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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2016, 02:54:13 pm »
 I NEVER said that Ibn Kathir or any scholar is infallible or never makes mistakes. I dare YOU to show that! The reason to why I trust I need Ibn Kathir more than you is because one is very knowledgeable, wise, and doesn't interpret religion falsely based on his modern beliefs (for example: your attempts at proving that apostasy isn't punishable). An example of how you interpret the Quran falsely is the Dahaha verse. No one is denying that dahaha means egg, however it is Arabic grammar proves that the verse cannot mean that the Earth is round. If it did, then it would've said (كالادحي) I already gave you many links before refuting your statments from Muslims themselves! STOP changing the word of Allah. Don't worry, I will make an article on this website called "Top 20 Scientific Miracles Debunked". Unless yout lied about your promise and decide to ban me. NONE of the scholars over here in Saudi Arabia say that they are infallible or that all they say is true. No one said such things. I dare you to give me ONE proof of a scholar saying that.  YOU failed to refute ANY of the arguments that I gave! Then show me were the Muslims "exposed" that guys videos. Most of the stuff that he said is true. Refute it or just don't speak.

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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2016, 03:28:22 pm »
My articles are mostly based on works of big scholars that wrote their materials and did their research before you.  While I do have original work and findings of my own, but most of my work had been done by others.  And I give credit where it is due.

As to apostates, this is outside the topic of the Scientific and Numerical Miracles discussion here.  And the brothers here have thoroughly refuted you on this point.  The reader can also visit:  www.answering-christianity.com/apostates.htm.

As to Dahaha, I can't believe you man.  LOL.  Didn't you get thoroughly refuted here so bad that you ran away from the discussion:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2137.msg9273.html#msg9273

Care to respond to the ample points and definitions that thoroughly refuted you?


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YOU failed to refute ANY of the arguments that I gave! Then show me were the Muslims "exposed" that guys videos. Most of the stuff that he said is true. Refute it or just don't speak.

You know it's funny that in the link that I just gave, you responded to my post by admitting that the Glorious Quran does indeed have Scientific Miracles in it.


I made you say:

"First, I NEVER said that the Quran has no scientific miracres!"

So after I thoroughly refuted you and embarrased you, I made you say that the Glorious Quran does indeed have Scientific Miracles in It.  And now you're challenging me to refute that infidel doofus of yours, which I again say:

1-  His video is garbage, because he didn't give analysis on the Noble Words.
2-  He himself even uses words such as "probable" in his arguments.

So the doofus is not even refuting the Glorious Quran with certainty.  He is using empty assertions and bias.  And again, please bring me one point from his video that my article doesn't thoroughly destroy.

I am waiting....

Let's see if the infidel's arguments will stand against the Glorious Quran.  Any monkey can produce any video.  Let's see if you can give one argument from his video that my article does not destroy.

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Osama Abdallah

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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2016, 04:23:51 pm »
My articles are mostly based on works of big scholars that wrote their materials and did their research before you.  While I do have original work and findings of my own, but most of my work had been done by others.  And I give credit where it is due.

As to apostates, this is outside the topic of the Scientific and Numerical Miracles discussion here.  And the brothers here have thoroughly refuted you on this point.  The reader can also visit:  www.answering-christianity.com/apostates.htm.

As to Dahaha, I can't believe you man.  LOL.  Didn't you get thoroughly refuted here so bad that you ran away from the discussion:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2137.msg9273.html#msg9273

Care to respond to the ample points and definitions that thoroughly refuted you?

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Osama Abdallah

Regarding Apostasy:

 I had already dealt with that in an other article. I gave hadiths which refute your points and some of the other brothers' points. The only one over here who was really able to debate this issue with me properly was Ahmad Farooq. But his points were weak. He claims that some scholar has said that the apostate shouldn't be punished, but he didn't provide any reference for that and even if that scholar did do that that still wouldn't matter since all scholars make mistakes and his view is wrong according to almost all of the scholars. He also said that their is no evidence that the one who was born a Muslim and leaves Islam shold the be killed however that is wrong since the hadiths regarding apostasy are general to everyone who leaves Islam.

