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Help, Explanation Needed
« on: December 26, 2016, 11:38:09 AM »
David wood Quoted this:
`A’ishah said, speaking about semen: “I would simply rub it off the clothes of Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) and he would pray in them.” In another narration, she said: “I used to, if it was dry, scrape it off his clothes with my nail.”

So I Decided To Search the Context (for rebuttal) the Context said it wasn't The Holy Prophet semen at all (Astagfirullah) but i don't really get what the context said Fully:

"The context of the hadîth is given in Sahîh Muslim. A man had stayed one night at `A’ishah’s residence. The next morning, her servant saw him washing his clothing, so she went to `A’ishah and informed her of it. `A’ishah sent back a message asking the man why he was washing his clothes. He sent back to her a message saying that he had seen in a dream what a sleeper sees. She sent back to him saying: “It would have been enough for you, if you saw it on your clothing, to simply wash the spot. If you did not see it, it would have been enough to sprinkle water around it, for I would simply rub it off the clothes of Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) and he would pray in them.”"

Context taken from: http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-377-3283.htm

more rebuttal:
Sahih Al-Bukhari

Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299:

Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad:

(on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could."


Sahih Muslim

Book 006, Number 2439:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) used to kiss (his wives) while fasting and embraced (them) while fasting; but he had the greatest mastery over his desire among you.

Quran 68:4
"And verily, you (O Muhammad) are on an exalted Standard of character"

Quran 21:107
"And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds."

“O people! Beware of relating a lot of Hadeeth about me! Whoever says anything about me must not say except the truth, for whoever ascribes to me what I have not said, let him occupy his seat in the Hell-fire!”
(Mushkil-ul- Aathaar, 413, 414; Musnad Ahmad, 22538)

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 12:26:00 PM »

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 02:37:43 PM »
Lol Anybody here?

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 05:22:55 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Ok, you raised a very important topic, because I've been researching it myself recently.  The Glorious Quran is clear about not coming near your wife when she's on her monthly period.  Allah Almighty gives two Commands to the husbands regarding their wives who are menstruating:

1-  Do not touch them.
2-  Do not come near them.

‏2:222 ويسألونك عن المحيض قل هو اذى فاعتزلوا النساء في المحيض ولاتقربوهن حتى يطهرن فاذا تطهرن فاتوهن من حيث امركم الله ان الله يحب التوابين ويحب المتطهرين


[002:222] And they ask you about menstruation. Say: It is a discomfort; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near ولاتقربوهن them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much (to Him), and He loves those who purify themselves.


So you can't have sex with them, and you're not allowed to touch them or be near them.

Also, the Glorious Quran Commands the Muslims to purify their clothes and keep them clean.  So washing is the best thing to do, and not just scraping the impurity off:

From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

Pious Clothes لباس التقوى are mandatory upon the Believers to wear.  Purify and Clean and Wash your clothes (‏وثيابك فطهر).  See Noble Verses 7:26, 24:58-60, 74:4-5.



Aisha's Islam?

The hadiths narrate on Aisha all kinds of things that some of them are quite outrageous and ridiculous!  Like the Prophet used to have sex with her while showering and she was in her period.  These are lies that were invented on the Prophet and on the mouth of Aisha, and they are in contradiction with the Quran:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6NE9xtotnc

Youtube: السيد كمال الحيدري: رسول الله يباشر عائشة وهي حائض

Research it further on Youtube.

I will write about this more, insha'Allah.



Why even mention this??

What kind of an ill-raised ill-mannered woman speak about having sex with her husband while they're in the shower anyway??  This is when Allah Almighty Commands the Muslims, men and women, to be in the highest standards in modesty and chastity.  So much that women are forbidden from striking their heels on the ground to make sounds that attract men to them!  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm

And Aisha is running her mouth about her sexual life with the Prophet??  Either these are clear lies on the Prophet, for the Prophet CAN NOT contradict the Glorious Quran, or Aisha was ill-raised by her parents. 

I take the first option.  These are lies that were invented by the liars and hypocrites and haters of Aisha and the Prophet.  The Prophet was not allowed to come near his wives while they were on their monthly periods.  Let alone fondling with them and having sex with them while showering.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm



It's always Aisha, and only Aisha:

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, had many wives.  But notice that it is always Aisha, and only Aisha, who narrates these sexual hadiths.  This is another clear proof that they are lies that were invented by the liars and hypocrites on Aisha and the Prophet.  She had many haters, and the hypcorites and liars saw in her weak spot to attack the Prophet and Islam from.

Otherwise, how come none of the other wives of the Prophet narrate these hadiths??  Did he live in celibacy with the other wives??

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2016, 03:54:03 AM »
Thanks! You said more Explanation will come is that true or is it explained, but this is enough to refute the fun islamic lie 15 of acts17 :)

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2016, 03:57:20 AM »
You are welcome, dear brother.  I think this is it for now.  And yes, thank you, please keep bringing these up here to be refuted, insha'Allah.  I will create a library of them and post them on the website and make videos of them, insha'Allah.  Please feel free to make your own videos and post them to refute the infidels, dear brother.

Jazaka Allah Khayr.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 04:05:44 AM »
Well, Reason I came Here so i can create a new video refutingliardavidwood17 here is his video i refuted the child bride and the others stuff i just got the problems with the hadith so i came, here is the video btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfDYzY-shBA

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 04:16:18 AM »
Good dear brother.  Please share your link when you're done so we can propagate it on this website and also on youtube.  We need Muslims to hit back on youtube.  I keep want to do it but keep getting too busy.  So if you can do it, insha'Allah, then that would be fantastic :).

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 04:21:33 AM »
Sure!

Jazak'Allah Khair :)

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 04:40:34 AM »
Osama It's a Fabrication:
After mentioning this hadîth in his Sunan, al-Dâraqutnî comments: “It has not been related on the authority of anyone else besides Thâbit b. Hammâd who is a very weak narrator. Ibrâhîm and Thâbit are both weak.” [Sunan al-Dâraqutnî (1/127)]

Ibn `Adî records this hadîth in his book about weak narrators when he discusses Thâbit b. Hammâd. He writes: “I know of no one else besides Thâbit b. Hammâd to have narrated this hadîth from `Alî b. Zayd…Thâbit b. Hammâd has related other hadîth besides these, wherein he contradicts – in both their texts and chains of transmission – hadîth related by reliable narrators. His hadîth are false and contradictory.” [Ibn `Adi, al-Kâmil fî Du`afâ’ al-Rijâl (2/524525)]

Al-Haythamî writes about this hadîth: “It has been related by al-Tabarânî in al-Awsat and al-Kabîr as well as by Abû Ya`lâ. All of its chains of transmission center upon Thâbit b. Hammâd who is a very weak narrator.

Al-Bayhaqî, after relating the hadîth in his Sunan, writes: “This is false and baseless. It is related with no other chain of transmission besides that of Thâbit b. Hammâd from `Alî b. Zayd from Ibn al-Musayyib from `Ammâr. `Alî b. Zayd’s hadîth are not suitable as evidence and Thâbit b. Hammâd is suspected of fabricating hadîth.” [Sunan al-Bayhaqî (1/15)]

Ibn al-Turkumân, in his commentary on al-Bayhaqî’s work, clears Thâbit of the crime of hadîth fabrication, saying: “As for his being accused of fabricating hadîth, after thoroughly researching the matter, I did not come across anyone else besides al-Bayhaqî to have made such a claim. Al-Bayhaqî himself mentions this hadîth elsewhere – in his book al-Ma`rifah – and merely declared Thâbit to be a weak narrator without accusing him of fabrication.” [Ibn al-Turkumân, al-Jawâhir al-Naqî (1/15)]

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 07:42:15 AM »
I'm done with my video should I upload it or do you got more points? :)

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 09:40:37 AM »
hmm Yeah I'm gone upload it..


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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2016, 06:22:05 AM »
So hows the video Brother Osama :)
If you got more points i can create a part 2 or whatever..

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Re: Help, Explanation Needed
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2016, 02:08:24 AM »
Jazaka Allah Khayr for the video, dear brother.  I will insha'Allah add it to David Wood's rebuttal section. 

Take care,
Osama Abdallah