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Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« on: August 23, 2017, 03:24:32 am »
Assalamu alaikum.

I wrote another rebuttal to WikiIslam which can be accessed here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzWbzcKrUFb0c0J2dndLVlMwaWs/view

These people left out Hadiths that would disprove their point.

Thanks.

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 05:27:09 am »
Great article you should create a site or some blog bro ,
Regarding the search terms which wikiislam talks about it has also been refuted on the net do some search you will find it I don't have the link with have me else I would have given u

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2017, 02:48:15 am »
Great article you should create a site or some blog bro ,
Regarding the search terms which wikiislam talks about it has also been refuted on the net do some search you will find it I don't have the link with have me else I would have given u

I think you mean these:

. https://ahmadcheemacollections.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/bestiality-related-internet-searches/
. https://www.dawn.com/news/933521/pakistan-top-on-porn-search-google-denies

I really want to create a site and put these, but it's quite hard and takes a lot of time. I wanted to send these to IslamWiki, but they said they don't accept direct rebuttals (ie, rebuttals to WikiIslam). I wish bro Osama puts this on this site, not being bold, but for anyone to access it if my Google account has a problem.

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2017, 10:58:11 am »
Yeah bro there it is ... That's what I was I talking about

I know managing a site is tough

Some time ago I decided to create a site which has organised stuff
But for that I need a partner I can not do it alone

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2017, 05:26:22 pm »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

On this blog, you can create posts not only in the General Board section, but also in the appropriate section and sub-section.  Your work will be picked up by search engines, insha'Allah.  You can easily verify that by googling your topic on google and you'll see the link to your post there.

As to the two links that were given above, I will further expand on the bestiality article to include the clowns of the West (all Christian countries) having the highest acts of bestiality:



Bestiality in the West Rising and Shining:

10 nationalities that fornicate with bestiality:

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-shocking/10-nationalities-who-fornicate-with-animals/

They’re also called “bestiality brothels” and “erotic zoos”:

1. Germany.

"A 2013 report from the Daily Mail News warns that bestiality brothels are spreading through Germany. People are calling it a “lifestyle choice” when wanting to commit to having relations with animals. The bestiality brothels are referred to as “erotic zoos.”....."

2. Colombia.

"Known for its beautiful South American women, the northern coast of Colombia has been cited as an epicenter for bestiality. A documentary entitled Asses of the Caribbean chronicled the activities in which pubescent boys were having sex with donkeys. This practice was generally accepted....."

3. South Africa.

"....Numerous cases are coming before the South African courts chronicling illegal sexual acts between humans and animals. It is estimated that thousands of cases go unreported in the country each and every year."

4. United States.

"Listen, when laws in the 2000s are finally going on record outlawing the act of a human having sex with an animal, you have to raise more than an eyebrow. In the well-developed United States, sexual acts between animals and humans is far too common place. One example of such an act took place in the state of Washington, as reported by the Seattle Times. There, a 45-year-old man died after receiving anal sex from a stallion....."

5. Sweden.

"In 2013, Sweden finally banned its citizens from having sex with animals. The Swedes often like to refer to themselves as a “perfect society.”....."

6. Denmark.

"When you are referred to as a “hot spot” for the animal sex tourism industry (sadly, yes, there is such a thing) you know you got problems. In Denmark, a 2011 report cited by the Danish Justice prior Ministry found that 17% of vets suspected an animal they had treated had been involved in sexual relations with a human...."

7. Brazil.

"Brazil is well known for beautiful, sensual women who have enticing tanned skin and robust hour glass figures. Brazil is also a hotbed for penile cancer in men caused by having sex with animals...."

8. Hungary.

"Hungary: home of legal bestiality. On top of keeping bestiality legal, Hungary is one of the three largest producers of bestiality x-rated films in the world. Animal “entertainment is a big problem in Hungary and is filling the Internet as we speak...."

Wouldn't they have been better off remaining Muslims when the Muslims opened their lands?


9. Finland.

"...Finland actually has on record with its law that it’s all right to have sex with animals...."

10. Mexico.

"Since it’s Mexico’s turn, let’s talk about the famous donkey;s shows. There’s a Mexican border town called “Boys’ Town” in which Texas boys head south to watch a Mexican senorita have sex with her donkey. Yup, it’s an age-old drunk festival of fun for onlookers who can’t believe their eyes. But Mexican donkey shows have been going on for quite a while now. Bestiality in Mexico is legal and doesn’t appear to be going out of style anytime soon."

I will insha'Allah include brother MusimForEver's work.




Getting Sodomized:

So not only they get sodomized as children in their churches by their priests, but they also get sodomized by their animals as adults.  How romantic.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 07:20:14 pm »
islamWiki already has a quite detailed article on the topic: Legal status of bestiality in Islam (in-fact the only counter-argument article).
Also, check out the section Bestiality in Muslim Countries for more information related to the above post.

Additionally, islamWiki does not have an issue with rebuttals, its just that objectively written counter-arguments without targeting any individual or group are recommended as it keeps the discussion scholarly and discourages the argument degrading to petty personal disputes.

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 05:26:27 am »
Jazakallah Osama.

I just wanted to add, that other than bestiality happening in non-Muslim countries, there are zoophiles who actually DEFEND this horrible act. We should also refute their arguments to show the Islamophobes that there is no place for such stupidity in Islam.

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 07:10:27 am »
I think the Family Guy, an American popular TV show, is a bestiality too. For instance, Brian, who is a white dog, like to have sex with hot women.
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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 10:10:32 am »
So Osama, have you done so already? Because if you didn't, then I have an addition to this article: http://www.answering-christianity.com/sex_with_animals_forbidden.htm

I found this Hadith in ibn Majah:

It was narrated from Ibn`Abbas that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Whoever has intercourse with a Mahram relative, kill him; and whoever has intercourse with an animal, kill him, and kill the animal.”
English reference    : Vol. 3, Book 20, Hadith 2564
Arabic reference    : Book 20, Hadith 2661
Grade   : Sahih (Darussalam)

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 02:47:16 pm »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

I have updated the article, and added your Hadith above to your article at:

www.answering-christianity.com/sex_with_animals_forbidden.htm

Jazaka Allah Khayr for your work.  I apologize for forgetting about adding your work. 

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2017, 06:19:42 am »
<infidels' link removed>
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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2017, 10:00:09 am »
No non-Muslim links allowed here.  Sistani is a priest of satan:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links

Are you a shia?  If you are, then you're not welcomed here.

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2017, 10:04:06 am »
no. I am sunni. but the link seemed helpful to me  :-\

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Re: Rebuttal to WikiIslam's article "Islam and Bestiality".
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2017, 11:35:25 am »
Assuming the question was regarding the image of an fatwa by Sistani allowing bestiality, see Legal status of bestiality in Islam#The Sistani Fatwa