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Offline AhmadFarooq

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2016, 05:21:16 PM »
It should have been in God's knowledge, yes.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2016, 11:15:32 PM »
It should have been in God's knowledge, yes.

Since God is not deceptive, He must have told the souls that they ( billions in fact), will fail  the test

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2016, 04:06:33 AM »
We don't know how many will fail the test, it is for God to decide who passes and who fails.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2016, 05:00:26 PM »
We don't know how many will fail the test, it is for God to decide who passes and who fails.

So the souls knew that at least one human would fail the test, since God told them that at least one will fail

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2016, 05:28:41 PM »
Probably, but the scarcity of information that Islamic doctrine provides on the matter makes such conclusions, at the end of the day, nothing more that just speculation.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2016, 09:21:50 AM »
Probably, but the scarcity of information that Islamic doctrine provides on the matter makes such conclusions, at the end of the day, nothing more that just speculation.

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What was the author's purpose in reporting such a story ?

Offline AhmadFarooq

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2016, 10:33:53 AM »
Don't know for sure. Probably to show the purpose of this life, of why we were created, of why there is a heaven and hell or the logic behind religion etc.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2016, 10:50:58 AM »
Don't know for sure. Probably to show the purpose of this life, of why we were created, of why there is a heaven and hell or the logic behind religion etc.

The author did not reveal the most important question : why give the test when God knew people would fail ? and apparently, the souls also knew at least one of them would fail

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2016, 07:45:14 PM »
I meant, I don't know for sure, others of more knowledge might.
Additionally, the argument can also be made to why not give the test, when God knew people would pass.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2016, 09:08:43 AM »
why not give the test,

The test included, worshipping God, right ?

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2016, 03:52:53 PM »
The test included following God's commands on Earth, which I suppose includes worshiping too.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2016, 06:01:03 PM »
The test included following God's commands on Earth, which I suppose includes worshiping too.

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What would you think of the person who made the following offer ?:

If somebody told you that if you worship him or her, you will get rewards

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2016, 06:40:05 PM »
Depends on the kind of rewards.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2016, 06:40:44 PM »
... among other things.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2016, 08:48:44 AM »
Depends on the kind of rewards.

aren't rewards, bribery?