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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth

"Hebrew spelling: חֵית‎

Pronunciation[edit]
In Modern Israeli Hebrew (and Ashkenazi Hebrew, although not under strict pronunciation), the letter Ḥet (חֵית‎) usually has the sound value of a voiceless uvular fricative (/χ/), as the historical phonemes of the letters Ḥet ח (/ħ/) and Khaf כ (/x/) merged, both becoming the voiceless uvular fricative ([χ]).

In more rare phonologies, it is pronounced as a voiceless pharyngeal fricative (/ħ/) and is still among Mizrahim (especially among the older generation and popular Mizrahi singers, mostly Yemenies), in accordance with oriental Jewish traditions.

The ability to pronounce the Arabic letter ḥāʾ (ح) correctly as a voiceless pharyngeal fricative /ħ/ is often used as a shibboleth to distinguish Arabic-speakers from non-Arabic-speakers; in particular, pronunciation of the letter as /x/ is seen as a hallmark of Ashkenazi Jews and Greek Jews.

Ḥet is one of the few Hebrew consonants that can take a vowel at the end of a word. This occurs when patach gnuva comes under the Ḥet at the end of the word. The combination is then pronounced /-aχ/ rather than /-χa/. For example: פתוח (/ˌpaˈtuaχ/), and תפוח (/ˌtaˈpuaχ/)."
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http://ulpan.com/two-sounds-to-the-letter-%D7%97-het-httpktzat-ivrit-ulpan-com/

"The letter ח”ת (het) is pronounced by most Hebrew speakers today the same way the כ is pronounced – like a kh sound (not found in Modern English). In some Jewish communities (North African, Yemenite), however, it is still pronounced just above the throat, with no voice – like a scratchy “h” sound.

This guttural sound was one of two sounds that the letter ח represented in Biblical Hebrew. The other sound was more similar to today’s כ.

And what did the כ sound like (represented without a dot in the middle)? It was a “k” sound (כּ), but slightly softer than a regular “k” when following a vowel – such as in the word אָכֵן (ah-KHEN – indeed).

ח is the first letter in the word חוֹמָה (hoh-MAH), which means “wall” (such as that of a city). Today is Shushan Purim, or the observance of Purim in cities that have had a wall standing since the days of Joshua. Jerusalem is one of those cities.

So happy Shushan Purim!"
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Other important links:

https://www.google.com/#q=%D7%AA+het
http://www.morfix.co.il/en/%D7%97%D7%99%22%D7%AA


"חי"ת
Het (eighth letter of Hebrew alphabet) ; Het-shaped (three sides of a rectangle)"
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I am researching this.  I have a feeling that in ancient Hebrew, the T and H were mixed like we have it in Arabic.  For example, SALAT, ZAKAT, OSAMAT (my name) all have the T not only silent, but it is pronounced as H.

I'll see what I can come up with.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Brother Osama regards to the site Do It In Hebrew, I tried it vice versa, I typed in Ahmed in English to Hebrew translation. It is correct I do not know why they changed it from Hebrew to english to be "I will."

So go ahead try this method by typing in Ahmed and translating English to Hebrew, it is indeed correct.

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Regards to in Hebrew T and H being mixed up, brother this wouldn't really be surprising after all both languages are semitic languages who have the same root and background. This is what I understood from the different translations like Atmad and Ahmed notice the T and the H, as u said it urself that in acient Hebrew they probably didn't differentiate it.

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But the true significance is that of the dalet and how it resembles the kaf. That is what really changes Athmch to Ahmed.

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Assalamun alaikum dear brother

Isaiah 53 is a part of the Four Servant Songs. Isaiah 42 is the first part of it. According to scholars the servant songs speak of the same servant. Isaiah 42 speaks of a glorified servant while Isaiah 53 speaks of a suffering servant. Can you show how Prophet Muhammad is the Suffering Servant of God?

