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Re: someone needs to refute this
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2015, 01:29:09 AM »
Muhammed (pbuh) might have received revelation. But could it not havebeen Satanic revelations?

It has been Christian critics who have alleged that the revelation received by Muhammad(pbuh) were, in fact, from the Satan himself. It has been the endeavour of the Christian writers like C.D. Fander, Claire Tisdal, Joshmach Dowell, John Gilchrist and G. Nehless to expose the revelations received by Muhammad (pbuh) as being the insinuations of the Devil. They advocate the idea that it had been the attempt of the Devil to confine man within the pitfalls of sin by way of denying the cruicifixion of Jesus Christ and the atonement of sin through it, that stands behind the verses of the Qur'an. Can the Devil infest the human body? Can a person be afflicted with disease owing to his possession by the Devil? Will a person possessed by the Devil have the experience of revelation? Such discussions are irrelevant here. By the dictum of the Bible, then, let us consider the disorders that manifest themselves in the person possessed by the Devil :

1. Screaming aloud owing to the affliction of the brain (Mark 1:24, Luke 9:39, John 10:20)

2. Suicidal tendency (Mathew 9,18:17, 15:32, Mark 5:13, Luke 8:33)

3. Tendency to walk naked (Luke 8:2, 8:35)

4. To be pushed aside by the Devil (Mathew 17:15, Mark 1:26, 9:18, 9:20, 9:26)

5. Dumbness (Mark 9:25, 9:32, 12:22, Luke 11:14)

6. Deafness (Mark 9:25)

7. Blindness (Mathew 12:22)

8. To see that which others do not and to know that which others don’t (Mark 1:24, Luke 4:3, Mathew 8:29)

None of the symptoms of the one possessed by the Devil, which are described in the Bible, is seen in the person of Muhammad(pbuh). One of the evidences cited by those who allege that Muhammad (pbuh) was possessed by the Devil has been his own statement that the Divine revelation sometimes came to him in the form of the ringing of a bell and that that form of revelation was the hardest for him. Another evidence cited has been the saying of Aysha (r), the wife of the prophet, that she saw beads of perspiration on the forehead of the prophet when the revelation came upon him on a very cold day. Here, there is an important question that is to be considered. Does the Bible say, in any place, that the one possessed by the Devil feels the ringing of a bell in his ears or that his forehead is dampened with the wetness of perspiration even in extreme cold? If it does not, then what, indeed, is the basis on which the followers of the Bible allege satanic possession against the prophet?

Those who say that the Divine message received by the prophet was the production of a Devilish possession, are, in fact, actually forced to say that their own holy men are themselves possessed by the Devil.
‘St. Paul’ had been the one who had actively laboured to destroy Jesus as well as the ideas that he taught (Acts of the Apostles 9:1, 26:10, 8:1) as long as he remained on the earth, after which it was that he came forward with the claim that Christ had appeared to him in a vision. Observe the description in the Bible of the way in which he had received this vision of Christ: "As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?’
‘Who are you, Lord ?’ Saul asked. ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.’ He replied. ‘Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.’

The men travelling with Saul stood there speechless, they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything." (Acts of the Apostles 9:3-9)

We have seen that the Bible indicates the falling down to the ground, seeing that which others do not see and hearing that which others do not hear as being the symptoms of a devilish possession. In the incident wherein Paul claimed that he saw Christ, he had experienced all these symptoms too. But will the Christian world accept it if it was now claimed that Paul himself had been possessed of the Devil? The Christian critics will never be able to produce even a single shred of evidence from the Bible to conclusively assert that Muhammad(pbuh) was possesed by the Devil. On the other hand, however, it can be shown, using the Bible, that Paul, the real founder of the present-day Christian faith, had been subjected to the insinuations of the Satan. Then who is it, now, who is actually possessed of by the Devil ?

Now, examine the very corner-stone of the Christian allegation that the Qur'an had come to be written because of the Satanic influences that moved Muhammad(pbuh). After all, it has been only because of the Qur'anic denunciation of the concept of salvation through the crucifixion of Jesus Christ that the Qur'an has been alleged to be a satanic creation. What, then, is the reality? Both Christians and Muslims believe that Jesus was of a pure and unblemished character. Both groups are agreed upon the fact that he had been appointed of by God, Almighty Himself. Further still, both affirm that he was not possessed by the Devil. If such is the case, then why should we not compare the teachings of Jesus Christ with those of Paul and Muhammad(pbuh) in order to analyze as to who it was - Paul or Muhammad(pbuh) - who was afflicted by the insinuations of the Satan. For any person in receipt of a revelation from the Devil must, of a necessity, be an enemy of Jesus; going by the consideration that the antagonist of a messenger from God will naturally be the antagonist of the message that he conveys.

Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the prophets" (Mathew 5:17)

The Qur'an says, "It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light." (5:44)

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (Sent) to you, confirming the Taurat (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’" (61:6)

Paul had written, "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law." (Galatians 3:13)

"By abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations." (Ephesians 2:15)

Jesus said that he came not to destroy the law; the Qur'an, too, says the same. As for Paul, he contends that Jesus had come to save the world from the law. Who indeed, is the one receiving the revelation of Satan here?

Jesus Christ had never taught that he was God. (Mark 12:29, Mathew 4:10). The Qur'an, too, reiterates this beyond the shadow of a doubt. (3:51). But Paul had stated thus, "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with, God something to be grasped." (Philippians 2:6) and "He is the image of the invisible God, the first born over all creation." (Colossians 1:15). Jesus had never received any revelation that stated that he himself was God. Even if he did receive such a revelation, he would certainly have made it known. But Paul seems to have received a ‘revelation’ declaring Jesus to be God. Whence, indeed, must that ‘revelation’ have proceeded ?

The Bible described the circumcision as a covenant which God had made with Abraham. The Lord had instructed Abraham about the circumcision as follows: "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generation to come.’" (Genesis 17:9-14). The Bible quotes God as having told Moses, "‘On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised.’" (Leviticus 12:3). Jesus, too, had observed this divine commandment: "On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him ....." (Luke 2:21) Jesus had never instructed anyone against the circumcision. This had been for the simple reason that he had never received such a revelation in the first place. But observe what Paul says: ".... if you let yourselves be circumcised Christ will be of no value to you at all." (Galatians 5:2). Whence did Paul receive this ‘revelation’ ? Of a certainty, not from God. If not, then where from indeed?

The major reason behind the allegation that Muhammad(pbuh) had his revelations from the Devil has been that the Qur'an refuted the crucifixion and salvation of humanity through the sacrifice of a single individual. There are numerous verses in the Qur'an wherein Jesus and his mother have been praised and have found the most reverential mention. It may also be remembered that Maryam has been the only woman to be referred by name in the Qur'an. The Qur'an further describes even the miracle wrought through Jesus which has not been recorded in the Bible like his having breathed life into birds of clay (3:49). The incident wherein the baby Jesus had spoken from his cradle which the Qur'an describes (19:30) is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. There is nothing in the Qur'an that serve to tarnish the pure character of Jesus. Here it is especially relevant that according to the Gospel of John, the first miracle of Christ had been that he had produced wine at a marriage function in Cana (John 2:1-11). There is, however, no such reference in the Qur'an.

The Biblical concept has been that "... anyone who is hung on a tree is under God’s curse." (Deuteronomy 21:23). The Jews had thought that they had had Jesus accursed by way of impaling him onto the cross. Paul, too, says the same thing. "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.’" (Galatians 3:13). It follows from this that the crucifixion has only served to make of Jesus an accursed person. But the Qur'an does not accept the idea that Jesus had become so accursed for the sins of the whole world. What is it to believe that God never heard the prayer of Jesus which he made in order that he be saved from the accursed wooden cross (Mathew 29:39) other than the very rejection of Divine mercy itself ? The Qur'an, however, teaches that God had, by way of saving Jesus from the accursed wooden cross, destroyed the plot of the Jews. (4:157,158)

The Jews contend that Jesus had become accursed by way of his being impaled upon the cross.

Paul contends that Jesus had become accursed by way of his dying upon the cross.

The Qur'an contends that God saved the chaste Jesus from the cross.

Which among these is the revelation of the Satan? Is it the one which magnifies Jesus or is it the one which makes of him an accursed person?
In short, therefore, the stark reality has been that those who strive to produce proofs to the effect that the Qur'an’s has been a satanic revelation, have kept falling into the pitfalls of their own making.

 

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Re: someone needs to refute this
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2015, 01:31:12 AM »
PROPHET MUHAMMAD [SA] BEING TRUSTFUL PROPHET

46: 8. Or say they: "He (Muhammad SAW) has fabricated it." Say: "If I have fabricated it, still you have no power to support me against Allâh. He knows best of what you say among yourselves concerning it (i.e. this Qur'ân)! Sufficient is He for a witness between me and you! And He is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful."
 9. Say (O Muhammad SAW):"I am not a new thing among the Messengers (of Allâh) (i.e. I am not the first Messenger) nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am but a plain warner."
10. Say: "Tell me! If this (Qur'ân) is from Allâh, and you deny it, and a witness from among the Children of Israel ('Abdullâh bin Salâm )testifies that this Qur'ân is from Allâh [like the Taurât (Torah)], so he believed (embraced Islâm) while you are too proud (to believe)." Verily! Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists, disbelievers and wrong-doing).
10: 15. And when Our Clear Verses are recited unto them, those who hope not for their meeting with Us, say: Bring us a Qur'ân other than this, or change it."Say (O Muhammad SAW): "It is not for me to change it on my own accord; I only follow that which is revealed unto me. Verily, I fear if I were to disobey my Lord, the torment of the Great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."
10: 15. And when Our Clear Verses are recited unto them, those who hope not for their meeting with Us, say: Bring us a Qur'ân other than this, or change it."Say (O Muhammad SAW): "It is not for me to change it on my own accord; I only follow that which is revealed unto me. Verily, I fear if I were to disobey my Lord, the torment of the Great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."
11: 13. Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad SAW) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged Sûrah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allâh (to your help), if you speak the truth!"
14. If then they answer you not, know then that the Revelation (this Qur'ân) is sent down with the Knowledge of Allâh and that Lâ ilâha illa Huwa: (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! Will you then be Muslims (those who submit to Islâm)?
3:3. It is He Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'ân) to you (Muhammad SAW) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).
69:43. This is the Revelation sent down from the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
44. And if he (Muhammad SAW) had forged a false saying concerning Us .
45. We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might),
36:2. By the Qur'ân, full of wisdom (i.e. full of laws, evidences, and proofs),
3. Truly, you (O Muhammad SAW) are one of the Messengers,
4. On a Straight Path (i.e. on Allâh's religion of Islâmic Monotheism).
5. (This is) a Revelation sent down by the All¬Mighty, the Most Merciful,
60: 40. That this is verily the word of an honoured Messenger [i.e. Jibrael (Gabriel) or Muhammad SAW which he has brought from Allâh].
41. It is not the word of a poet, little is that you believe!
42. Nor is it the word of a soothsayer (or a foreteller), little is that you remember!
43. This is the Revelation sent down from the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
44. And if he (Muhammad SAW) had forged a false saying concerning Us .
45. We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might),
46. And then certainly should have cut off his life artery (Aorta),
47. And none of you could withhold Us from (punishing) him.
48. And verily, this Qur'ân is a Reminder for the Muttaqûn (pious)
49. And verily, We know that there are some among you that belie (this Qur'ân).
50. And indeed it (this Qur'ân) will be an anguish for the disbelievers (on the Day of Resurrection).
51. And Verily, it (this Qur'ân) is an absolute truth with certainty .
27: 6. And verily, you (O Muhammad SAW) are receiving the Qur'ân from the One, All-Wise, All-Knowing.
25:4. those who disbelieve say: "This (the Qur'ân) is nothing but a lie that he (Muhammad SAW) has invented, and others have helped him at it, so that they have produced an unjust wrong (thing) and a lie."
32:2. The revelation of the Book (this Qur'ân) is from the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists) in which there is no doubt! 3. Or say they: "He (Muhammad SAW) has fabricated it?" Nay, it is the truth from your Lord, that you may warn a people to whom no warner has come before you (O Muhammad SAW), in order that they may be guided.
5: 48. And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'ân) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allâh has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allâh willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allâh; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.
63:1…….. ." Allâh knows that you are indeed His Messenger and Allâh bears witness that the hypocrites are liars indeed..
53:2. your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred.
3. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
4. It is only an Inspiration that is inspired.
5. He has been taught (this Qur'ân) by one mighty in power [Jibrael (Gabriel)].
53: 10. So did (Allâh) convey the Inspiration to His slave [Muhammad SAW through Jibrael (Gabriel) ].
6: 57. Say (O Muhammad SAW): "I am on clear proof from my Lord (Islâmic Monotheism), but you deny (the truth that has come to me from Allâh). I have not gotten what you are asking for impatiently (the torment). The decision is only for Allâh, He declares the truth, and He is the Best of judges."
18: 1. All the praises and thanks be to Allâh, Who has sent down to His slave (Muhammad SAW) the Book (the Qur'ân), and has not placed therein any crookedness.
2. (He has made it) Straight to give warning (to the disbelievers) of a severe punishment from Him, and to give glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a fair reward (i.e. Paradise).
48: 28. He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâm), that He may make it (Islâm) superior over all religions. And All-Sufficient is Allâh as a Witness.
69: 38. So I swear by what you see
39. And what you do not see
40. [That] indeed, it [i.e., the Quran] is the word of a noble
Messenger.
41. And it is not the word of a poet; little do you believe.
42. Nor the word of a soothsayer; little do you remember.
43. [It is] a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
44. And if he [i.e., Muúammad[sa]] had made up about Us some [false]
sayings,
45. We would have seized him by the right hand;
46. Then We would have cut from him the aorta.
47. And there is no one of you who could prevent [Us] from him.
48. And indeed, it [i.e., the Quran] is a reminder for the righteous……….
51. And Verily, it (this Qur'ân) is an absolute truth with certainty.

