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Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« on: February 16, 2016, 01:26:57 PM »
Saul was an enemy of the Christians and was on a mission to imprison or even kill Christians when He met Jesus on the road to Damascus.

 The vision of Jesus made Saul temporarily blind and the words of Christ and the mission that Christ gave Saul,

 sent Saul into deep fasting ( no drinking or eating for three days )  and  while in deep prayer  a few days later, a disciple of Christ came to heal Saul of his blindness.

 Saul who became Paul the Apostle, who after having spent some days with Christ disciples went about preaching and doing miracles.

So is Paul at the same level as the Prophets of  God ?

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 04:23:54 AM »
Noahites and Israelites have prophets that serve God that is uniquely singular and do not manifest on earth in human form.

Ancient Greeks have prophetic seers that serve God that have equals, able to impregnate women, as well manifesting on earth in human form.

Paul would fit the latter.

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 02:17:14 PM »
So Paul served God then and what does the Koran say about Paul's mission on earth ?

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2016, 04:54:59 AM »
Paul serve God that can manifest into human form, having equals , influenced by the Hellenistic beliefs of ancient Greeks.

such attribution of falsehood onto God is due to Deceiver promising to lead mankind astray from straight path.

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O mankind, fear your Lord and fear a Day when no father will avail his son, nor will a son avail his father at all. Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth, so let not the worldly life delude you and be not deceived about Allah by the Deceiver. 31:33

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 01:47:17 PM »
Paul serve(ed) God

The only God that Paul served was revealed to him by Jesus on Paul's mission to Damascus ( to arrest Christians ) and

 that vision and revelation by Jesus blinded Paul for three days in which Paul went into a deep fasting without food or drink until

 a disciple of Christ showed up to heal Paul of his blindness and after Paul was baptized,

 Paul stopped arresting Christians and the Christians were surprised to see Paul on the side of Jesus, preaching the good news of salvation in Christ

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 04:11:55 AM »
The only God that Paul served was revealed to him by Jesus on Paul's mission to Damascus ( to arrest Christians ) and

 that vision and revelation by Jesus blinded Paul for three days in which Paul went into a deep fasting without food or drink until

 a disciple of Christ showed up to heal Paul of his blindness and after Paul was baptized,

 Paul stopped arresting Christians and the Christians were surprised to see Paul on the side of Jesus, preaching the good news of salvation in Christ

These stories that you quote are what were written in Greek books/letters after the claim by Paul meeting Jesus in the desert.
And no Jews and also no Jewish followers of Jesus use Greek books/letters nor any of them wosrhip the same God that was revealed onto Paul in his mission to Damascus. However Hellenistic Romans love the idea and the concept of God brought by Paul thus embracing what was spread by Paul.

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 10:02:46 PM »

And no Jews and also no Jewish followers of Jesus use Greek books/letters

link me to the books written by the followers of Jesus, thanks

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 06:40:19 AM »
the early followers of Jesus use Aramaic gospel in Hebrew alphabet.
Some Christians even made claim that  even the translated Jesus logia/Q source that exist  before the time of Paul  did not survive.

Among the original sayings of Jesus :
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And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic  (61:6)

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 07:55:55 AM »
the early followers of Jesus

Who were the early followers of Jesus ? and could you also tell me who the early followers of the Koran were ? thanks



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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 10:27:50 AM »
early followers of Jesus were the Hawariyun, Nasoreans.

early followers would also mean they are companions of prophets. What was uttered by prophets will be memorized, written down as to what were spoken by the prophets and spread to mankind.

The message of all prophets are simply about obeying the covenants of God and believe in the day of resurrection.

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 01:50:48 PM »
early followers of Jesus were the Hawariyun, Nasoreans.

early followers would also mean they are companions of prophets. What was uttered by prophets will be memorized, written down as to what were spoken by the prophets and spread to mankind.

The message of all prophets are simply about obeying the covenants of God and believe in the day of resurrection.

The Hawariyun and  Nasoreans  wrote down what was spoken by Jesus, right ?, the same way the Koran was written

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2016, 04:10:46 AM »
The companions would memorize, recite and wrote the revelations and spread to the people whom the the prophet was sent.

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 03:01:46 PM »
The companions would memorize, recite and wrote the revelations and spread to the people whom the the prophet was sent.

So the followers of Jesus spread what was written ( to the people ), just like the Koran was spread to the people

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2016, 12:16:58 PM »
The companions would memorize, recite and wrote the revelations and spread to the people whom the the prophet was sent.

Did the followers of Jesus also memorize what Jesus said ?

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Re: Was Paul at the same level as the Prophets of God ?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2016, 02:11:03 PM »
The companions would memorize, recite and wrote the revelations and spread to the people whom the the prophet was sent.

Was the spreading of both books of the followers of Allah and Jesus, done the same way ?