Thank you

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Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Mohamed,

I am not sure that Isaiah 53 is about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  May be the brothers here have a different opinion with better proofs, but the Old Testament made Prophesies about two Servants and not just one.  And the New Testament further confirms this with the Jews asking John the Baptist on whether he was the awaited Messiah or the awaited Prophet.  You can read all about it at:

www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Jazakullah khair Brother...


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Assalamun alaikum dear brother Osama

What exactly is the duty of the Messiah?

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Asalam ul laykum brother and sister,

Brother Mohamed I will look into Isaiah 53 later, gotta take things one step at a time. Inshallah when I make work in regards to it I will post it here brother. I never looked at Isaiah 53 critically so I don't know much about it.

Regards to job of a Messiah is very simple, the Messiah will come at the time of termoil and he will defeat the anti Christ dajjal. This is what Jews and Muslims believe that job of a Messiah is that sort of like a hero. But Christian's completely blow it out of proportion and make it into something that it isn't.

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I was looking into Isaiah 53, it is very sporadic, at times it sounds like the Christian form of Jesus and other times it sounds like prophet Muhammad pbuh. But here is something interesting I uncovered in Isaiah 52.


Isaiah 52:15 New International Version
"so he will sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand."

Here is where it gets interesting:


New Living Translation
"And he will startle many nations. Kings will stand speechless in his presence. For they will see what they had not been told; they will understand what they had not heard about."

we can see it in more translations:

International Standard Version
"so will he startle many nations. Kings will shut their mouths at him; for what had not been told them they will see, and what they had not heard they will understand."



King James 2000 Bible
"So shall he startle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider."



Now if you know the Context of life of Prophet Muhammad pbuh, he was commanded by God almighty to send letters to the nations to let them know of the message. Some of the Nations shut up and followed, while others who fought were left speechless.

Famous words of King Herculius: 'O Byzantines! If success is your desire and you seek the correct guidance, and wish for your empire to remain, then give a pledge of allegiance to this Prophet (i.e. embrace Islam).'


Abu Sufyaan then added: 'When Heraclius had finished his speech and had read the letter, there was a great cry in the Royal Court. So we were turned out of the court. I told my companions that the question of Ibn Abu Kabshah (i.e., Prophet Muhammad) had become so prominent that even the King of Al-Asfar (Byzantine) was afraid of him. Then I began being certain that he (i.e. the Prophet) would be a victorious conqueror in the near future, until I embraced Islam (i.e. Allah guided me to it)."

A sub-narrator added: "Ibn An-Naathoor was the governor of Jerusalem and Heraclius was the head of the Christians of Shaam; both of them were Christian scholars who were well learned regarding their religion. Ibn An-Naathoor narrated that once, while Heraclius was visiting Jerusalem, he woke up one morning depressed and in a bad mood. Some of his priests asked him why he was in such a mood. Heraclius was a foreteller and an astrologer; he replied: 'At night, when I looked at the stars, I saw that the leader of those who practice circumcision had appeared (i.e., become conquerors). Who are these people who practice circumcision?' The priests replied: 'Nobody except the Jews practice circumcision, so you should not be afraid of them (the Jews). Just issue orders to kill every Jew present in the country.'

While they were discussing this, a messenger sent by the king of Ghassaan to convey the news of Allah's messenger to Heraclius was brought in. Having heard the news, he (i.e. Heraclius) ordered the people to go and see whether the messenger sent by Ghassaan was circumcised. The people, after seeing him, told Heraclius that he was indeed circumcised. Heraclius then asked him about the Arabs in general. The messenger replied: 'The Arabs also practice circumcision.'