75: 17. It is for Us to collect it and to give you (O Muhammad SAW) the ability to recite it (the Qur'ân),
18. And when We have recited it to you [O Muhammad SAW through Jibrael (Gabriel)], then follow you its (the Qur'ân's) recital.
19. Then it is for Us (Allâh) to make it clear to you,

80: 11. No! Indeed, they [i.e., these verses] are a reminder;
12. So whoever wills may remember it.
13. [It is recorded] in honored sheets,
14. Exalted and purified,
15. [Carried] by the hands of messenger-angels,
16. Noble and dutiful.
81: 19. Verily, this is the Word (this Qur'ân brought by) a most honorable messenger [Jibrael (Gabriel), from Allâh to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)].
20. Owner of power, and high rank with (Allâh) the Lord of the Throne,
21. Obeyed (by the angels), trustworthy there (in the heavens).
22. And (O people) your companion (Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) is not a madman;
23. And indeed he (Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) saw him [Jibrael (Gabriel)] in the clear horizon (towards the east).
24. And he (Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) withholds not a knowledge of the unseen.
25. And it (the Qur'ân) is not the word of the outcast Shaitân (Satan).
85: 21. Nay! This is a Glorious Qur'ân,
22. (Inscribed) in Al-Lauh Al-Mahfûz (The Preserved Tablet)!
87: 6. We shall make you to recite (the Qur'ân), so you (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) shall not forget (it),
43: 4. And Verily, it (this Qur'ân) is in the Mother of the Book (i.e. Al-Lauh Al-Mahfûz), before Us, indeed Exalted, full of Wisdom.
53: 2. Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred.
52: 33. Or do they say: "He (Muhammad SAW) has forged it (this Qur'ân)?" Nay! They believe not!
34. Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur'ân) if they are truthful.
37. Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?
18: 27. And recite what has been revealed to you (O Muhammad SAW) of the Book (the Qur'ân) of your Lord (i.e. recite it, understand and follow its teachings and act on its orders and preach it to men). None can change His Words, and none will you find as a refuge other than Him.
10: 15. And when Our Clear Verses are recited unto them, those who hope not for their meeting with Us, say: Bring us a Qur'ân other than this, or change it."Say (O Muhammad SAW): "It is not for me to change it on my own accord; I only follow that which is revealed unto me. Verily, I fear if I were to disobey my Lord, the torment of the Great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."
10: 37. And this Qur'ân is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allâh (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurât (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns,and all that exists).
38. Or do they say: "He (Muhammad SAW) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a Sûrah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can, besides Allâh, if you are truthful!"
11: 13. Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad SAW) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged Sûrah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allâh (to your help), if you speak the truth!"
26: 192. And truly, this (the Qur'ân) is a revelation from the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists),
193. Which the trustworthy Rûh [Jibrael (Gabriel)] has brought down;
194. Upon your heart (O Muhammad SAW) that you may be (one) of the warners,
27: 6. And verily, you (O Muhammad SAW) are receiving the Qur'ân from the One, All-Wise, All-Knowing.
52. Say (to them O Muhammad SAW): "Sufficient is Allâh for a witness between me and you. He knows what is in the heavens and on earth." And those who believe in Bâtil (all false deities other than Allâh), and disbelieve in Allâh and (in His Oneness), it is they who are the losers.
32: 2. The revelation of the Book (this Qur'ân) is from the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists) in which there is not doubt!
3. Or say they: "He (Muhammad SAW) has fabricated it?" Nay, it is the truth from your Lord, that you may warn a people to whom no warner has come before you (O Muhammad SAW), in order that they may be guided.
29: 48. Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Qur'ân), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted.

