a person would not know what the reason of his death.  Deaths will be done by the wholesale on earth.

5-  Also the evil Zionists from the Jews will be supreme on earth, and they will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8.  Many Muslims today believe that we are in the "second" era of the Israelites' evil.  They are reaching Mighty Heights of evil on earth, today.  And we are seeing those rotten filth on their way to ruling the entire earth and dominating all of its financial institutions, wealth and armies, and they're close to establishing their New World Order - One World Government - System.

This is further supported in this Holy Quran Divine Promise from Allah Almighty:

[017:104]  Later, to the children of Israel We said, “Inhabit the earth till the promise of the afterlife is fulfilled. Then, We will bring you out as a crowd (لفيفا).”

‏17:104 وقلنا من بعده لبني اسرائيل اسكنوا الارض فاذا جاء وعد الاخرة جئنا بكم لفيفا

The Jews did inhabit the earth and they are now coming to Palestine from all over the earth in large crowds.  This is the Time of the Second Punishment Prophecy, from the Holy Quran.  But they must first finish their reaching of the "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا of evil on earth.  Look at 9/11 todayIt was 100% an Israeli Mossad operation [1].

And by the way, "....We sent against you Our servants (عبادا لنا) given to terrible warfare...." in Noble Verse 17:5, above, is not just limited to the Muslims.  عبادا لنا in the Holy Quran does also include non-Muslims whom Allah Almighty chose or made to do something.  So the destruction of Israel won't necessarily be done by the Muslims only.  I believe that many nations from earth will rise against them and annihilate them.  To further prove that عباد is not just limited to the Muslims, consider the following Noble Verses that use the Noble Word عباد:

[036:030]  What a pity! These human kinds (العباد)! Their only response to the messengers _ whenever they came to them _ was to mock and make fun of them!

‏36:30 ياحسرة على العباد ماياتيهم من رسول الا كانوا به يستهزؤون


[050:011]  A sustenance for the servants (للعباد), and We give life thereby to a dead land; thus is the rising.

‏50:11 رزقا للعباد واحيينا به بلدة ميتا كذلك الخروج


[017:017]  How many generations have We destroyed after Noah? and enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants (عباده).

‏17:17 وكم اهلكنا من القرون من بعد نوح وكفى بربك بذنوب عباده خبيرا بصيرا


[002:207]  Among people are also those, who would willingly sell themselves out of the desire to please Allah. And of course, Allah is full of compassion for (His) servants (بالعباد).

‏2:207 ومن الناس من يشري نفسه ابتغاء مرضاة الله والله رؤوف بالعباد


[006:088]  Such is the guidance of Allah. He guides whom He wants among His servants (عباده). Had they, (any of the messengers mentioned above) set up partners (with Allah), all their deeds would have come to nothing.

‏6:88 ذلك هدى الله يهدي به من يشاء من عباده ولو اشركوا لحبط عنهم ما كانوا يعملون


6-  Also, mankind will "alter the creation of Allah Almighty" through "cutting the farm animals' ears".  We've already seen this in what we call today Cloning.  And it'll only get worse, and soon man will start cloning mankind.

All of these are Prophecies from the Hadiths and the Glorious Quran.  I will write a big article on this soon, Insha'Allah.  Please also visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.

So, I am not sure how the Mahdi and Christ will come.  Since we already know that the anti-Christ system (not a man) is already in place, and is only getting worse and worse, then will Christ and the Mahdi come in form of men or in forms of Systems, perhaps Spiritual Systems.  Only Allah Almighty Knows.  You see, it was a popular belief among Muslims that the anti-Christ will be a flesh and blood man.  But this flesh and blood man couldn't command the earth to quake and for the sky to rain at his will, nor could he make his evil enter every home.  It is rather the evil Zionist machine system that we live in that is doing that.  Again, they will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  This is straight out of the Holy Quran!  So how will the forces of Good be like?  Will they be flesh and blood?  Or will they be Good Systems that will emerge like the evil system that has emerged and has and is reaching "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth?  Only Allah Almighty Knows.

I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2014, 02:06:27 am »
And keep in mind that Allah is the most wise . There is nothing Allah does without wisdom in it wither we know it or not . If we know , good , if we don't , then that doesn't mean it doesn't exist .

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2014, 04:41:38 am »
Dajjal is metnioned in the quran indirectly, in this verse

On the day when some of the signs of your Lord shall come


6:158...or that some of the Signs of your Lord should come! The day that some of the signs of your Lord do come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good with his faith. Say: "Wait you! We (too) are waiting.")

ibn qasir tafsir
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=942&Itemid=61

Ibn Jarir recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said:

(Three, if they appear, then a soul will not benefit from its faith, if it had not believed before or earned good in its faith: when the sun rises from the west, Ad-Dajjal and the Beast of the earth.)

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 11:08:30 am »
can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2014, 01:37:42 pm »
can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mohammed,

Great question.  I will Insha'Allah add this to this blog's main links on the main page.  The following image is an example from brother "Black Muslim"'s example above:



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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2014, 02:37:25 pm »
Thanks to all of you brothers for your excellent explanation. ;D ;D But still there is a little confusion. If Quran doesn't contain everything, then why Allah said:

 ''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)

 Again Allah said:

 ''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)

 Please help. :-\ :'(

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2014, 03:35:58 pm »
Thanks to all of you brothers for your excellent explanation. ;D ;D But still there is a little confusion. If Quran doesn't contain everything, then why Allah said:

 ''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)

 Again Allah said:

 ''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)

 Please help. :-\ :'(

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Farhan,

Another great question, dear brother!  Keep it up.  Here is the response:

1-  As it was explained above, some of the things, - side things, - were left out of the Holy Quran.  For example, the Prophet, peace be upon him, said that the anti-Christ's sign is that he will be one-eyed.  In fact, the Prophet said that from Noah to Jesus, many Prophets have warned their followers against the anti-Christ, and gave Signs about him.  But there is one Sign that was reserved to me (Muhammad), and ONLY ME, and that is that he will be ONE-EYED:

Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of  which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that  he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.

This Sign wasn't mentioned in the Holy Quran.  But the End of Times Prophecies and the evil Zionists (Israelites) were mentioned, dear brother.  So obviously, this ONE-EYED Sign was left for the details that were to be omitted from the Holy Quran.  The Holy Quran gave highlights and not details, akhi.  This is why the Hadiths are important, and this is also Allah Almighty's Way to tell us that the Hadiths are also to be upheld.

And as to the two Noble Verses that you mentioned above, here is my reply to them:

1-  ''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)

Yes, a clear explanation to everything that has to do with Salvation.  The Holy Quran's Main Concern is about:

(a)-  Obeying Allah Almighty and Worshiping Him the Right Way.
(b)-  Doing Good.
(c)-  Condemning all evil and staying away from it.

In a nutshell, the Holy Quran is concerned about Salvation, akhi.  And yes, everything you need to know about Salvation is in the Holy Quran.  If you want to deep dive into anything, then you use the Hadiths for that, not the Holy Quran.

Furthermore, Allah Almighty did Command the Prophet to detail the Holy Quran.  From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1105.msg5574.html#msg5574:

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Where is the proof for my statement above?

I was asked before how can I substantiate the following statement from the Holy Quran:

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Here is the bottom line:  What agrees with the Holy Quran from the hadiths and also from the Bible and other scriptures is closest to the Truth, but not absolute Truth like the Holy Quran.  And what disagrees with the Holy Quran belongs to the garbage.

Here is the proof from the Holy Quran:

[016:044] (We sent them) with Clear Signs and Books of dark prophecies; and We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them, and that they may give thought.

[004:115] After the guidance has been revealed and explained, if anyone parts his way with the messenger and follows a path different from that of the believers, then We will divert him along his (chosen) path. We will hurl him in the hell (in the hereafter). What a despicable destination!

[006:046] Say, “Have you (ever) considered? What if Allah took away your hearing and your sight, and sealed off your heart? Is there a god besides Allah, who could give you back these senses?” Observe, how We explain the revelations in detail. Yet, they turn away (disdainfully).

[006:055] In this manner, We explain Our revelations in detail, so that the ways of the criminals would become (widely known and) well recognized.

