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7:43 83:34
« on: April 26, 2017, 06:49:04 PM »
Assalam alikum some say this is a contradiction because 7:43 says we won't have malice but 83:34 says we will jazzakallah

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2017, 05:11:26 PM »
83:34 is simply implying that Believers will laugh at disbelievers when the Disbelievers realize the truth.

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 06:48:54 PM »
But you are laughing at someone because there wrong isn't that a form of malice isn't it possible that 7:43 means only to the believers in heaven but not to the disbelievers in he'll that would make sense because if Allah and the angles can get angry at them can't we jazzakallah that 7:43 means to the people in heaven while 83:34 means to the disbelievers because then that wouldn't be a contradiction jazzakallah

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2017, 02:18:36 AM »
It isn't a contradiction, it isn't malice because if we laugh at a disbeliever in hell,it isn't malice since we aren't torturing him,an angel is.

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2017, 10:41:16 AM »
Well it is still malice because you are enjoying them getting hurt that is malice jazzakallah

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2017, 06:14:14 AM »
Not really since Quran justifies this by saying "
"Indeed, those who committed crimes used to laugh at those who believed."(83:29)

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2017, 06:16:05 AM »
And 7:43 doesn't say we cannot do Malice,if you consider it malice


"And We will have removed whatever is within their breasts of resentment, [while] flowing beneath them are rivers. And they will say, "Praise to Allah, who has guided us to this; and we would never have been guided if Allah had not guided us. Certainly the messengers of our Lord had come with the truth." And they will be called, "This is Paradise, which you have been made to inherit for what you used to do.""(7:43)

Does any part of the verse say we cannot laugh at anyone being tortured for their sins?

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2017, 08:59:29 AM »
Well what does 7:43 mean too you because too me god is saying god will remove any hatred we had but if will be laughing at the disbelievers that is hatred the best way I make sense of it us 7:43 is talking about the people of paradise not hating each other but not about the people of he'll in what 7:43 means is it is for paradise people not about he'll but too you what does it mean

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 12:01:40 PM »
Any thoughts sorry

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2017, 02:12:23 PM »
By the resentment it means sins,like anger,etc not hatred,Even if it was hatred,it was only towards people of the heaven.

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Re: 7:43 83:34
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2017, 06:24:38 PM »
Ok thanks so yea 7:43 it is only talking about with the people of heaven but anger is not a sin it's only a sin depending how you use it like it is ok to get angry at sins but yea that verse only means with the people of heaven thanks