After hearing this, Heraclius remarked that sovereignty of the Arabs had appeared. Heraclius then wrote a letter to his friend in Rome who was as knowledgeable as Heraclius. Heraclius then left, heading towards Hims (a town in Syria) and stayed there until he received the reply to a letter that he had sent to one of his friends inquiring about the emergence of the Prophet – his friend agreed with him that this was indeed the emergence of a true Prophet. With that, Heraclius invited all the heads of the Byzantines to assemble in his palace at Hims. When they assembled, he ordered that all the doors of his palace be closed. Then, he emerged and said: 'O Byzantines! If success is your desire and you seek the correct guidance, and wish for your empire to remain, then give a pledge of allegiance to this Prophet (i.e. embrace Islam).'

(On hearing the views of Heraclius) the people ran towards the gates of the palace like wild beasts, but found the doors closed. Heraclius then realised their hatred of Islam, and when he lost hope of their embracing Islam, he ordered that they be brought back to him. (When they returned) he said: 'What I said was only to test the strength of your conviction about your religion, and I have seen it.' The people then prostrated before him and were delighted by him, and so this was the end of Heraclius's story (regarding his faith.)” [Al-Bukhari]

 

http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/163389/



 As we all know that King Heraclius wanted to become Muslim but his greed got in the way. But in his heart he did believe Islam was the true religion since he being a king and a scholar of his religion he knew of passages that guided him and the dream that he received from God almighty about a circumcised messenger.

Ibn al-Qayyim mentions in Zaad al-Ma’aad (3/694) that when Heraclius heard news of the Negus becoming Muslim, he said: “By Allaah, were it not for the sake of holding on to my kingdom, I would have done what he has done.”

None of these kings believed except for the first Negus, the king of Abyssinia (Ethiopia), and the king of ‘Ammaan and his brother.



so we can see how prophet Muhammad fulfills the prophecy of the Isaiah 52:15 and the Isaiah 42.  but Isaiah 53 is rely hard to understand because jesus was not tortured to the point that he was not recognizable, so who could this have been? If you look at who suffered more in life, that clearly is prophet Muhammad pbuh, who was stoned, attacked, pierced by arrow and etc... While prophet jesus IF we accept the crucifiction happened without the regard of actual dying for our sin. even then the suffering was only once and severe. Now regards if Jesus pbuh was held in "low esteem" as God said in Isaiah 53, this cannot be jesus pbuh, because there was absolutely no point where God ever mentioning Jesus being held in "low esteem" by God's perspective.

The Only Prophet that I can think of that this COULD have been talking about is Jonah. Since Jonah did become mingled and was unrecognizable because the stomach acid of the whale melting his skin and he could have been held low esteem by God for leaving his people that he was sent to. But this does not fit Jesus nor Prophet Muhammad pbuh because both are held in the HIGHEST of esteem by God almighty.


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I will look into this further and document it. also note that the topic of Suffering and Glory of the Servants starts at Isaiah 52:13(https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+52&version=NIV), Thus it is possible that I am right about this and Isaiah 53 could be about prophet Muhammad pbuh. However there are things in Isaiah 53 that can seem problematic.


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we have already visualised this before







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Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Dawud.  Great work, akhi.  Tonight insha'Allah, I am going to go through your posts and copy your precious images to this site to permanently preserve them, insha'Allah.  I am going to RE-LINK all of your images to this website, insha'Allah.  This way we don't have to worry about them ever getting erased or lost as long as this website remains alive, insha'Allah.  I am way behind on doing this.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud, I was not aware that u did this already. However, I will do some work on rest of Isaiah 42 and what I just descovered in Isaiah 52:15 in the earlier post. I think we should work towards completely dissecting chapters of Isaiah to show how many times there was a mention of prophet Muhammad pbuh by Isaiah.

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Also bro can u link me to that work of yours, I noticed that u didn't identify the that the earlier word that u changed the kaf to a dalet. U showed the original word with vowels and and kaf and then converted it made the word without vowels and with dalet, but didn't identify the changes that u had to make. The characteristics between the 2 letters, in the work u showed above. Which is why I want to look at ur entire work so I would know next time what we already descovered and what is new that I have found.