The Dahaha issue:

 No translation besides that of Rashad Khalifa, who is a false prophet, translated the word to mean "made it round" or something like that. You further criticize the website IslamQA and call it a Salafi link but the funny thing is that you used material from their website in your own website!!!!!!! LOL! Check this link:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/hadiths_of_the_fly.htm

Your so called "evidence" for the Dahaha verse has been dealt with over here by an Arabic professional Muslim brother:

https://youtu.be/5D4ChAnqkxU



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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2016, 04:27:05 pm »
 I had also dealt with your claims against the "Salafi" link in an other section. When people say that the Earth is egg shaped they don't mean that it is egg shaped literally. Everyone nowadays says that the Earth is "egg-shaped" but do they mean that it is literally "egg-shaped"? No!

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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2016, 04:35:20 pm »
Once again, if you bothered to read my material, you would've found that I hardly relied on the EGG-SHAPED definition.  Instead, I thoroughly demonstrated that DAHA means:

1-  To push.

2-  To throw.

دحا   (daha):  دفعه و رمى به (dafa'aahu wa ramaa bih) Caused it to move, pushed it, or threw it.

دحا الصبي المِدحاةَََ أي دفع الصبي المِدحاةَََ   Daha the boy the rolling toy, means the boy pushed the rolling toy.


3-  To make something roll, as in DAHA the barrel from the top of the hill, which means he rolled it down from the top of the hill.  Also, this is where the Arabic word DAHRAJA is derived from, which means to make something roll down.

4-  To make something round.  I used several examples for ROUND AND BULGED TUMMY, and making round objects.  I even used a Hadith from Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, when he said:

In Prophet Muhammad's Hadith: كان لأسامة بطننٌ مُندحٌ اي متسع   Osama had a round and big tummy.

Also the dictionary says:
الدحداح هو المستدير الململم    The dahdaah is the person who is ROUND and STOCKY.

و بطنٌ مُنداحُ أي خارخٌ مُدوّر  His tummy is mun-daahun means it is OUT THERE AND ROUND مُدوّر.



So when Allah Almighty DAHA THE EARTH, it means that Allah Almighty EXPANDED IT SPHERICALLY through rotating it around itself and moving it in its orbit in space.  And this is why Allah Almighty Said after that (after He DAHAHA), He brought forth from it its water and pasture.  Science has proven this to be 100% accurate and True:


1-  Water was brought forth from the earth - Science confirmed it and the Holy Quran claimed it 1400 years ago:




2-  Our earth expanded and produced its own water:



And






As to the Youtube video that you gave, the guy talks from his rear end, without proofs, and uses the same KAL-ADHA argument that you copy and pasted from him, which I throughly destroyed for you and made you run away.  The reader can see my thorough refutation to you and him at:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2137.msg9273.html#msg9273

KAL-ADHA or KAL-UDHI كالادحي is the word that should've been used??  You people are really something!



Didn't the Almighty PROMISE to Reveal the Scientific Miracles from the Glorious Quran in the Universe and inside ourselves until it will become clear to us that the Quran is the Truth from Him?

www.answering-christianity.com/sci_prophecy.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


I feel sorry for you.



But Prophet Muhammad didn't interpret them like this:

I get this lame argument a lot.  But Prophet Muhammad himself admitted, and Allah Almighty thoroughly confirmed that the Prophet couldn't interpret much of the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/prophet_muhammad_did_not_know_everything_about_quran.htm

So this lame argument that if it's not in the Hadiths (sayings) of the Prophet, then we don't accept it fails.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2016, 01:44:25 am »
What happened?  Did you finally realize the Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran, or did you get silenced again?  Your cult's nonsense is fantastic.  Are you too arrogant and stubborn to accept the Signs of Allah Almighty?  Or did your zionist SWTs in Saudi Arabia order you continue to dumb down Islam?

Please update us...

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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2016, 05:41:53 am »
What happened?  Did you finally realize the Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran, or did you get silenced again?  Your cult's nonsense is fantastic.  Are you too arrogant and stubborn to accept the Signs of Allah Almighty?  Or did your zionist SWTs in Saudi Arabia order you continue to dumb down Islam?

Please update us...

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 Don't worry. I will make an other thread soon debinking your "scientific miracles" tommorow. I have to deal with a bunch of Christians today.

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Re: Barrier between salt and fresh water
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2016, 07:23:02 am »
This is not the first time you run like that.  You did exactly this before and never came back to the topic.

Osama