DIVINITY OF QURAN

4:82. Do they not then consider the Qur'ân carefully? Had it been from other than Allâh, they would surely have found therein much contradiction.
5: 68. Say (O Muhammad SAW) "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! You have nothing (as regards guidance) till you act according to the Taurât (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), and what has (now) been sent down to you from your Lord (the Qur'ân)." Verily, that which has been sent down to you (Muhammad SAW) from your Lord increases in many of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. So be not sorrowful over the people who disbelieve.
10: 37. And this Qur'ân is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allâh (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurât (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns,and all that exists).
5:16. Wherewith Allâh guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islâmic Monotheism).
25:66. Say: "It (this Qur'ân) has been sent down by Him (Allâh) (the Real Lord of the heavens and earth) Who knows the secret of the heavens and the earth. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
5:3………….This day, those who disbelieved have given up all hope of your religion, so fear them not, but fear Me. This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islâm as your religion. But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin (such can eat these above-mentioned meats), then surely, Allâh is Oft¬Forgiving, Most Merciful.
17: 9. Verily, this Qur'ân guides to that which is most just and right and gives glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allâh and His Messenger, Muhammad SAW, etc.). who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a great reward (Paradise).
54: 40, 54:32 ,54:22 and indeed, we have made the Qur'ân easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember (or receive admonition)?
17: 88. Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'ân, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another."
8: 32. And (remember) when they said: "O Allâh! If this (the Qur'ân) is indeed the truth (revealed) from You, then rain down stones on us from the sky or bring on us a painful torment."
4: 82. Do they not then consider the Qur'ân carefully? Had it been from other than Allâh, they would surely have found therein many contradictions.
5: 16. Wherewith Allâh guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way
7: 203. And if you do not bring them a miracle [according to their (i.e. Quraish-pagans') proposal], they say: "Why have you not brought it?" Say: "I but follow what is revealed to me from my Lord. This (the Qur'ân) is nothing but evidences from your Lord, and a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe."
13: 39. Allâh blots out what He wills and confirms (what He wills). And with Him is the Mother of the Book (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfûz)
17: 88. Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'ân, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another."
25: 6. Say: "It (this Qur'ân) has been sent down by Him (Allâh) (the Real Lord of the heavens and earth) Who knows the secret of the heavens and the earth. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
49. Nay, but they, the clear Ayât [i.e the description and the qualities of Prophet Muhammad SAW written like verses in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] are preserved in the breasts of those who have been given knowledge (from the people of the Scriptures). And none but the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrongdoers, etc.) deny Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.).
50. And they say: "Why are not signs sent down to him from his Lord? Say: "The signs are only with Allâh, and I am only a plain warner."
51. Is it not sufficient for them that We have sent down to you the Book (the Qur'ân) which is recited to them? Verily, herein is mercy and a reminder (or an admonition) for a people who believe.
40: 2. The revelation of the Book (this Qur'ân) is from Allâh the All-Mighty, the All-Knower.
41: 2. A revelation from Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
41: 42. Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it (it is) sent down by the All-Wise, Worthy of all praise (Allâh ÚÒ æ Ìá).
42: 17. It is Allâh Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'ân) in truth, and the Balance (i.e. to act justly). And what can make you know that perhaps the Hour is close at hand?
43: 3. We verily, have made it a Qur'ân in Arabic, that you may be able to understand (its meanings and its admonitions).
4. And Verily, it (this Qur'ân) is in the Mother of the Book (i.e. Al-Lauh Al-Mahfûz), before Us, indeed Exalted, full of Wisdom.
45: 2. The revelation of the Book (this Qur'ân) is from Allâh, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
46: 2. The revelation of the Book (this Qur'ân) is from Allâh, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
55: 1. The Most Beneficent (Allâh)! 2. Has taught (you mankind) the Qur'ân (by His Mercy).
56: 77. That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur'ân).
78. In a Book well-guarded (with Allâh in the heaven i.e. Al-Lauh Al-Mahfûz).
79. Which (that Book with Allâh) none can touch but the purified (i.e. the angels).
80. A Revelation (this Qur'ân) from the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
13: 11. For each (person), there are angels in succession, before and behind him. They guard him by the Command of Allâh. Verily! Allâh will not change the good condition of a people as long as they do not change their state of goodness themselves (by committing sins and by being ungrateful and disobedient to Allâh). But when Allâh wills a people's punishment, there can be no turning back of it, and they will find besides Him no protector.
42:52, 45:16, 46:12, 47:20, 52:2-3, 57:16, 57:25, 57:26, 66:12, 74:31, 74:52, 98:1, 98:4, 98:6

Quran not from Satan:
81: 25. And it (the Qur'ân) is not the word of the outcast Shaitân (Satan).
26: 210. And it is not the Shayâtin (devils) who have brought it (this Qur'ân) down,
211. Neither would it suit them, nor they can (produce it).
212. Verily, they have been removed far from hearing it.


