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Offline Ramihs97

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Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« on: October 01, 2016, 08:35:53 AM »
http://www.arabhumanists.org/arab-women-pre-islam/

According to an essay on the website above whenever muslims claim that Islam gave rights to women that the rights were bogus and not at all special as in fact they've provided certain hadiths (not sure if reliable ) which showed how women were treated harshly. That as more information could potentially show how muslim women were treated badly and apologists will have to find a way to cope with it without changing the meanings in the Quran. This article greatly stressed me for some reason. There are references stated at the bottom of it as well for those of you who would like to see.

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 11:02:02 AM »
Keeping in view your previous experiences and discussions which have happened here, can you please enlighten us why exactly you visited that particular site?

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2016, 11:35:43 AM »
Well i'm currently writing an essay where i further humiliate modern missionaries and priests by tearing apart their false religion.

"The birth of a daughter is a loss." in their bible came up so i tried to research more about Pre-Islamic Arabia to further strengthen my argument and i came across this site. I have bad luck when it comes to google and anti-islamics haha.

Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2016, 11:55:19 AM »
Well i'm currently writing an essay where i further humiliate modern missionaries and priests by tearing apart their false religion.

"The birth of a daughter is a loss." in their bible came up so i tried to research more about Pre-Islamic Arabia to further strengthen my argument and i came across this site. I have bad luck when it comes to google and anti-islamics haha.

 Or you can search on this site:

www.searching-islam.com

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 11:57:31 AM »
I also remember being told as a child in regards to this wife beating hysterica that it was supposed to be done with some sort of siwak how the Prophet pbuh practiced ? I remember coming across it being weak however I'm not sure on it's certanty. Was a slight buzzkill haha

@Abdullah lmao yes i'm sorry for the millionth time i actually just remembered  it a second ago and started looking things up like the 360 joint thing. I wonder what the majority of academics say on this issue none the less.

Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2016, 11:59:18 AM »
 I'm really starting to doubt you Rami. How many times have I showed you the site (searching-islam)? Again, are you Introvert98? In anyways, the essay is kinda bad. Some people in the comments section have dealt with some of the claims in it.  You should ask the other brothers to refute this stuff since I have no time at the moment. However, I would like to say that there was a huge lack of historians in the Jahilliyah so we barely know anything about pre-Islamic Arabia. I will try to deal with this stuff later on by myself.

Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2016, 12:36:42 PM »
I also remember being told as a child in regards to this wife beating hysterica that it was supposed to be done with some sort of siwak how the Prophet pbuh practiced ? I remember coming across it being weak however I'm not sure on it's certanty. Was a slight buzzkill haha

@Abdullah lmao yes i'm sorry for the millionth time i actually just remembered  it a second ago and started looking things up like the 360 joint thing. I wonder what the majority of academics say on this issue none the less.


 So you ask a question in the middle of a reply! How many questions can you ask Rami? This is a miracle! No normal human can ask this much. I had collected evidences from non-Muslim websites that there are 360 joints in the body and that even if there aren't then it is ok and doesn't contradict science.

Check this out:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2175.msg9461.html#msg9461

NOTE:

 This website (http://www.buzzle.com/articles/joints-in-the-body.html) says that the joints are about 230 however it was only talking about the movable joints. There is a chart in the same article which adds up to 360 joints.

Distribution of Human Body Joints
Part of the Body   Number of Joints
Skull   86
Throat and Neck   6
Thorax   66
Spine and Pelvis   76
Hands, Arms and Fingers   64
Legs, Feet and Toes   62


86 + 6 + 66 + 76 + 64 + 62=360

https://www.google.ae/search?q=86+plus+6&oq=86+plus+6+&aqs=chrome..69i57.2562j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=86+plus+6+plus+66+plus+76+plus+64+plus+62


 

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2016, 01:01:17 PM »
ya 7abibi one needs to know what he's dealing with to strive for knowledge one must exhaust questions and possibilities.

btw thanks a load for that link and distinguishing between movable and immovable joints.

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2016, 02:09:01 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum,

The following links should be of ample help, insha'Allah:

www.answering-christianity.com/women.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/beating.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/360_joints.htm


Not only a birth of a daughter is a loss, but women can be beaten up too in the Bible.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2016, 02:22:02 AM »
If bart ehrman confirmed that the quran is still preserved. What are his reasons for rejecting islam ?

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2016, 02:28:44 AM »
Bart ehrman also said that the crucifixion of jesus is a secure fact ???

https://ehrmanblog.org/why-was-jesus-killed-for-members/

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2016, 04:41:07 AM »
So in my essay i was ridiculing the unicorns in the bible. Yet i was told the prophet muhammed rode a Pegasus with wings ??

Isn't that somewhat hypocritical for us to do if we basj Christians or is that not true ?

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2016, 02:14:43 PM »
Bart ehrman also said that the crucifixion of jesus is a secure fact ???

https://ehrmanblog.org/why-was-jesus-killed-for-members/

that only proves Islam right. If he didn't appear to be crucified historically,that means Allah was wrong when he said that he might it look like Isa was crucified


Also, maybe Isa was really put on the cross, but didn't die.

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Re: Women in Islam not as claimed ?
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2016, 01:49:15 AM »
Yo @khdrb that link was legit man thanks.

@RoyalMuslim so according to the Quran the real jesus is alive but a fake one got crucified?  Or no crucifixion happened at all ?