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Sky Scientific Mistakes?
« on: April 17, 2016, 07:52:08 AM »
 Please refute the following:
"In surah 22 verse 65 we read the following:
He withholds the sky from falling on the earth except by His leave: for Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man.
And the following two verses make clear that the author of the Qur'an thought the sky is held up with invisible pillars:
13:2
Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that YE CAN SEE... Y. Ali
31:10
He created the heavens without any pillars THAT YE CAN SEE... A. Y. Ali
Were similar beliefs in pillars holding up the sky, and gods showing us how powerful they were by promising not to let the sky fall on our heads, around prior to Mohammad? And if so, might any reasonable and intelligent reader suppose the author of the Qur'an could have been influenced by these myths?

In Eastern religions, the belief in such things was, it seems, widespread. For example...

One Vedic poet writes of a god "by whom the awesome sky and earth were made firm, by whom the dome of the sky was propped up"; and Varuna "pillared both the worlds apart as the unborn supported heaven" (Rig-veda 10.121.5; 8.41.10). "A common cosmology of the ancient world"

The ancient Egyptians, as well,  had a similar belief in a sky that was held up by four pillars. In fact one of their Godessess, called Nut (from where, some have suggested, we get our word night and the French their nuit) was believed to arch over the Earth, her arms and legs forming the four pillars that held up the heavens.

And of course there are many biblical references to pillars holding up the heavens: In Job we find that "the pillars of heaven tremble" (26:11) and  "Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble?" ( 9:6);. And in Samuel  "the foundations of the heavens tremble" (22:8).

So how do Muslims explain all this? Let's turn to everyone's favourite Islamic apologist, Maurice Bucaille and his infamous book, The Bible, the Qur'an and Science. Apparently the very verses I quoted at the beginning of this post prove that the author of the Qur'an doesn't really believe in the pillars. Really? What, just because  Allah has made the pillars INVISIBLE?

"These two verses refute the belief that the vault of the heavens was held up by pillars, the only things preventing the former from crushing the earth" Bucaille (The Bible, the Qur’an and Science, p.154).

Or some just quote the verse without the salient section at the end:
 
Allah is who raised The heavens without any pillar. (Holy Qur'an 13:2)
So here's my question: If Allah wishes us to use our intellect to conclude He exists,why does the Qur'an mention pillars (invisible or not) holding up the sky, and suggest that the Creator, like other ancient Gods, has it within his power to let the sky fall on our heads? Surely any educated, curious, sensible reader will come to the opposite conclusion..."

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Re: Sky Scientific Mistakes?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2016, 08:27:30 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum,

The Divine Miracles of the Sky and the Heavens are thoroughly demonstrated here:

www.answering-christianity.com/rain_miracle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm#explosion_of_universe
www.answering-christianity.com/gravity_in_noble_quran.htm
(The invisible pillars are discussed here)

The doomed-to-Hell infidels have nothing on Islam.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Sky Scientific Mistakes?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2016, 09:36:42 AM »
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It is Allah who erected the heavens without pillars that you [can] see; then He established Himself above the Throne and made subject the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term. He arranges [each] matter; He details the signs that you may, of the meeting with your Lord, be certain 13:2

we dont see pillars, we dont see tracks for the celestial objects to run on.

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Re: Sky Scientific Mistakes?
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Re: Sky Scientific Mistakes?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2016, 01:51:38 AM »
As salamu alaikum

This has been refuted over here:

http://quranscientificerror.blogspot.com/2013/06/re-earth-has-invisible-pillars-keeping.html?m=1

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Nice article, but it fails to quote the Glorious Quran on the Balance that Allah Almighty has put in the Universe.  My article above covers it and covers a lot more Noble Verses in details.  There are several Noble Verses that speak about the invisible force and invisible balance of gravities in the Universe.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah