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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2017, 12:40:39 PM »
As'salam Alaikum brother Osama plz make a article about it cuz someone commented on a video saying:

I Got some replies for her but i'm tired right now if i'm gone debate with her while feeling like this i get frustrated this is why i asked for a article so i can copy & paste or send the article you know lol and yeah i read answering-christianity.com/warning.htm it's just i can't debate right now, not only that her questions is already answered in the video but i don't get it why she send this comment then is it maybe because she didn't watch the video fully? I even send a link but it's in the description she didn't even bother to read it (answering-christianity.com/warning.htm).

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZna12JAAM


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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2017, 02:24:36 PM »
salam alaikum
authentic narrations :
Sahih al-Bukhari, Number 232:

Narrated Aisha: “I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them.”

Sahih Muslim, Number 669:

It was narrated that Aishah said concerning semen: “I used to scratch it from the garment of the Messenger of Allah.”

Sahih al-Bukhari, Number 230:
عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ بْنِ يَسَارٍ، قَالَ سَأَلْتُ عَائِشَةَ عَنِ الْمَنِيِّ، يُصِيبُ الثَّوْبَ فَقَالَتْ كُنْتُ أَغْسِلُهُ مِنْ ثَوْبِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم، فَيَخْرُجُ إِلَى الصَّلاَةِ وَأَثَرُ الْغَسْلِ فِي ثَوْبِهِ بُقَعُ الْمَاءِ‏.‏
Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar: “I asked Aishah about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, ‘I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah’s Messenger and he would go for the Salat (prayer) while water spots were still visible.’”
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/4/97
Mani (sperm) is pure according to the majority of the Muslim scholars even though removing its stains from the clothes is better in order to keep the cleanliness than leaving it. ‘Aa’shah may Allaah be pleased with her the mother of the believers, used to remove the sperm from the clothes of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ).

As for washing urine stains from the body and the clothes, it is obligatory.

Therefore, a person should take all precautions in order to avoid becoming impure by drops of urine, by seeking a suitable place and adopting proper ways for relieving oneself.

The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said: “Keep away from urine since most torment of the grave is due to not avoiding urine.” [Al-Daruqutni, Sheikh al-Albani considered it as sound].

In brief, washing the urine from the body and clothes is compulsory if it is much.  If it is only in a little quantity, then some scholars from the Shaafi’i, Maaliki and Hanafi Schools are of the opinion that such a small quantity is tolerable and washing it is not compulsory. They have different opinions in determining the amount that is considered as small and when it reaches the amount that is considered as much, it should then be washed.  The Maaliki School is of the opinion that if a fly leaves some stains of urine or feces which are not noticeable and to avoid that is very hard for people, then such a quantity is considered little and is tolerable. The Hanafi School is of the opinion that if the quantity does not exceed the size of a Dirham, then it is tolerable.

Some other scholars, like those of the Hanbali School, are of the opinion that there is no difference between a small and a large amount of impurity as far as the matter of purity is concerned except if it is so small that it is not noticeable, such as some trace of blood on one’s clothes which could be excused.

The opinion of the Hanbali School is the preponderant one since there is no evidence that supports the first opinion. Also, there is no evidence that can be used as criterion to determine the small quantity.

Therefore, if one’s clothes become impure, one has to remove the impurity regardless of the quantity.  If one cannot remove it and the time of the prayer is about to end, then one may perform the prayer in those clothes since Allah does not burden a soul beyond its scope.

Allah Knows best.
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=87657

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2017, 02:29:19 PM »

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2017, 03:32:14 PM »
not helping.

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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2017, 04:25:19 PM »
not helping.
The hadith is clear. The anti-islamist makes fun of it and ridicules it and wants muslims to reject it.


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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2017, 05:48:55 PM »
Nevermind for now replied to her gone wait for her to reply back.

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2017, 08:21:11 PM »
Asalamullaykum brothers, very interesting topic. I have wondered about the shahih bukhari and muslim for a long time. There are hadith that seem morally and fundementally non-islamic. I found this link research by others brothers into more corruption of hadiths and how they contridict quran itself.

http://submission.org/Corruption_of_Religion.html

Also very interesting point was raised other than you brothers truthexplorer and osama, raised anout there immorality and contridiction. In the above link another point was made was that those reporting certain hadiths did so for political reasons aswell.

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2017, 08:56:50 PM »
Here is another account that sheds some light on the sibject, that most of us muslims have been trained to believe that since the hadith are from sahih bukhari or sahih muslim they must be all 100% this is not correct because trained scholars themselves say that sahih bukhari and muslim have the most reliable hadith, but doesnt mean it is completely relaible meaning they may still be certain errors and contridictions. So basically if a hadith isnt confirmed in quran, and contridicts quran then it needs to be thrown to way side.

http://www.mohammedamin.com/Community_issues/How-reliable-are-hadith.html

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2017, 11:55:26 PM »
Asalamullaykum brothers,
Also very interesting point was raised other than you brothers truthexplorer and osama, raised anout there immorality and contridiction. In the above link another point was made was that those reporting certain hadiths did so for political reasons aswell.
wa alaikum assalam
It seems you like to post links to hadeeth-rejection sites. Anyway, nothing about the hadeeth mentioned above is wrong or immoral.

