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Re: How to Convince hadith Rejecters?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 04:32:04 PM »
I take it nobody has read what I put , as you are all clear advocates of hadith over that of the Quran.
I did post the history of hadiths and it has been taken off.
Allah states quite clearly that it is the Quran that we should follow. And Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, made it quite clear he did not want hadiths written about his lifestyle, as he knew they would become more important than the Quran.

What I suggest people should do is check out the hadiths for your selves and see if they are in line with the Quran

..............prayer in Quran is 2 rakats only,,,,hadiths state this too..........so where is it stated that you pray four and three and twenty odd in ramadam??? who told you that??

zakat is 10% in Quran and Hadiths also.....so where do you get 2.5% from...other than a fabricated hadith, which so obvious and plain to see.

I follow hadiths, but only the ones in line with Quran.

Do not follow blindly as Allah instructs us also not to do this, as hadiths and practices are full of corruption and innovations. These text books of faith and Islam are full of innovations that are leading people astray and away from Allah, and worse are making you commit shirk.

Quran is your only one true guide.

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Re: How to Convince hadith Rejecters?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 06:16:14 PM »
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I did post the history of hadiths and it has been taken off.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Yaz,

Sorry about that dear brother.  It wasn't taken off on purpose.  When this blog went down and was restored, the posts that were made on the day you posted it were not recovered.

I hope this didn't cause much inconvenience.  Feel free to post your thoughts.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: How to Convince hadith Rejecters?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2015, 04:56:49 AM »
Thats ok QuransearchCom, but what I will write hear is the REMINDER FROM THE QURAN....concerning the hadiths...

A note first though,,,,the Quran is a reminder, a confirmation of the books revealed before time, that is the Torah and the Bible. Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him and his family,  came as only a warner of the reminder, the Quran to the Jews and the Christians, to follow their books and implement the teachings within their books. And if any where to believe in the Quran, and submit as a submitter ( to Islam ) then so be it. After all it is mentioned that the Jews and Christians would know the truth of the Quran as they would of read similar to that in their own books. But too is the mention of the Jews and Christians changing the words of their books.
And as Muhammad,peace and blessings be upon him and his family, would teach these Jews, they would be the first ones to write the hadiths in his presence, as so called believers, though they really secretly disbelieved, then would change the hadiths after they left Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him and his family. So now to what Allah states in the Quran..........

Have ye any hope that they will be true to you when a party of them used to listen to the word of Allah, then used to change it, after they had understood it, knowingly?  And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe. But when they go apart one with another they say: Prate ye to them of that which Allah hath disclosed to you that they may contend with you before your Lord concerning it? Have ye then no sense? 2:75-76

 Seest thou not those unto whom a portion of the Scripture hath been given, how they purchase error, and seek to make you (Muslims) err from the right way?  Allah knoweth best (who are) your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. Some of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: "We hear and disobey; hear thou as one cannot be made hear not" and "Listen to us!" distorting with their tongues and slandering religion. If they had said: "We hear and we obey: hear thou, and look at us" it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few. 4;44-46

 Hast thou not seen those who pretend that they believe in that which is revealed unto thee and that which was revealed before thee, how they would go for judgment (in their disputes) to false deities when they have been ordered to abjure them? Satan would mislead them far astray. (60) And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah hath revealed and unto the messenger, thou seest the hypocrites turn from thee with aversion. 4:60-61

And they say: (It is) obedience; but when they have gone forth from thee a party of them spend the night in planning other than what thou sayest. Allah recordeth what they plan by night. So oppose them and put thy trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as Trustee.  Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity. 4;81-82

 Lo! those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers, and seek to make distinction between Allah and His messengers, and say: We believe in some and disbelieve in others, and seek to choose a way in between; 4;150

And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts. They change words from their context and forget a part of that whereof they were admonished. Thou wilt not cease to discover treachery from all save a few of them. But bear with them and pardon them. Lo! Allah loveth the kindly.  And with those who say: "Lo! we are Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefor We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork. O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you, expounding unto you much of that which ye used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. Now hath come unto you light from Allah and plain Scripture,  Whereby Allah guideth him who seeketh His good pleasure unto paths of peace. He bringeth them out of darkness unto light by His decree, and guideth them unto a straight path.  They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. Say: Who then can do aught against Allah, if He had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and everyone on earth? Allah's is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He createth what He will. And Allah is Able to do all things.  The Jews and Christians say: We are sons of Allah and His loved ones. Say: Why then doth He chastise you for your sins? Nay, ye are but mortals of His creating. He forgiveth whom He will, and chastiseth whom He will. Allah's is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and unto Him is the journeying.  O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you to make things plain unto you after an interval (of cessation) of the messengers, lest ye should say: There came not unto us a messenger of cheer nor any warner. Now hath a messenger of cheer and a warner come unto you. Allah is Able to do all things. 5:13-19

Thus have We appointed unto every prophet an adversary - devils of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising; 6:112

Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers. (114) Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. 6:114-115

And when Our revelations are recited unto them, thou knowest the denial in the faces of those who disbelieve; they all but attack those who recite Our revelations unto them. Say: Shall I proclaim unto you worse than that? The Fire! Allah hath promised it for those who disbelieve. A hapless journey's end! 22:72

When the hypocrites come unto thee (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah's messenger. And Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the Hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely.  They make their faith a pretext so that they may turn (men) from the way of Allah. Verily evil is that which they are wont to do. 63;1-2