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Re: someone needs to refute this
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2015, 04:29:20 AM »
Below are a series of verses from the Quran, that talk about the Jews in the time of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing be upon him and his family. They were the Jews that said they claimed to convert to Islam, and were the first writers of the hadiths.
 Anyone who makes such accusations against Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him and his family, are protecting their own satanic beliefs, and want Jesus to remain a divine person, even though they secretly do not believe this not to be, but want the masses to believe it. This is what Christianity is built on, nothing more. Jesus is the symbol of Salvation. A muslim to dare to contavene this created structure by mankind dares to try to destroy the faith and its teachings, all be it man made.!!! And the Bible was altered in accordance to promote this idea. This is none other than the work of the human devils and the Satans themselves to discredit Islam, the true religion of Allah. ...6:112
If we can understand the reasoning behind this Salvation concept, you will find it has to do with the Dejjal. As the Dejjal is the false Messiah, or the Liar Messiah, who in fact will claim to be God, then claim to be the Messiah ( Jesus ) himself. And it is the false Messiah that the human devils and the satans and satanic Jews are waiting for. For the concept or Jesus return is vital, and for him to of died for Salvation is crucial to Dejjals plans, and to be believed and followed again by the Christians and the satanic Jews. Also .....you must know that Dejjal is none other than Satan himself....the great deceiver.

Seest thou not those unto whom a portion of the Scripture hath been given, how they purchase error, and seek to make you (Muslims) err from the right way?  Allah knoweth best (who are) your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. Some of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: "We hear and disobey; hear thou as one cannot be made hear not" and "Listen to us!" distorting with their tongues and slandering religion. If they had said: "We hear and we obey: hear thou, and look at us" it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.  O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given! Believe in what We have revealed confirming that which ye possess, before We destroy countenances so as to confound them, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers (of old time). The commandment of Allah is always executed.  Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.  Hast thou not seen those who praise themselves for purity? Nay, Allah purifieth whom He will, and they will not be wronged even the hair upon a date-stone.  See, how they invent lies about Allah! That of itself is flagrant sin. (50) Hast thou not seen those unto whom a portion of the Scripture hath been given, how they believe in idols and false deities, and how they say of those (idolaters) who disbelieve: "These are more rightly guided than those who believe"?  Those are they whom Allah hath cursed, and he whom Allah hath cursed, thou (O Muhammad) wilt find for him no helper.  Or have they even a share in the Sovereignty? Then in that case, they would not give mankind even the speck on a date-stone.  Or are they jealous of mankind because of that which Allah of His bounty hath bestowed upon them? For We bestowed upon the house of Abraham (of old) the Scripture and wisdom, and We bestowed on them a mighty kingdom.  And of them were (some) who believed therein and of them were (some) who disbelieved therein. Hell is sufficient for (their) burning.  Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise. 4; 44-56

Hast thou not seen those who pretend that they believe in that which is revealed unto thee and that which was revealed before thee, how they would go for judgment (in their disputes) to false deities when they have been ordered to abjure them? Satan would mislead them far astray.  And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah hath revealed and unto the messenger, thou seest the hypocrites turn from thee with aversion.  How would it be if a misfortune smote them because of that which their own hands have sent before (them)? Then would they come unto thee, swearing by Allah that they were seeking naught but harmony and kindness.  Those are they, the secrets of whose hearts Allah knoweth. So oppose them and admonish them, and address them in plain terms about their souls.  We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah's leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.  But nay, by thy Lord, they will not believe (in truth) until they make thee judge of what is in dispute between them and find within themselves no dislike of that which thou decidest, and submit with full submission. (And if We had decreed for them: Lay down your lives or go forth from your dwellings, but few of them would have done it; though if they did what they are exhorted to do it would be better for them, and more strengthening;  And then We should bestow upon them from Our presence an immense reward,  And should guide them unto a straight path.  Whoso obeyeth Allah and the messenger, they are with those unto whom Allah hath shown favour, of the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous. The best of company are they! 4; 60-69


And when Our revelations are recited unto them, thou knowest the denial in the faces of those who disbelieve; they all but attack those who recite Our revelations unto them. Say: Shall I proclaim unto you worse than that? The Fire! Allah hath promised it for those who disbelieve. A hapless journey's end! 22; 72

When the hypocrites come unto thee (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah's messenger. And Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the Hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely.
 63; 1-2

Have ye any hope that they will be true to you when a party of them used to listen to the word of Allah, then used to change it, after they had understood it, knowingly?  And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe. But when they go apart one with another they say: Prate ye to them of that which Allah hath disclosed to you that they may contend with you before your Lord concerning it? Have ye then no sense? 2; 75-76