So the real genuine Hadiths that are Quran-Approved are the ones that directly explain and detail the Holy Quran's Commands.  Not every word that came out of the Prophet's mouth is a legitimate Hadith:

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet used to invoke Allah, saying, "Allahumma ighfirli khati'ati wa jahli wa israfi fi amri, wa ma anta a-'lamu bihi minni. Allahumma ighfirli hazali wa jiddi wa khata'i wa amdi, wa kullu dhalika 'indi"

WHICH READS IN ENGLISH AS:

"O Allah! Forgive my mistakes and my ignorance and my exceeding the limit (boundaries) of righteousness in my deeds; and forgive whatever You know better than I. O Allah! Forgive the wrong I have done jokingly or seriously, and forgive my accidental and intentional errors, all that is present in me."
  (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 75, Number 408))

This is why those who say that the Prophet never spoke out of his own desire, and that every word he spoke was an inspiration are all in error.  The following Noble Verses that they use only refer to the Holy Quran's Revelations:

[053:002]  You companion has neither erred, nor has he gone astray,
[053:003]  Nor does he speak out of his own desire.
[053:004]  It is nothing but pure revelation revealed by God.
[053:005]  The Lord of the Mighty Powers has taught him (i.e., Angel Gabriel),


Those who say that Prophet Muhammad was a "Walking Quran", and that every single word he spoke was an inspiration are full of rubbish nonsense.  This is further supported in the following Noble Verse:

[003:159]  It is part of the Mercy of God that thou dost deal gently with them Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (Their faults), and ask for (God's) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment). Then, when thou hast Taken a decision put thy trust in God. For God loves those who put their trust (in Him).

‏3:159 فبما رحمة من الله لنت لهم ولو كنت فظا غليظ القلب لانفضوا من حولك فاعف عنهم واستغفر لهم وشاورهم في الامر فاذا عزمت فتوكل على الله ان الله يحب المتوكلين

Why should the Prophet consult anybody when every word he spoke was a Divine Inspiration or Revelation?  This Noble Verse clearly proves that the Prophet was only inspired at certain fixed times, and not all of the time.  So him not speaking out of his own desire refers to the Holy Quran's Divine Revelations. 

Again, also please visit this very important link: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1105.msg5580.html#msg5580.

Also visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm.



2-  ''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)

Again, this Noble Verse is for Salvation, akhi.  If you wanted the Holy Quran to detail everything in a "deep dive" way, then you'll end up with a book that is probably 10 times bigger than what the current Holy Quran is.  It wouldn't be possible to perfectly preserve the Holy Book then, nor to memorize it.

I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 02:22:30 pm »
 An excellent question & an excellent answer by our Muslim brothers , but one thing i'd like to add to the answer , that everything is mentioned in the Quran , as Allah s.w.t promoses in the ayats of Quran, but these ayats are best explained by none other than our Holy Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) p.b.u.h , so in order to understand the Quran & follow it perfectly you have to follow the Prophet I.e the Hadiths , you have to follow the interpretation
For e.x - when I was in school & used to study english literature we had to read story books & in orde to understand the story properly & to know its summary we had a guide book. So the story book wasn't incomplete without the text book & complete by it's self , but in order to understand it better we needed the guide book , in the same way the holy Quran is complete by it's self but we need the Hadiths to understand it fully & properly

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 02:31:03 pm »
Hello brother Farhan, you have asked a good question and that is the same question that I asked.

I am in a strong disagreement with many posters in this forum, but I don't have the tiem to start another debate. I just wanted to post here and remind everyone of ONE Quranic verse (that is all it takes), that removes this entire hadith scene. There are many, but, this one is enough by itself.


(Quran 45:6) These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement other than Allah and His verses will they believe?

Let's break this verse down. The beginning of the verse talks about the Quran. THESE are the verses of Allah in which we recite to you in truth. It is speaking of the Quran. You MUST agree with this as any honest person would. A sentence later, Allah tells you in what statement other than THESE verses will YOU believe? That clearly means that the message include ONLY these verses. Nothing else.

What does that verse tell you??!!!! Does that sound like Allah wants you to follow something else besides these verses (Quran). How could any honest person possibly say so!!! I don't understand!

Does this verse seriously leave any room for hadith (an alternate revelation)??

