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A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« on: December 14, 2015, 10:24:34 AM »
SALAM ALEIKUM BROTHERS, THIS PAGE:

http://christianitybeliefs.org/islam-in-bible-prophecy/the-creation-of-the-koran/

That the Qur'an was made by the catholics, the agustinian monks, who said that the mother of the virgin had also a miraculous conception, they say that the Qiran was given to Muhammad for he was from the Quraish, and they also say that Muhammad studied the works of St. Agustine through Waraqqa and Jadiyya, who according to them was a devote of the Catholicism and was intercepted to say to Muhammad all the Christianity, that articule also say that the monks expanded the idea of a new prophet and that was the reason for which several peoples coverte, and to finish they also say that Muhammad saw, in Hira, to Satan, because he hold Muhammad very strong, and that (according to them) are demons and no the Angel Gabriel. Is there a refutation for this? THANKS AND SALAM ALEIKUM.

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Re: A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 06:00:19 AM »
Waraqa is not Hellenistic influenced Christian that adhere to the 4 'cannon' gospels in either Greek or Syriac.  
Hellenistic Christianity is a belief of human looking gods in heaven, that impregnate women on earth to produce divine sons of god. Basically they incorporate the greek culture onto the Israelite God Yhwh. And render Yhwh as a fatherly looking old man with white beard in heaven.

Waraqa's belief was monotheistic. He could be an Ebionite since he utilised aramaic gospel in hebrew alphabets.

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Re: A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 07:54:47 PM »
Salam Aleikum Brother, I wanted to know this, the origin and beliefs of Waraqa, and the influences that he had on Muhammad, his nephew, Is possible that somebody say to Prophet Muhammad the contain of the gospels of Waraqa? Did he use the arab or the hebrew? The two sahihs differs in this, Bukhari and Muslim. THANKS

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Re: A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 11:31:28 PM »
Waraqa was using hebrew alphabet gospel and explain the contents in arab.
First century a.d. Jewish Ebionites/Nasoreans were accepted by Jews to pray in their temple as their belief are monotheism.

If the triune Helenistic Christians were to exist in 1st century, they were certainly not be accepted by the Jews to use their temple.
The Greek/Syriac version of Christianity are new sect as their 26 books were only selected and compiled in 4th century to produce the New Testament.

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Re: A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 07:25:40 PM »
Salam Aleikum Brother Submit, that is just the problem, because if Waraqa was Ebinoistic he did not believe that Jesus was God or the Son of God, because the Ebionistics did not believe that; and for them that is just the origin of the doctrine of Muhammad.

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Re: A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 09:07:09 PM »
If they claim that Quran was made by Jewish Ebionites, then the idea of Quran made by/for Catholics or any Helenistic Christianity sects no longer hold merits.

As Helenistic Christianity declared Jewish Ebionites and early century Nasoreans as heretics.

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Re: A PAGE SAYS THAT THE QURAN WAS MADE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 03:13:25 PM »
Yes brother submit, you have reason, they were not part of the Catholic Church.