 And they say: (It is) obedience; but when they have gone forth from thee a party of them spend the night in planning other than what thou sayest. Allah recordeth what they plan by night. So oppose them and put thy trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as Trustee.  Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity. 4; 81-82

"We have permitted the enemies of every prophet human and jinn devils to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications." 6:112

And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and by which ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling.  And this is a blessed Scripture which We have revealed, confirming that which (was revealed) before it, that thou mayst warn the Mother of Villages and those around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe herein, and they are careful of their worship. 6:91-92

"Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognise that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbour any doubt. The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient." 6:114-115


Here is what is written as to Muhammads teachings, or rather as a warner and what Allah says.......

Say: For myself I have no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, save that which Allah willeth. Had I knowledge of the Unseen, I should have abundance of wealth, and adversity would not touch me. I am but  a warner, and a bearer of good tidings unto folk who believe. S. 7:188
Allah states;......
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. S. 33:40

Allah states;......
“O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) making (things) clear unto you, after a break in (the series of) Messengers, lest you say: “There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner.” But now has come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And Allah is Able to do all things. Al-Maida:19

“Say (O Muhammad SAW): “I don’t tell you that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor (that) I know the unseen; nor I tell you that I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me by inspiration. Say: Are the blind and the one who sees equal? Will you not then take thought? (Quran, Surah Al An’aam, 50)”

Final note...Revelations ( Old Testament)
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.22;18
And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.22;19

This too, would deem a law for the hadiths...as the hadiths and all other scriptures before the Quran, were not protected by Allah. Allah knew that the Bible would be corrupted and warned those that would dare to corrupt the writings, thus the faith itself.

