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Offline Ramihs97

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Science proving God's existence ?
« on: September 18, 2016, 12:07:32 am »
A very interesting article i came across :

http://www.wsj.com/articles/eric-metaxas-science-increasingly-makes-the-case-for-god-1419544568

However,there are supposed refutations to this : Just google "Science increasingly makes the case for god" And you'll see one from Richard dawkins dot net and A link "No astrobio does not prove god"

Thoughts on the 2-3 articles ?


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Re: Science proving God's existence ?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 02:13:15 am »
 Thanks a lot for sharing. Atheism is a huge problem today for Muslims. Not as much as it is for Christians (60 million will leave Christianity by 2050) but still a problem for Muslims. Anyways, their is an other evidence for the existence of God. A study in Oxford which costed about 2 million pounds around 20 countries with 50 academics proves that humans are naturally predisposed to believe in God! This is something that we call fitrah in Islam. Check this out:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8510711/Belief-in-God-is-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 02:25:49 am »
@Abdullah have you read the refutations and the dawkins one as well ? what were your thoughts or own refutations ?

Regarding that Oxford study,my friend who's a Psychology major who i had find and read the actual study about that link said it was about 300 pages long if my memory serves me well and it was extremely over the top complicated. Maybe not what we might think it is. Cause i think all it really mentioned was people in rural/poorer situations believed in God while others in more social areas didn't.

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 03:46:24 am »
@Abdullah have you read the refutations and the dawkins one as well ? what were your thoughts or own refutations ?

Regarding that Oxford study,my friend who's a Psychology major who i had find and read the actual study about that link said it was about 300 pages long if my memory serves me well and it was extremely over the top complicated. Maybe not what we might think it is. Cause i think all it really mentioned was people in rural/poorer situations believed in God while others in more social areas didn't.

 What refutations? Both poor and rich showed signs of believing in God, however the poor showed it more. And that is natural of course.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 03:49:46 am »
Refutations as in the first article was for God and the other 3 including one on dawkins site were against. Were they strong arguments for the against in your opinion or were they baseless and on what sense ?

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 04:31:26 am »
Refutations as in the first article was for God and the other 3 including one on dawkins site were against. Were they strong arguments for the against in your opinion or were they baseless and on what sense ?

 Give me the links.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 05:31:59 am »
The two are already there bro

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 06:26:56 am »
The two are already there bro

 Ok, so whathat? Richard Dawkins has nothing to do with this and the last article hasn't been refuted by anyone. Go look it up.

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2016, 07:41:10 am »
One relevant thing I should mention, according to recent statistics Chinese people are turning towards Christianity (i.e. towards one concept of God) and China is, I suppose, definitely not a poor people's country.

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2016, 07:48:42 am »
One relevant thing I should mention, according to recent statistics Chinese people are turning towards Christianity (i.e. towards one concept of God) and China is, I suppose, definitely not a poor people's country.

 Yup, although I believe that is most likely because of the ridiculous amount of Christian missionaries. I would also like to add that there is a great amount of poverty in China:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8510711/Belief-in-God-is-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html

 Although China is getting rid of poverty quickly.

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2016, 08:18:27 am »
The belief in God will always prevail against atheism as all humans will age, die get wrecked with bad sickness etc.
 You can see when an atheist cant find cure to their beloved ones using med-science. They will began to challenge the existence of God to cure their beloved ones.
And shall their beloved one stay alive, they will believe in whichever version of God that they may have challenged.

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2016, 08:56:26 am »
You guys dont think there are any highlighting points in the two refutal links to the first one ?

Here's dawkins letter to the editor of the first link proving god :

https://richarddawkins.net/2014/12/letter-to-the-editor/