Author Topic: Refuting Psalm 22:16 and isaiah 53  (Read 2381 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Najib

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • View Profile
Refuting Psalm 22:16 and isaiah 53
« on: November 22, 2015, 12:08:51 pm »
Salam wa aleykoum brothers and sorry for my bad English, i'm francophone, so i'm not used to English.

Psalm 22:16

The translation given is:
"Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet." (NIV)

While the real translation of this verse is:
"For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: like a lion my hands and my feet."

According to the jewish scriptures, this verse is mistranslated, the word used is "Kari" which means "Like a lion"
Ka= Like
Ari=Lion

Here's the text:
כִּי סְבָבוּנִי, כְּלָבִים:
עֲדַת מְרֵעִים, הִקִּיפוּנִי;
כָּאֲרִי, יָדַי וְרַגְלָי


If you put the text on translate google, you'll find the word "Cari"

Other sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_have_pierced_my_hands_and_my_feet
http://www.gotquestions.org/Psalm-22-16-lion-pierced.html

Just tip on google: The real translation of psalm 22:16

Or tip on google Psalm in hebrew, you'll found this page: http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2601.htm
And by this page you can navigate to this page http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2622.htm
You can read "17 For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet."


Isaiah 53

The whole chapter of Isaiah 53 is not referring to Jesus (PBUH), he is referring to the jewish people, and it's a continuation of Isaiah 52

-First of all Isaiah 53 start with:
"Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?"
This verse alone make no sense, but if associate him with Isaiah 52 it will be more clear.


Let's take some verses of Isaiah 52 and compare them with isaiah 53:

Isaiah 52: 4-5
For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "At first my people went down to Egypt to live; lately, Assyria has oppressed them.
And now what do I have here?" declares the LORD. "For my people have been taken away for nothing, and those who rule them mock," declares the LORD. "And all day long my name is constantly blasphemed.


Isaiah 52:10

The LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God.

Isaiah 52:15
so he will sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand.



Can you see the connection between Isaiah 52 and Isaiah 53?
There has been a warning to the Gentile king, But, "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?" Isaiah 53:1

ANd now, the comparaison


1) Isaiah 53:8
"By oppression and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished."

This verse goes with Isaiah 52:5:
"And now what do I have here?" declares the LORD. "For my people have been taken away for nothing, and those who rule them mock," declares the LORD. "And all day long my name is constantly blasphemed.


2) Isaiah 53:1
Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

This verse goes with Isaiah 52:10
"The LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God."

Coincidence?
As we know Jesus is supposed to be killed at the age of 37-38 and had no prosperity, but the prophecy of Isaiah 53 says
Isaiah 53:10
Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.

And once again, sorry for my bad english