There is no Dajjal. BlackMuslim's double facepalm picture is an embarrassment to Islam and this forum. Please do not engage in actions like this.

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2014, 02:18:57 am »


"I don't want to start another debate" huh ? The only embarrassment is in your inability to understand basic logic of 1-2-3 . Also in your cowardice of not answering whatever kills your claims shoving it aside as if it's nothing and then ranting "The verse is clear ! You're unwilling !" . Yeah yeah , call it emotional rant . As if saying I'm an embarrassment is most logical .

I put the picture because Farhan keeps asking for things which he could easily find an answer to with a google search or through basic Islamic knowledge yet he doesn't . The point is to learn instead of marching unto slanders which will only cast doubt into his heart .

The problem is that you took rejecting Sunnah as a doctrine , THEN went on to explain things to match with that doctrine . That's why when we bring a number of signs saying to obey the prophet you go to unbelievable lengths to twist their meaning so it doesn't contradict that doctrine .

Enough said .
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 01:16:09 pm »
Assalamualykum.


 Thanks to all for your answers. And brother mclinkin, you can't just say there is nothing called Dajjal. ??? ??? As brother Osama mentioned, Dajjal might not be an individual but a system which is operating in our present world.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2014, 12:12:39 pm »


"I don't want to start another debate" huh ? The only embarrassment is in your inability to understand basic logic of 1-2-3 . Also in your cowardice of not answering whatever kills your claims shoving it aside as if it's nothing and then ranting "The verse is clear ! You're unwilling !" . Yeah yeah , call it emotional rant . As if saying I'm an embarrassment is most logical .

I put the picture because Farhan keeps asking for things which he could easily find an answer to with a google search or through basic Islamic knowledge yet he doesn't . The point is to learn instead of marching unto slanders which will only cast doubt into his heart .

The problem is that you took rejecting Sunnah as a doctrine , THEN went on to explain things to match with that doctrine . That's why when we bring a number of signs saying to obey the prophet you go to unbelievable lengths to twist their meaning so it doesn't contradict that doctrine .

Enough said .

Your perceptions of me do not fit. We have been discussing this thing for a while and we get nowhere. Sometimes it is best to leave those who are disbelievers in the Quran alone. They will never believe in Allah's word.

 It is made clear that there is no other source of revelation besides the Quran. Allah did not authorize anything besides the Quran and he made it clear that the Quran is fully detailed. He has made it clear that you are not to follow any other statement except THESE verses (Quran).

”Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” The Word of your Lord is complete in truth and in justice” 6:115

Does that sound like Allah wanted you to use an external source given that the Quran is fully detailed and complete. HOw about these verses:

”This is not fabricated ‘hadith’; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a guidance and mercy for those who believe” 12:111
”We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance and mercy and good news for the submitters” 16:89


In spite of the very clear words: “fully detailed”, “details of everything” and “explanations for everything” the corrupt interpreters such as yourself somehow still claim that the Quran does not include all the details pertaining to Islam! Sadly, you claim that the Quran has only mentioned the major outlines of the religion while as the details of everyday rituals are only to be found in the Hadith and Sunna!

These false claims only go to expose your people’s ignorance of the Quran, and also your kufr. Yes, you are a kaffir.

Quran 45:6 These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement other than Allah and His verses will they believe?

Let's break this verse down. The beginning of the verse talks about the Quran. THESE are the verses of Allah in which we recite to you in truth. It is speaking of the Quran. You MUST agree with this as any honest person would. A sentence later, Allah tells you in what statement other than THESE verses will YOU believe? That clearly means that the message include ONLY these verses. Nothing else.

What does that verse tell you??!!!! Does that sound like Allah wants you to follow something else besides these verses (Quran). How could any honest person possibly say so!!! I don't understand!

The verse that come immediately after is:

(Quran 45:7-8)  Woe to every sinful liar, Who hears the verses of Allah recited to him, then persists arrogantly as if he had not heard them. So give him tidings of a painful punishment. And when he knows anything of Our verses, he takes them in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment.


You are being tested by Allah as we speak. Are you a sinful liar who hears the clear verses of Allah and then you persist arrogantly as if you had not heard them? Yes, you are. That makes you a disbeliever.