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My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« on: May 11, 2017, 01:01:21 PM »
David Wood is pathetic. He made a lot of stupid videos about falsehoods of Islam.
 

2 weeks ago, he released a video about female genital mutilation in Islam.

Wow, wow, wow! I was born in Saudi Arabia under Shariah Law and I never circumcise my penis' forskin. My religious father never told about this.

David claimed that FGM is not forbidden by Muslim scholars. Really? Are you lying?

Well, I heard that the grand mufti of Egypt, Ali Gomaa, issued a fatwa condemning FGM in 2006. 7 months later, when an 11 years old girl died after her genitalia was mutilated, mufti urged the Egyptian government to ban FGM, saying that it's un-Islamic.

In fact, many Muslim countries banned FGM in recent years. For instance, Islamist president Yahya Jammeh banned FGM in Gambia in 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country

Brother Osama, may Allah be pleased with him, already refuted this topic in Islam and Christianity. Visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/genital_mutilation.htm


Muslims support FGM becauseIslam?
Not always, the Washington Post reported that an Egyptian politician supported FGM so that women should reduce their sexual desires because men are sexually weak.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/09/06/egypt-lawmaker-female-genital-mutilation-needed-because-men-are-sexually-weak/?utm_term=.b82a6387b9ba
 


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Anti-Muslims don't want to read this:
https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/10/22/increase-of-fgm-fgcs-by-europeans/

In fact, many African Christians support FGM as well.

Ironically,, young western women like to get breast implants and female genital cosmetic surgery (FGCS), which cause tremendous health risks, but they don't care about that.


David Wood is a satanic deceiver.



Peace,
Albarra


 
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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 03:09:42 PM »
David Wood's tongue is black! Why?

Well, he keep saying that Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and Abu Dawud are the "most trusted sources" over and over again.

Okay Mr. Wood, but why do you use unreliable sources such as Ibn Ishaq?  Unbelievable.


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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 03:46:20 PM »
Because he does to much Mutah, LoL..
David Wood's tongue is black! Why?

Well, he keep saying that Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and Abu Dawud are the "most trusted sources" over and over again.

Okay Mr. Wood, but why do you use unreliable sources such as Ibn Ishaq?  Unbelievable.

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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2017, 09:28:44 PM »
TruthExposer777,

I mean that David Wood uses unreliable sources because he simply hates Muhammad (phub). He said that Muhammad (phub) was racist.

However, Brother Shadid Lewis, may Allah be pleased with him, already refuted David about unreliable sources, but David doesn't care what the prominent Islamic scholars said about Ibn Ishaq. They said that Ibn Ishaq was a liar and impostor of Islam.

So, if you hear David Wood keeps saying the Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and Abu Dawud are the "most trusted sources", he is lying! His tongue is black!

 

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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2017, 11:57:12 PM »
Asalam ul laykum brothers, the thing is most people do not realize what David Wood is doing. what he is stating about Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim and and Abu Dawud being most reliable sources, isn't necessarily untrue. HOWEVER, he is being ambiguous and not entirely truthful. AFTER Quran, yes these are the most trust sources. but are they completely trusted sources? no their not, the COMPLETELY TRUSTED SOURCE is Quran. He is putting to much emphasis on most reliable sources. What i have learnt watching and listening and debating with Christians and other people is that people while they act like their being honest, by withholding any part of the full truth. but stating only half of the truth then u end up distorting the whole thing. It is a trick they play to fool people to submit to their rhetoric. It isn't surprising they learnt this from Paul the Pharisee.   ;)   

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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2017, 01:29:33 PM »

Salam alaikum
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Please delete the anti-islamic link of this clown

Thank you.

Female genital cutting is “term used to refer to any practice which includes the removal or the alteration of the female genitalia.”:

Type I: This is the mildest form of FGC, which includes removing or splitting the prepuce (foreskin or ‘hood’) which covers the clitoris of females, thus exposing the glans. This may be couple with partial or total excision of the clitoris. This is known as clitoridotomy (slang: hoodectomy). According to the United Nations Population Fund, this form is comparable to male circumcision.[7] This is sometimes also called “sunna circumcision” due to the fact that it is this type which is performed commonly by those Muslims who believe it to be legislated in Islam.

Type Ia, removal of the clitoral hood or prepuce only; WHO refers to this type as "female circumcision".
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Type Ib, removal of the clitoris with the prepuce.


Type II: In this type, known as clitoridectomy, the clitoris and labia minora is partially or totally removed.

Type III: This is one of the most extreme forms of FGC, involving the total excision of the clitoris, both the labia minora and majora, and the joining of the two sides of the vulva across the vagina, sewn with thread or secured with other items, until it heals joining together. Only a small, pencil-size hole is left to allow passage of menstrual blood and urine. This is known as infibulation or Pharaonic Circumcision, in reference to its origins.
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Type IV: This type is inclusive of all other forms of genital cutting, such as: pricking, piercing or incision of the clitoris and/or labia; stretching of the clitoris and/or labia; cauterization by burning of the clitoris and surrounding tissue; introcision, scraping (angurya cuts) or cutting (gishri cuts) of the vagina or surrounding tissue; and introduction of corrosive substances or herbs into the vagina.



It is key to note, however, that it is only this first type which some of the scholars regarded as commendable

Islamically

This practice was accepted by some of the classical schools of law and is practiced today by some Muslims.

The basis in Islamic law is that it is not permissible to cause bodily harm and any such practice of female circumcision proven to be harmful would be unlawful.

Ubaida ibn As-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

لاَ ضَرَرَ وَلاَ ضِرَارَ

Do not cause harm or return harm.​

Source: Sunan ibn Majah 2340, Grade: Hasan

There are a few weak traditions used to sanction the practice, but upon scrutiny we find that none of them are authentic.

Usama ibn Umair reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

الْخِتَانُ سُنَّةٌ لِلرِّجَالِ مَكْرُمَةٌ لِلنِّسَاءِ

Circumcision is a sunnah for men and honorable for women.​

Source: Musnad Ahmad 20195, Grade: Da’eef (weak)

Umm Atiyyah reported: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina and the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

لَا تُنْهِكِي فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ أَحْظَى لِلْمَرْأَةِ وَأَحَبُّ إِلَى الْبَعْلِ

Do not cut severely, as it is better for the woman and more desirable for the husband.​

Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 5271, Grade: Da’eef (weak)

Famous scholars of Islam based their fiqh on quran and "authentic" hadith.

Imam Abu Hanifah: “If a hadith is found to be authentic, then it is my madhab.”
’When I say something contradicting the Book of Allah the Exalted or what is narrated from the Messenger [​IMG], then ignore my saying.’’

Imam Malik: “Everyone after the Prophet will have their statements accepted or rejected except the Prophet.”

Imam Shafi: “Every hadith of the Prophet is my position even if you did not hear it from me.”

Imam Ahmad: “If one rejects a hadith of the Messenger of Allah, they will be at the brink of destruction.”

However, if a scholar thinks of an evidence as true, and later the evidence was proved to be Daiif, then that's no longer his position as they explicitly stressed.

And Allah knows best.

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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2017, 02:54:57 PM »
Sama,

I don't know how to delete the anti-Islamic link. Why?

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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 11:16:13 AM »
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Salam alaikum
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Please delete the anti-islamic link of this clown

Thank you.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Done akhi Sama.  May Allah Almighty bless you and the brothers here for your efforts.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: My rebutal to David Wood for FGM in Islam
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 11:43:40 AM »
I'm not sure why brother Sama want to delete the anti-Islamic link, but you don't have to click on it. LOL!