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Question: Why Did The Prophet (sallahu alaihi wassalam) Eat Rabbit When It Was Forbidden In The Torah?

Leviticus 11:1-6
The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘Of all the animals that live on land, these are the ones you may eat: 3 You may eat any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud.
4 “‘There are some that only chew the cud or only have a divided hoof, but you must not eat them. The camel, though it chews the cud, does not have a divided hoof; it is ceremonially unclean for you. 5 The hyrax, though it chews the cud, does not have a divided hoof; it is unclean for you. 6 The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a divided hoof; it is unclean for you.

“We chased a rabbit at ‘Mar az Zahran. The people ran after it but got tired. I got to it, took it and brought it to Abu Talhah (radiyallahu ‘anhu) who slaughtered it and sent its haunch or thighs to Rasulullah (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). [Shu’bah rahimahullah, one of the narrators said, “There is no doubt that it was its thighs”] Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) accepted it. I asked, ‘Did he eat some of it?’ He replied, ‘He ate some of it.’ Then he later said, ‘He accepted it.’
(Sahih Bukhari, Hadith: 2572. Also see: Hadith: 5489, Sahih Muslim, Hadith: 1953 and Fathul Bari, Hadith: 5535)

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Laws of torah don't apply to muslims. God made laws/sharia for every prophet.

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Asalam ul laykum brother TruthExposer, i hope this can help.

http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/69984/what-is-todays-jewish-explanation-for-why-rabbit-meat-is-unkosher

Let me know if u need any help in the research regards to this topic.

Keep up the great work brother, jazakallah kayrum.

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Jews classify rabbit for same impurity as poek. However, if u look at the effects from consumption of it, it is not at all alike. Even though rabbit produce 2 forms of scat, 1 that is half-dogested and they have to re-dogest it, while the other they do not touch at all. This is because of their weak digestive system.

While pork causes much harm in regards to colesteral and high blood pressure, many ofher illuneses, rabbits however provide rich proteins. While being reduced in fat they provide 3 times the serving of meat of a cow. Also it is important to note that for us muslims, the cow and rabbit falls into same category. They both digest their own scat. However, it is so to gain specific nutrients. This however, has no effect on the consumer.

Plus rabbit does not fit into the criteria of forbidden animals in the shariah.

Quran 2:173 "He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Also those animals with fangs and talons are made haram aswell. So no where is there any indication of a rabbit.

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Salam can we chat in private (here) or atleast on facebook just create a account in 2-mins, btw i need to wait for my pc getting fixed so i can make videos again, let's chat here in private then shall we?
Jews classify rabbit for same impurity as poek. However, if u look at the effects from consumption of it, it is not at all alike. Even though rabbit produce 2 forms of scat, 1 that is half-dogested and they have to re-dogest it, while the other they do not touch at all. This is because of their weak digestive system.

While pork causes much harm in regards to colesteral and high blood pressure, many ofher illuneses, rabbits however provide rich proteins. While being reduced in fat they provide 3 times the serving of meat of a cow. Also it is important to note that for us muslims, the cow and rabbit falls into same category. They both digest their own scat. However, it is so to gain specific nutrients. This however, has no effect on the consumer.

Plus rabbit does not fit into the criteria of forbidden animals in the shariah.

Quran 2:173 "He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Also those animals with fangs and talons are made haram aswell. So no where is there any indication of a rabbit.

Asalam ul laykum brother TruthExposer, i hope this can help.

http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/69984/what-is-todays-jewish-explanation-for-why-rabbit-meat-is-unkosher

Let me know if u need any help in the research regards to this topic.

Keep up the great work brother, jazakallah kayrum.

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Sure brother let me know what time u want to chat at Ziyad Chat

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Sure brother let me know what time u want to chat at Ziyad Chat

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Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the TORAH and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is RIGHT and forbids them what is WRONG  and makes lawful for them the good things (HALAL) and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful. (7:157)

There was a need even after Torah and Gospels,of a Prophet to finalize the choices of Halal and Haram.


