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Offline Sharif

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Was the verse 21:30 borrowed from ancient pagan myths?
« on: June 03, 2016, 11:39:16 AM »
A time ago, I listened that the verse 21:30 of the Quran was borrowed from ancient pagan, in this verse the Quran talks about the Big Bang and according to wahat i have heard, this theory was present in form of Mythology many centuries before the Quran, the user mendacium remedium made this very question here, but he did not obtain a reply: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1046.0

So, I wanted to know if this is refuted, here or in another page, also I founded an important thing, a "muslim" page said that the quran scientific miracles are false, because that was before in other scriptures, who is that man? an anti-muslim; why did he say that?: http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-articles/exploring-the-quran/does-the-quran-contain-scientific-miracles-a-new-approach/

Is truth what he said? The miracles that he "refuted" are the unit miracles in the Quran?, namely, are the Quran scientific miracles refuted? THANKS, SALAM ALEIKUM

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Re: Was the verse 21:30 borrowed from ancient pagan myths?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2016, 12:02:06 AM »
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1046.0
the article is about Egyptian wind & air god, sky god, horizon god, moon god and sun god. But no proper ancient verses/quotes were written in the article.
Its limited to gods of certain elements within a galaxy or much smaller what can be seen from earth.


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As for Quran its talking about attribute of universe what can't be seen from earth.

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"Verily, the Hour is surely coming. But I will to keep it hidden, that every soul may be rewarded for that which it strives (to achieve)." [The Qur'an 20:15]

Almighty God explanation on end of days about what will happen to our flat universe.

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The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it. (The Qur'an, 21:104)

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Re: Was the verse 21:30 borrowed from ancient pagan myths?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2016, 08:41:30 AM »
A time ago, I listened that the verse 21:30 of the Quran was borrowed from ancient pagan, in this verse the Quran talks about the Big Bang and according to wahat i have heard, this theory was present in form of Mythology many centuries before the Quran, the user mendacium remedium made this very question here, but he did not obtain a reply: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1046.0

So, I wanted to know if this is refuted, here or in another page, also I founded an important thing, a "muslim" page said that the quran scientific miracles are false, because that was before in other scriptures, who is that man? an anti-muslim; why did he say that?: http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-articles/exploring-the-quran/does-the-quran-contain-scientific-miracles-a-new-approach/

Is truth what he said? The miracles that he "refuted" are the unit miracles in the Quran?, namely, are the Quran scientific miracles refuted?
 THANKS, SALAM ALEIKUM


 Assalamu alaikum,

 Regarding the scientific miracles, not all of them have been refuted. You shouldn't be a Muslim only because of the scientific miracles in the Quran. In fact, you should barely use them when it comes to calling people to Islam. I agree wih Hamza Tzortis TBH. The Quran isn't a book of science, but a book of guidance.

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Re: Was the verse 21:30 borrowed from ancient pagan myths?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2016, 02:55:44 PM »
Salam Aleikum Brothers, thanks for your answers, so, there are miracles in the Quran which have not been refuted, and also, the egyptiant texts does not talks about the incredibles things of the Quran has, is like this? did i understand?

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Re: Was the verse 21:30 borrowed from ancient pagan myths?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2016, 03:36:31 PM »
Assalamualykum

We have discussed these things in detail long ago.
But u must keep this in your mind that Quran is not the only heavenly book. heavenly books were revealed to each and every civilization that wandered on this earth. Their books might had verses referring to this fact. But unfortunately the people at that time lacked knowledge and those books got distorted over time as no one bothered about preserving them. They snipped the verses just to fit their own narratives.
 Quran is different. It's the last heavenly book which contains knowledge pertaining everything in this universe. But it's much more sophisticated and designed in such a way that it makes sense to people of all times. And here Allah didn't refer to the scientific facts directly just to prevent confusions. You already saw that one word can be laden with much deeper meanings than perceived before.  And Allah Himself has taken the responsibility of preserving it. That's why you don't see different versions of the Quran unlike other books.

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Re: Was the verse 21:30 borrowed from ancient pagan myths?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2016, 05:48:30 AM »
Salam Aleikum Brothers, thanks for your answers, so, there are miracles in the Quran which have not been refuted, and also, the egyptiant texts does not talks about the incredibles things of the Quran has, is like this? did i understand?

egyptian texts talks about heaven and earth. And the so called explanations are from what is viewed from earth. god of wind god air god , horizon god of sun moon etc all are elements that recognized and viewed from earth.

verse of quran 21:30 is talking about a special matter. where later heaven and earth got created.