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Re: someone needs to refute this
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2015, 11:53:43 AM »
WELL SAID YAZ
People never follow the torah:
62: 5. The likeness of those who were entrusted with the (obligation of the) Taurât (Torah) (i.e. to obey its commandments and to practise its legal laws), but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is as the likeness of a donkey who carries huge burdens of books (but understands nothing from them). How bad is the example (or the likeness) of people who deny the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh. And Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers, etc.).
About Jew/Christ:
5: 41. O Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Let not those who hurry to fall into disbelief grieve you, of such who say: "We believe" with their mouths but their hearts have no faith. And of the Jews are men who listen much and eagerly to lies - listen to others who have not come to you. They change the words from their places; they say, "If you are given this, take it, but if you are not given this, then beware!" And whomsoever Allâh wants to put in Al¬Fitnah [error, because of his rejecting the Faith], you can do nothing for him against Allâh. Those are the ones whose hearts Allâh does not want to purify (from disbelief and hypocrisy); for them there is a disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a great torment.
9:31. They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allâh (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allâh), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilâh (God - Allâh) Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)."
3: 78. And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: "This is from Allâh," but it is not from Allâh; and they speak a lie against Allâh while they know it.
5: 64. The Jews say: "Allâh's Hand is tied up (i.e. He does not give and spend of His Bounty)." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for what they uttered. Nay, both His Hands are widely outstretched. He spends (of His Bounty) as He wills. Verily, the Revelation that has come to you from Allâh increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. We have put enmity and hatred amongst them till the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war, Allâh extinguished it; and they (ever) strive to make mischief on earth. And Allâh does not like the Mufsidûn (mischief¬makers).
65. And if only the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) had believed (in Muhammad SAW) and warded off evil (sin, ascribing partners to Allâh) and had become Al¬Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2) We would indeed have blotted out their sins and admitted them to Gardens of pleasure (in Paradise).
2: 79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allâh," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.
15: 9. Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption).
18: 102. Do then those who disbelieve think that they can take My slaves [i.e., the angels, Allâh's Messengers, 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), etc.] as Auliyâ' (lords, gods, protectors, etc.) besides Me? Verily, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers (in the Oneness of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism).
103. Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Shall We tell you the greatest losers in respect of (their) deeds?
62: 5. The likeness of those who were entrusted with the (obligation of the) Taurât (Torah) (i.e. to obey its commandments and to practice its legal laws), but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is as the likeness of a donkey who carries huge burdens of books (but understands nothing from them). How bad is the example (or the likeness) of people who deny the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh. And Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers, etc.).
6. Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O you Jews! If you pretend that you are friends of Allâh, to the exclusion of (all) other mankind, then long for death if you are truthful."
7. But they will never long for it (death), because of what (deeds) their hands have sent before them! And Allâh knows well the Zâlimûn (polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers, etc.).
8. Say (to them): "Verily, the death from which you flee will surely meet you, then you will be sent back to (Allâh), the All-Knower of the unseen and the scene, and He will tell you what you used to do."[Advice]
98: 1. Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and among Al-Mushrikûn, were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence.
2. A Messenger (Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) from Allâh, reciting (the Qur'ân) purified pages [purified from Al-Bâtil (falsehood, etc.)].
3. Containing correct and straight laws from Allâh.
5. And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give Zakât: and that is the right religion.
6. Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 829
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 427,428
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "May Allah's curse be on the Jews for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets."
Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 157
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
The Prophet said, "May Allah curse the Jews! When Allah forbade them to eat the fat of animals, they melted it and sold it, and utilized its price! "
Following Jew/Christ way prohibited:
42: 15. So unto this (religion of Islâm, alone and this Qur'ân) then invite (people) (O Muhammad SAW), and Istaqim [(i.e. stand firm and straight on Islâmic Monotheism by performing all that is ordained by Allâh (good deeds, etc.), and by abstaining from all that is forbidden by Allâh (sins and evil deeds, etc.)], as you are commanded, and follow not their desires but say: "I believe in whatsoever Allâh has sent down of the Book [all the holy Books, this Qur'ân and the Books of the old from the Taurât (Torah), or the Injeel (Gospel) or the Pages of Ibrâhim (Abraham)]
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 36 :: Hadith 468 , 469,471
Muslim :: Book 34 : Hadith 6448
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 422, 421,460
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Apostle said (to the Muslims). "Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' "
Jew /Christ took the graves of their  prophet place of worship:
Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 725
Narrated Urwa bin Az-Zubair:
'Aisha said, "The Prophet said during his fatal illness, "Allah cursed the Jews for they took the graves of their prophets as places for worship." 'Aisha added, "Had it not been for that (statement of the Prophet ) his grave would have been made conspicuous. But he was afraid that it might be taken as a place for worship."
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 472
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle in his fatal illness said, "Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians, for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets." And if that had not been the case, then the Prophet's grave would have been made prominent before the people. So (the Prophet ) was afraid, or the people were afraid that his grave might be taken as a place for worship.
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 660
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 414
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 662
Muslim :: Book 4 : Hadith 1079
Jew /Christ change their scripture, Quran only being divine:
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 461
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 48 :: Hadith 850
People of scripture avoid one part of the scripture:
Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 58 :: Hadith 281
graves of their prophets not as places of worship
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 72 :: Hadith 706
Jesus/isa prophecy for prophet muhammed[sa]
61: 6. And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you confirming the Taurât [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad SAW) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic."
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 55 :: Hadith 652
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "Both in this world and in the Hereafter, I am the nearest of all the people to Jesus, the son of Mary. The prophets are paternal brothers; their mothers are different, but their religion is one."
A Muslim is better than the jew/Christi:
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 624
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "Your stay (in this world) in comparison to the stay of the nations preceding you, is like the period between 'Asr prayer and the sun set (in comparison to a whole day). The people of the Torah were given the Torah and they acted on it till midday and then they were unable to carry on. And they were given (a reward equal to) one Qirat each. Then the people of the Gospel were given the Gospel and they acted on it till 'Asr Prayer and then they were unable to carry on, so they were given la reward equal to) one Qirat each. Then you were given the Qur'an and you acted on it till sunset, therefore you were given (a reward equal to) two Qirats each. On that, the people of the Scriptures said, 'These people (Muslims) did less work than we but they took a bigger reward.' Allah said (to them). 'Have I done any oppression to you as regards your rights?' They said, "No." Then Allah said, 'That is My Blessing which I grant to whomsoever I will.' "
Prophet muhammed(sa) the real follower of jesus(a):
Muslim :: Book 30 : Hadith 5835
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong to one religion and no Prophet was raised between me and Jesus.
Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 149,264
Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 76 :: Hadith 533
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 55 :: Hadith 645

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Re: someone needs to refute this
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2017, 09:56:02 AM »
-Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.w. could have received revelation but it could be satanic as well???

Satan would never warn us about himself,and satan would never ever tell us how to seek refuge from him...satan would never curse himself....

-the claims of epilepsy:

there are no reports of grand mal epilepsy (whereby the whole body is effected and it is so obvious that it could not be missed by anyone).

the minor forms of epilepsy are also ruled out because just sweating or trembling do NOT fulfil the criteria of epilepsy.

The detailed article is here.

https://rebuttaltounderstandingmuhammad.wordpress.com/2014/09/30/refuting-hallucinations-and-seizures/