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This information will help u bro.
HEALTH BENEFITS OF EATING RABBIT MEAT:

1. It is one of the best white meats available on the market today.

2. The meat has a high percentage of easily digestible protein.

3. It contains the least amount of fat among all the other available meets.

4. Rabbit meat contains less calorie value than other meats.

5. Rabbit meat is almost cholesterol free and therefore heart patient friendly.

6. The sodium content of rabbit meat is comparatively less than other meats.

7. The calcium and phosphorus contents of this meat or more than any other meats.

8. The ratio of me to bone is high meaning there is more edible meat on the carcass than even a chicken.

9. Rabbit meat with the many health benefits does not have a strong flavor and is comparable to chicken but not identical.

10. Rabbits are one of the most productive domestic livestock animal there is. Rabbits can produce 6 pounds of meat on the same feed and water as the cow will produce 1 pound of meat on the same feed and water

https://www.google.com/amp/s/riseandshinerabbitry.com/2012/04/06/10-reasons-why-you-should-eat-rabbit-meat/amp/

What are the benefits of rabbit meat ? 10 reasons that will make you eat at least once a week
the benefits of rabbit meat

 Benefits of rabbit meat
 1 - food very useful and ideal for pregnant women:  What You  the pregnant woman Always in Need to a healthy  food and quick to digest and rich in nutrients and rabbits meat is rich in  with vitamins, proteins and minerals also the fibers are easy to digest and chewing and with a good taste  so it's considered to be a very  an important food for pregnant women and children as well.

2. The elimination of obesity and slimming :We mentioned that rabbit meat contain a high proportion of protein and very low and low-fat ratio compared to other types of meat, proteins, of course, a very important vital processes in the body and one kilogram of it contains 350 calories and is thus less types of meat in proportion calories that provide the body with so rabbits meats are a good source of protein for people who are obese and want to lose weight.

 3. For patients with hypertension: The rabbit meat food, a very important and useful for patients who suffer from high blood pressure, and this is due to it contains a very small percentage of the element sodium in addition to fit on a balanced important nutrients ratios and so it is a wonderful food, in particular to people who suffering from high blood pressure.

4. Heart disease: rabbit meat is also a good food for heart patients as it is free of harmful cholesterol on cardiovascular health, which makes it a good food for people who suffer from heart disease.

5.  rabbit meat keeps on the bones and teeth health is due to  contain a high proportion of calcium wish is very important  element in bones and teeth formation .

 6. rabbit meat contains potassium, magnesium, where the two have an important interest in maintaining the health of the nervous system and strengthens the immune system and protects against stroke.

7. rabbit meat works to strengthens the sexual health because it contains zinc element wich help women against Infertility  and increase sexual potency in men.

 8. help get rid of anemia  due to the containment of rabbit meat a high percentage of iron wich is a very  important component of hemoglobin in the blood.

9. help build tissue and muscles, strengthen and this is due to contain a percentage of phosphorus element .

10. help rabbit meat to increase mental activity because they contain potassium, zinc and other  very useful elements for the body.

http://tophealthyeating.blogspot.com/2015/02/what-are-benefits-of-rabbit-meat-10.html?m=1

As we can see next to chicken, rabbit meat is among the MOST healthiest of meat. Also the fact that in quran it permits us to eat what is healthy and prophet muhammad pbuh eating the thigh provides more reasons for the rabbit to be a permissible meat.

The criteria that OT is providing seems to have nothing to do with health. But is talking in sense of ceremonial criteria. Which shouldn't be the reason for relate to consumption. Meaning the criteria mentioned in OT is irrelevant.

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Here is more information on to why the OT is irrelevant to us and to prophet Muhammad pbuh:

Quran[6:145] Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to ME [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animals or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."

Here "Me" referring to prophet Muhammad pbuh and us Muslims. this verse is the law for us what Allah swt has prohibited to us. Now lets compare it to what Quran says is prohibited to the Jews.