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2017, 03:10:26 AM »
Brother it seems u misunderstand. There are indeed corrupted hadith, however i never said all hadith are corrupted. If you pay attention to my full statement, i made a clear case that what ever hadith contridicts the quran is clearly a corruption. Since quran can never be contridicted. Also another thing to note is just because the source went to far on bashing hadith which clearly he is mislead into beleving all hadith are wrong, he did mention some points that should be looked into such as the after the 4 caliph period, there were much division and also note that there are abundent of hadith with narrators who are dubious. So it is important to look if the hadith dors not make morally sense and its logic doesn't compare with rasool saw then we shouldnt take that hadith with such conviction. Also i am only posting what i find, allah swt knows how much love i have for our beautiful faith, if i say something wrong may allah azawajal forgive me, ameen.

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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2017, 05:56:34 AM »
And hence the science of hadeeth was established.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/asa3.html

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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2017, 12:24:18 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Much of the classifications of the hadiths are conjectures at best.  300 years after the Prophet, the project of writing down the Hadiths began.  And so, people started collecting writings from different sources and evaluating the texts.  While it is a noble project, but you can't use the hadiths as authority when they disagree with the Glorious Quran.  Everything that disagrees with the Glorious Quran should be automatically invalid:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm


What I find most blasphemous and obnoxious about certain clowns that are deep into the "science of hadiths" is that when one starts challenging their conjecture about the sahih volumes' authenticity, they start attacking the Glorious Quran's preservation.  The conversation will end up with something like this:

"Well if we can't trust the narrators of the Hadiths, then we can't trust the Quran, because the Quran was also compiled and written by them."

The problem with this shallow statement is:

1-  The Glorious Quran was documented and preserved ON THE SPOT.  Not 300 years later.

2-  The Glorious Quran was memorized by many Muslims.

3-  Muslims are commanded to read the Glorious Quran in Its entirety on regular basis, and in several religious occasions, such as the Holy Month of Ramadan.

4-  Muslim imams who lead the Prayers are commanded to read the entire Glorious Quran in sequences (read parts of It in every prayer).

These are some of the reasons why the Glorious Quran was 1000% preserved to the Vowel, not only to the Letter.  Even the way we read the Glorious Quran had been perfectly preserved.  For more details, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links



The comparison is just ludicrous!

I had many arguments with doofus Muslims before on this topic.  The stupidity of religionists in general is too much to bear sometimes.  This is one example.  He is more than willing to throw his Holy Quran in the garbage just to save the load of nonsense that exists in Sahih Bukhari and other volumes.  This is despite the fact that far too many hadiths in Bukhari and others were clearly proven to be fabrications and lies.  Again, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

I hope this helps.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2017, 05:04:46 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Much of the classifications of the hadiths are conjectures at best.  300 years after the Prophet, the project of writing down the Hadiths began.  And so, people started collecting writings from different sources and evaluating the texts.  While it is a noble project, but you can't use the hadiths as authority when they disagree with the Glorious Quran.  Everything that disagrees with the Glorious Quran should be automatically invalid:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm


What I find most blasphemous and obnoxious about certain clowns that are deep into the "science of hadiths" is that when one starts challenging their conjecture about the sahih volumes' authenticity, they start attacking the Glorious Quran's preservation.  The conversation will end up with something like this:

"Well if we can't trust the narrators of the Hadiths, then we can't trust the Quran, because the Quran was also compiled and written by them."

The problem with this shallow statement is:

1-  The Glorious Quran was documented and preserved ON THE SPOT.  Not 300 years later.

2-  The Glorious Quran was memorized by many Muslims.

3-  Muslims are commanded to read the Glorious Quran in Its entirety on regular basis, and in several religious occasions, such as the Holy Month of Ramadan.

4-  Muslim imams who lead the Prayers are commanded to read the entire Glorious Quran in sequences (read parts of It in every prayer).

These are some of the reasons why the Glorious Quran was 1000% preserved to the Vowel, not only to the Letter.  Even the way we read the Glorious Quran had been perfectly preserved.  For more details, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links



The comparison is just ludicrous!

I had many arguments with doofus Muslims before on this topic.  The stupidity of religionists in general is too much to bear sometimes.  This is one example.  He is more than willing to throw his Holy Quran in the garbage just to save the load of nonsense that exists in Sahih Bukhari and other volumes.  This is despite the fact that far too many hadiths in Bukhari and others were clearly proven to be fabrications and lies.  Again, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

I hope this helps.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Alhamduillah Brother Osama Should I Make part 2 video or are you gone make the video? or are you gonna make short Article about It or both O.O?
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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2017, 05:14:28 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond to your other post earlier.  Yes brother, please make all of the necessary videos.  Jazaka Allah Khayr for your hard work.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah