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Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
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Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 11:19:38 am »
Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud. most of these findings already exist on answering-christianity. You should go visit the page where brothers Idres and Osama, were doing research in regards to the name Ahmad in Dead Sea Scrolls. Regarding name muhammad pbuh, in their bible. It actually, isn't a debatable area, the reason is that Muhammad apparently is also a word in Hebrew that doesn't relate to a person. Which is why allah swt told us that the name "Ahmad" is in the Torah. Also the section regarding Mount Sila and Paran, is a good part to keep. Also i came to conclusion that song of soloman does not mention prophet muhammad pbuh, because in there muhammad pbuh is being used as a word rather than a name, if u try to make it into a name it would just not fit the entire story, there would be gramatical mistakes then. However, Isiah 41, does indeed on multiple accounts mention prophet muhammad pbuh, by prediction of his deeds, prediction of his arrival, prediction of his character which is also confirmed by the scholarly yahudi that became a muslim during prophet muhammad pbuh time and by specific location, since no other prophet other than prophet muhammad pbuh went to these specific locations it can only sum up as that this was a prediction about him.

I also like the fact you showed the hebrew word ahmad translation through a translation site. If this is done by you great job on putting all these work together. If not, please site the reference, thanks, jazakallah kyarum.

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Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 11:27:55 am »
Also note, that Song of Solomon mentions that he will "Shout and Roar." this isn't the character of rasool saw, thus it makes song of solomon not a reliable source to point out evidence that muhammad pbuh was mentioned in bible. However, the Isaiah 42 and the rest info are solid proof. The objection that the christian and jews state, "You are not reading it in the context." Then the question lies, What context? they don't have any info regarding in what circumstances these things were said. Truth of the fact is, Jesus pbuh and rest of the prophets pbuthem, recieved tablet a 1 complete source, but prophet muhammad pbuh, recieved revelation throughout his life. There is no real historical context in regards to when or why these verses were mentioned. If there is i would love to read up on it, but besides the point. There objection to the ahmad pbuh and isaiah 42, is very weak. But we shouldn't hold on to song of solomon and bible of barnabas because, 1. song of solomon doesn't actually mention ahmad, but muhammad as a word, thus isn't comparable to the quran. 2. Bible of Barnabas has contradictions that even goes against our own religion.

But great findings brother. jazakallah kayrum.

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Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 03:01:12 pm »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Jazaka Allah Khayr dear brother Dawud for the beautiful post.  I love the clarity and simplicity of it.  I will insha'Allah use it.

One addition akhi, AHMED isn't just another nickname for Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  It is also his Prophetic name in the old scriptures.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2017, 09:22:35 am »
Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud. most of these findings already exist on answering-christianity. You should go visit the page where brothers Idres and Osama, were doing research in regards to the name Ahmad in Dead Sea Scrolls. Regarding name muhammad pbuh, in their bible. It actually, isn't a debatable area, the reason is that Muhammad apparently is also a word in Hebrew that doesn't relate to a person. Which is why allah swt told us that the name "Ahmad" is in the Torah. Also the section regarding Mount Sila and Paran, is a good part to keep. Also i came to conclusion that song of soloman does not mention prophet muhammad pbuh, because in there muhammad pbuh is being used as a word rather than a name, if u try to make it into a name it would just not fit the entire story, there would be gramatical mistakes then. However, Isiah 41, does indeed on multiple accounts mention prophet muhammad pbuh, by prediction of his deeds, prediction of his arrival, prediction of his character which is also confirmed by the scholarly yahudi that became a muslim during prophet muhammad pbuh time and by specific location, since no other prophet other than prophet muhammad pbuh went to these specific locations it can only sum up as that this was a prediction about him.

I also like the fact you showed the hebrew word ahmad translation through a translation site. If this is done by you great job on putting all these work together. If not, please site the reference, thanks, jazakallah kyarum.

yes i know these stuff are on answering christianity, but i collected it as illustartive material, so people can easy spot this

but here my latest finding which cant be find on answering_christianity

brother Osama use this photo for your work,

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Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 09:31:06 am »
Also note, that Song of Solomon mentions that he will "Shout and Roar." this isn't the character of rasool saw, thus it makes song of solomon not a reliable source to point out evidence that muhammad pbuh was mentioned in bible. However, the Isaiah 42 and the rest info are solid proof. The objection that the christian and jews state, "You are not reading it in the context." Then the question lies, What context? they don't have any info regarding in what circumstances these things were said. Truth of the fact is, Jesus pbuh and rest of the prophets pbuthem, recieved tablet a 1 complete source, but prophet muhammad pbuh, recieved revelation throughout his life. There is no real historical context in regards to when or why these verses were mentioned. If there is i would love to read up on it, but besides the point. There objection to the ahmad pbuh and isaiah 42, is very weak. But we shouldn't hold on to song of solomon and bible of barnabas because, 1. song of solomon doesn't actually mention ahmad, but muhammad as a word, thus isn't comparable to the quran. 2. Bible of Barnabas has contradictions that even goes against our own religion.

But great findings brother. jazakallah kayrum.

i dont agree with you about Muhammed in song of Solomon

why beacuse , only in song of Solomon Muhammadim is metnioned, nowhere else, all other places as adjective, but here as noun

in the contextin same song of Solomon it says:

1. Muhammad
2. leader among 10 000, muhammed was leader among 10 000 Soldiers  when he netered Mekka
3. His hair was black and wavy, his hair was wavy according to hadith
4. He would be ruddy, his was White/red skin accoding to hadith
5. and last it says as Arab, they translated this as Raven

even though it clearly says Aorb but they translatwed this as Raven, and if we look in Another places same Word is used for Arabs, and in one particular Place

it says And the ravens, raven fed prophet elijaha with bread and flesh, even christian says this means arabs not ravens, beacuse ravens and arabs are wirtten same in original hebrew without wovels, now difference at all.

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Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 01:38:41 am »
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Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2017, 04:23:59 am »
The Bible proves Prophet MOSES did pilgrimage to MECCA, INTERESTING Insight by a JEWISH writer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0NvrksQr0

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