Quran[6:146] "And to those who are Jews We prohibited every animal of uncloven hoof; and of the cattle and the sheep We prohibited to them their fat, except what adheres to their backs or the entrails or what is joined with bone. [By] that We repaid them for their injustice. And indeed, We are truthful."

Above verse sheds light on WHY? did Allah swt give Jews such STRICT prohibitions, Simple, they were unjust and they received a STRICT punishment. So what is the difference between the Laws in Quran and Laws in Torah in regards to Food Prohibitions.

1. The food limitations in Torah are a means of punishment for Jews being transgressors because they continuously broke the command that Allah swt gave them when Moses pbuh was with them so the laws were given to them were STRICT and PUNISHMENT, so that they may learn from their own errors.

2. Food limitations in Quran are only regards to animals that are truly IMPURE and truly BAD FOR HEALTH.

3. Quran is the LAW for the Muslims, not OT(Torah) we know this from above verses because prophet Muhammad pbuh said "Which was REVEALED TO ME".

So Muslims, Rest in ease those who are confused, the Prohibitions in Torah are IRRELEVANT to us, because the LAW that Allah swt gave to us is QURAN.  =)



Also it seems not all camels were prohibited to the jews since if you look at this image:



you can see that camel hooves are split, thus meaning their must be a specific camel that was prohibited to them. Also as I mentioned in the earlier post, there is ABSOLUTLY NO indication in regards to rabbits in both Quran and the Sunnah, thus makes rabbits HALAL.


Quran [3:67] "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists."


This should be sufficient enough Brother TruthExposer, BTW, brother also note that the verse 146 indicates UNCLOVEN HOOF, as if it was their just to make things harder for them because they were unjust.

[2.211] Ask the Israelites how many a clear sign have We given them; and whoever changes the favor of Allah after it has come to him, then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

[2.246] Have you not considered the chiefs of the children of Israel after Musa, when they said to a prophet of theirs: Raise up for us a king, (that) we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.24] This is because they say: The fire shall not touch us but for a few days; and what they have forged deceives them in the matter of their religion.


[3.93] All food was lawful to the children of Israel except that which Israel had forbidden to himself, before the Taurat was revealed. Say: Bring then the Taurat and read it, if you are truthful.


[4.46] Of those who are Jews (there are those who) alter words from their places and say: We have heard and we disobey and: Hear, may you not be made to hear! and: Raina, distorting (the word) with their tongues and taunting about religion; and if they had said (instead): We have heard and we obey, and hearken, and unzurna it would have been better for them and more upright; but Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief, so they do not believe but a little.

[4.50] See how they forge the lie against Allah, and this is sufficient as a manifest sin.  (one of the forgeries was making usury permissible and certain alcohol permissible)

[4.161] And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement.

[4.160] Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way.

[5.78] Those who disbelieved from among the children of Israel were cursed by the tongue of Dawood and Isa, son of Marium; this was because they disobeyed and used to exceed the limit. (this is referring to the Pharisses and other munafik jews)

[7.138] And We made the children of Israel to pass the sea; then they came upon a people who kept to the worship of their idols. They said: O Musa! make for us a god as they have (their) gods. He said: Surely you are a people acting ignorantly:

[9:34] O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law [rabbis] and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah's way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah's way, announce to them a painful chastisement....

[17.4] And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolently with great insolence.

[61.14] O you who believe! be helpers (in the cause) of Allah, as~ Isa son of Marium said to (his) disciples: Who are my helpers in the cause of Allah? The disciples said: We are helpers (in the cause) of Allah. So a party of the children of Israel believed and another party disbelieved; then We aided those who believed against their enemy, and they became uppermost.



As you can see from above the Jews continuously disbelieved as we all Muslims know. so these Dietry prohibitions are specifically to the JEWS and not us Muslims nor prophet Muhammad pbuh nor any prophet.


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Here is more information on to why the OT is irrelevant to us and to prophet Muhammad pbuh:

Quran[6:145] Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to ME [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animals or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."

Here "Me" referring to prophet Muhammad pbuh and us Muslims. this verse is the law for us what Allah swt has prohibited to us. Now lets compare it to what Quran says is prohibited to the Jews.

