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Offline brian464

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2016, 01:23:38 am »
If I remember correctly: rivers of milk, having the opportunity to listen to the voice  of Allah, palaces, if I'm not mistaken, the people getting served drinks by Allah Himself, people probably getting the opportunity to meet with their loved ones, or even the prophets.

There is no sex in heaven ?

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« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2016, 07:10:49 am »
If that is what the residents of heaven desire, than it will be there.

As I said before, "stop mincing words and speak plainly." It appears you were trying to push the discussion towards this point from the time you started asking about rewards of heaven about 5 days ago. And by the way, nice job on continuously moving from one topic to another, probably with the objective of finally finding a good argument against Islam.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #62 on: March 17, 2016, 12:38:49 am »
If that is what the residents of heaven desire, than it will be there.

Was there a reason you left the sex part out when you listed the rewards in heaven (in your previous post )  ?

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #63 on: March 17, 2016, 01:05:19 am »
Because it has been becoming increasingly clear to me that you are just trying to bait the other person in saying certain specific things. If you already knew the rewards, why were you asking me?

If you wanted to talk about this subject, you should have just said so, about a week ago when you tried to push the discussion towards this point. This is the third time, I'm saying this: "Stop mincing words and speak plainly."
It is apparent to me that you are not a Muslim, you have changed the subject multiple times in this discussion, apparently trying hard to finally catch the other person without an answer. Topics that were explained to you in one post, even though you did not continue to argue on that topic (presumably because you couldn't), you continued to debate on that same issue with another person in a way that showed complete ignorance of the arguments that I had already given.

Give me one good reason that I'm wrong, otherwise this is probably going to be my last post on this thread.

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2016, 01:12:09 am »
If you wanted to talk about this subject, you should have just said so,

The subject of the post is " Does God have human needs and wants ? " and the answer is pretty clear: according to muslims/christians/jews,  God wants people to worship Him ( a very human want ) and in return,

 heaven is the reward ( a very human response ).

and in the case of certain religions ( muslims being a part ) , sex is also part of the list of rewards.

 My question is , how far does sex go in heaven ?  Is it only with a person's wife or does the person have a  choice of multiple partners, in addition to the wife on earth ?

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« Reply #65 on: March 20, 2016, 06:01:27 am »
Muslims believe that before the start of this test, they were asked by God whether they want to go through with it or not.

Allah must have revealed to the "test takers" that failing to worship Allah would result in being burned alive in hell forever

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2016, 06:36:57 am »
They agreed to be tested, therefore according to this covenant, they have to follow God's commands.

Could any reasonable person agree to a test when failure ( to worship Allah )  means being burned alive forever ?

 Allah must have revealed to the "test takers" that the devil failed to worship and, at least, one of the "test takers" would fail to worship and the result is being burned alive without end

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2016, 07:56:21 am »
they have to follow God's commands.

The command of worshipping only Allah seems a little too human to me since humans have the tendency of demanding or commanding worship of themselves (  abusive husbands tend to command worship )

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Re: Does God have human needs and wants ?
« Reply #68 on: October 31, 2016, 03:59:53 pm »
Dear Brian464,

I read the first few questions you have asked in this post, and I think that I may be able to help you (if God willing). Dr. Laurence Brown who converted to Islam few years ago wrote many articles concerning some of your questions. I would like to invite you to read this article and I think that you MAY find answers to your questions.

The Big Questions, Part III—The Need for Revelation

In the previous two parts of this series, we answered the two “big questions.” Who made us? God. Why are we here? To serve and worship Him. A third question naturally arose: “If our Creator made us to serve and worship Him, how do we do that?” In the previous article I suggested that the only way we can serve our Creator is through obeying His mandates, as conveyed through revelation.
But many people would question my assertion: Why does mankind need revelation? Isn’t it enough just to be good? Isn’t it enough for each of us to worship God in our own way?

Regarding the need for revelation, I would make the following points: In the first article of this series I pointed out that life is full of injustices, but our Creator is fair and just and He establishes justice not in this life, but in the afterlife. However, justice cannot be established without four things—a court (i.e., the Day of Judgment); a judge (i.e., the Creator); witnesses (i.e., men and women, angels, elements of creation); and a book of laws upon which to judge (i.e., revelation). Now, how can our Creator establish justice if He did not hold humankind to certain laws during their livetimes? It’s not possible. In that scenario, instead of justice, God would be dealing out injustice, for He would be punishing people for transgressions they had no way of knowing were crimes.
Why else do we need revelation? To begin with, without guidance mankind cannot even agree on social and economic issues, politics, laws, etc. So how can we ever agree on God? Secondly, nobody writes the user manual better than the one who made the product. God is the Creator, we are creation, and nobody knows the overall scheme of creation better than the Creator. Are employees allowed to design their own job descriptions, duties and compensation packages as they see fit? Are we citizens allowed to write our own laws? No? Well then, why should we be allowed to write our own religions? If history has taught us anything, it is the tragedies that result when mankind follows its caprice. How many who have claimed to banner of free thought have designed religions that committed themselves and their followers to nightmares on Earth and damnation in the hereafter?

So why isn’t it enough just to be good? And why isn’t it enough for each of us to worship God in our own way? To begin with, peoples’ definitions of “good” differ. For some it is high morals and clean living, for others it is madness and mayhem. Similarly, concepts of how to serve and worship our Creator differ as well. More importantly and to the point, nobody can walk into a store or a restaurant and pay with a different currency than the merchant accepts. So it is with religion. If people want God to accept their servitude and worship, they have to pay in the currency God demands. And that currency is obedience to His revelation.
Imagine raising children in a home in which you have established “house rules.” Then, one day, one of your children tells you he or she has changed the rules, and is going to do things differently. How would you respond? More than likely, with the words, “You can take your new rules and go to Hell!” Well, think about it. We are
God’s creation, living in His universe under His rules, and “go to Hell” is very likely what God will say to any who presume to override His laws with their own.
Sincerity becomes an issue at this point. We should recognize that all pleasure is a gift from our Creator, and deserving of thanks. If given a gift, who uses the gift before giving thanks? And yet, many of us enjoy God’s gifts for a lifetime and never give thanks. Or give it late. The English poet, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, spoke of the irony of the distressed human appeal in The Cry of the Human:
And lips say “God be pitiful,” Who ne’er said, “God be praised.”
Should we not show good manners and thank our Creator for His gifts now, and subsequently for the rest of our lives? Don’t we owe Him that?
You answered “Yes.” You must have. Nobody will have read this far without being in agreement, but here’s the problem: Many of you answered “Yes,” knowing full well that your heart and mind does not wholly agree with the religions of your exposure. You agree we were created by a Creator. You struggle to understand Him. And you yearn to serve and worship Him in the manner He prescribes. But you don’t know how, and you don’t know where to look for the answers. And that, unfortunately, is not a subject that can be answered in an article. Unfortunately, that has to be addressed in a book, or maybe even in a series of books.
The good news is that I have written these books. I invite you to start with The Eighth Scroll. If you’ve liked what I’ve written here, you’ll love what I’ve written there.

The article is from: http://leveltruth.com/?p=72