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Offline Omar Ahmed

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Re: Top 10 Scientific Miracles Debunked- A Response to Osama Abdallah
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2016, 03:35:15 PM »
so be it don't believe them but they are part of the Qur'an and i and many people believe in them

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2016, 03:39:18 PM »
Brother Ahmed Farooq mentioned how there were several prophets before us so they must've mentioned something regarding such scientific notions maybe.

The thing about the Quran is you have these Atheists,Christians and Jews screaming PLAGIARISM PLAGIARISM !!

When the Quran ITSELF stated several times that all the Quran is really about is the true older revelations that weren't altered or corrupt. By definition plagiarism is taking someone else's work and claiming it your own without the other knowing. All the Quran said is these are the unaltered verses which were previously mentioned before you.

Ironically it seems like the Christians and jews plagiarized their own books.

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2016, 03:40:37 PM »
@Abdullah I get you bro but how can one make a concrete statement to claim the Quran has no scientific error in it ? Are there any sources references?

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2016, 04:38:17 PM »
@Abdullah I get you bro but how can one make a concrete statement to claim the Quran has no scientific error in it ? Are there any sources references?

 How? What do you mean brother? Dr. Maurice Bucaille has made a book called The Bible, the Quran, and Science in where he comes to a conclusion in the end that the Quran, unlike the Bible, doesn't have scientific mistakes. The links above refute almost all of the claims made by anti-Islamics.. I have a question brother:

 If it is discovered later on that the Quran contradicts science in some way in the future. Wold you disbelieve in it?

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2016, 04:56:11 PM »
@Abdullah hasn't Maurice's claims been refuted ? (On the wikipedia section of Islam and science which is SWARMING with answering islam members which we should fix btw)

I mean... it depends on the level of the so called error.. all I've been trying to research is does it contain 1 error because one could be fatal. Also where could the proof of no errors be found somewhere reliable? (Is the main reason i still come on this site to keep my mind at ease).

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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2016, 05:19:28 PM »

 If it is discovered later on that the Quran contradicts science in some way in the future. Wold you disbelieve in it?
that will never happen ;)

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2016, 05:21:05 PM »
@Abdullah hasn't Maurice's claims been refuted ? (On the wikipedia section of Islam and science which is SWARMING with answering islam members which we should fix btw)

I mean... it depends on the level of the so called error.. all I've been trying to research is does it contain 1 error because one could be fatal. Also where could the proof of no errors be found somewhere reliable? (Is the main reason i still come on this site to keep my mind at ease).
no brother there aren't any errors in the Qur'an, anything answering islam says has been refuted

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2016, 05:31:20 PM »
@Abdullah hasn't Maurice's claims been refuted ? (On the wikipedia section of Islam and science which is SWARMING with answering islam members which we should fix btw)

I mean... it depends on the level of the so called error.. all I've been trying to research is does it contain 1 error because one could be fatal. Also where could the proof of no errors be found somewhere reliable? (Is the main reason i still come on this site to keep my mind at ease).

 Maurice hasn't been refuted from what I saw at all. Second, what is this so called "fatal" error that you find in the Quran? We cannot fix the amount of anti-Islamics on the internet. They will exist every where and in all times. They have been their since the time of the prophet (peace be upon him. Even if the error was fatal, science always changes. You ask to many questions which could be bad. Ibn Taymiyah said that one's heart shouldn't be a sponge for questions so that one of these questions causes him great doubt. 400 years ago they said that the Sun revolves around the Earth and now the opposite. 3000 years ago they said the Earth is flat but now that it is round. Science changes. It always changes. I already gave you a source which claims that the Quran has no errors. Do you want the source to be Muslim or non-Muslim? Do you expect a Non-Muslim to claim that the Quran has no errors instead of lying? The only non-Muslim that I found was Maurice and Keith Moore. Other than that I don't know anybody.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2016, 05:32:54 PM »

 If it is discovered later on that the Quran contradicts science in some way in the future. Wold you disbelieve in it?
that will never happen ;)

 Read my original comment brother. There was a scientific contradiction in the Quran at the time of the prophet (peace be upon him) and the old scholars. How ever science know longer considers it to be a mistake.

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2016, 05:38:00 PM »
no it wasn't an error back then, because the Qur'an agrees with ALL times that's why Allah didn't say THE EARTH IS ROUND but rather said (Dahaha) because it agreed back then with science and it agrees with science now

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2016, 05:44:46 PM »
Do you really think anyone would've followed prophet Muhammad pbuh if there were scientifiic errors in the Qur'an back then?

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2016, 06:34:03 PM »
no it wasn't an error back then, because the Qur'an agrees with ALL times that's why Allah didn't say THE EARTH IS ROUND but rather said (Dahaha) because it agreed back then with science and it agrees with science now

 Am I talking to a wall? Go to the Dahaha HOAX section on this article to see my rebuttal to the claim. Dahaha doesn't mean made it round, again stop changing the word of Allah almighty.

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Do you really think anyone would've followed prophet Muhammad pbuh if there were scientifiic errors in the Qur'an back then?

 Yes, would you follow him? Many Rabbis and Priests converted to Islam at his time because he was in the Torah and Injil. There is a lot if evidence for the prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2016, 06:39:30 PM »
your Dahaha HOAX section doesn't prove anything because it has been totally refuted ;) do you mean the verses say the Earth is flat???

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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2016, 06:47:40 PM »
i don't care id totally refuted doesn't satisfy you but guess what? brother osama explained this ideology of yours in his article and explained what dahaha can mean

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Re: Top 10 Scientific Miracles Debunked- A Response to Osama Abdallah
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2016, 06:54:15 PM »
your Dahaha HOAX section doesn't prove anything because it has been totally refuted ;) do you mean the verses say the Earth is flat???

Abdullah Almadi.  While you're allowed to post, but I never allow anyone to spam and monkey around.  You are required to directly answer this question that brother Omar has asked you.

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