Quran[6:146] "And to those who are Jews We prohibited every animal of uncloven hoof; and of the cattle and the sheep We prohibited to them their fat, except what adheres to their backs or the entrails or what is joined with bone. [By] that We repaid them for their injustice. And indeed, We are truthful."

Above verse sheds light on WHY? did Allah swt give Jews such STRICT prohibitions, Simple, they were unjust and they received a STRICT punishment. So what is the difference between the Laws in Quran and Laws in Torah in regards to Food Prohibitions.

1. The food limitations in Torah are a means of punishment for Jews being transgressors because they continuously broke the command that Allah swt gave them when Moses pbuh was with them so the laws were given to them were STRICT and PUNISHMENT, so that they may learn from their own errors.

2. Food limitations in Quran are only regards to animals that are truly IMPURE and truly BAD FOR HEALTH.

3. Quran is the LAW for the Muslims, not OT(Torah) we know this from above verses because prophet Muhammad pbuh said "Which was REVEALED TO ME".

So Muslims, Rest in ease those who are confused, the Prohibitions in Torah are IRRELEVANT to us, because the LAW that Allah swt gave to us is QURAN.  =)



Also it seems not all camels were prohibited to the jews since if you look at this image:



you can see that camel hooves are split, thus meaning their must be a specific camel that was prohibited to them. Also as I mentioned in the earlier post, there is ABSOLUTLY NO indication in regards to rabbits in both Quran and the Sunnah, thus makes rabbits HALAL.


Quran [3:67] "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists."


This should be sufficient enough Brother TruthExposer, BTW, brother also note that the verse 146 indicates UNCLOVEN HOOF, as if it was their just to make things harder for them because they were unjust.

[2.211] Ask the Israelites how many a clear sign have We given them; and whoever changes the favor of Allah after it has come to him, then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

[2.246] Have you not considered the chiefs of the children of Israel after Musa, when they said to a prophet of theirs: Raise up for us a king, (that) we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.24] This is because they say: The fire shall not touch us but for a few days; and what they have forged deceives them in the matter of their religion.


[3.93] All food was lawful to the children of Israel except that which Israel had forbidden to himself, before the Taurat was revealed. Say: Bring then the Taurat and read it, if you are truthful.


[4.46] Of those who are Jews (there are those who) alter words from their places and say: We have heard and we disobey and: Hear, may you not be made to hear! and: Raina, distorting (the word) with their tongues and taunting about religion; and if they had said (instead): We have heard and we obey, and hearken, and unzurna it would have been better for them and more upright; but Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief, so they do not believe but a little.

[4.50] See how they forge the lie against Allah, and this is sufficient as a manifest sin.  (one of the forgeries was making usury permissible and certain alcohol permissible)

[4.161] And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement.

[4.160] Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way.

[5.78] Those who disbelieved from among the children of Israel were cursed by the tongue of Dawood and Isa, son of Marium; this was because they disobeyed and used to exceed the limit. (this is referring to the Pharisses and other munafik jews)

[7.138] And We made the children of Israel to pass the sea; then they came upon a people who kept to the worship of their idols. They said: O Musa! make for us a god as they have (their) gods. He said: Surely you are a people acting ignorantly:

[9:34] O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law [rabbis] and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah's way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah's way, announce to them a painful chastisement....

[17.4] And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolently with great insolence.

[61.14] O you who believe! be helpers (in the cause) of Allah, as~ Isa son of Marium said to (his) disciples: Who are my helpers in the cause of Allah? The disciples said: We are helpers (in the cause) of Allah. So a party of the children of Israel believed and another party disbelieved; then We aided those who believed against their enemy, and they became uppermost.



As you can see from above the Jews continuously disbelieved as we all Muslims know. so these Dietry prohibitions are specifically to the JEWS and not us Muslims nor prophet Muhammad pbuh nor any prophet.


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Yes, but I'm also looking after my kid, so if I don't answer don't worry I will in little bit.