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26 Qurans
« on: December 30, 2017, 04:02:18 PM »
Lately this thing has been bothering me I watched a guy pull out 26 versions of the Quran. Many people make this claim against Islam if the Quran was preserved why are there 26 versions you can purchase.
Any rebuttals ?

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 05:04:34 PM »
?? Where are these 26 Qurans? whats the video? if its DontConvert2Islam
Watch Yahya Snow's refutation on him,if its Jay smith,he doesn't even show the text.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 09:28:31 PM »
?? Where are these 26 Qurans? whats the video? if its DontConvert2Islam
Watch Yahya Snow's refutation on him,if its Jay smith,he doesn't even show the text.
It's not just one there are videos of people who physical bought 26 different versions like you can actually buy them online and they habe diffrent surah and meaning's added.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2017, 09:30:24 PM »
?? Where are these 26 Qurans? whats the video? if its DontConvert2Islam
Watch Yahya Snow's refutation on him,if its Jay smith,he doesn't even show the text.
It's not just one there are videos of people who physical bought 26 different versions like you can actually buy them online and they habe diffrent surah and meaning's added.
There are 26 copies please search it they are all different but are all the Quran apparently.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 09:54:22 PM »
I think Jay Smith is the source of this claim...there are some videos which discuss this...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rGThuuWRBA8

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQlx248nEnM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IhbhZMZ1mek

Maybe Osama can give you a quick answer to this...he's good when dealing with these kind of subjects as far as i know...

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 12:54:35 AM »
the quran is preserved thru memorization and recitations in prayers. there are different ways of reciting quran in relations to different dialects.
 The different ways of recitations were recorded in hadiths.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2017, 05:45:20 AM »
Different surah  :o Is this a Joke ?

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2017, 06:05:29 AM »
Different surah  :o Is this a Joke ?
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I really don't know if you search it there are videos of people with 26 varients of the Quran with differences in the surah

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 07:19:46 AM »
Did you watch the videos i've shown? Maybe you should watch them first and then if you're still being bothered with some points then you can post it here so that everyone can help you...

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2017, 10:56:21 AM »
Well the Christian just sums up about differences in recitations only and attempt to relate the differences to the textual variants found in their Greek books.
The Christian world has accepted that they are many versions of Bible due to copying errors by scribes when preserving the Greek testament.
Yet putting textual variants issues aside, still one certainly could not claim that their Greek testaments were preserved since beginning as the 26 or 27 greek authored pages/books were only selected as canon around 200-300 years after the departure of Paul. With the rest of other Greek books considered non-canon.

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What did Allah said in (Sura 2:10) HAFS "yakdhibuuna" OR WARSH - "yukadhibuuna"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:48) RUH "yugbal" OR WARSH - "tugbal"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:125) HAFS "ettakhizu" OR WARSH - "ettakhazu"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:132) HAFS "wawassaa" OR WARSH - "wa'awsaa"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:140) HAFS "taguluna" OR WARSH - "yaguluna"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:184) HAFS "ta'aamu miskiinin" OR WARSH - "ta'aami Masakina"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:214) HAFS "hatta yaguula" OR WARSH - "hatta yaguulu"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:219) HAFS "kabeer" OR al Duri & Abu Harith - "katheer"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:271) HAFS "Yukkafeer" OR al-Susi & al-Duri - "nukkaffeer"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 21:4) HAFS "qaala" OR WARSH - "qul"?

It is you muslims claim that there is only 1 quran! You "claim" quran is "never" changed. NOW That claim of all muslims is now destroyed! This corruption of the quran started AFTER UTHMAN. That means quran is corrupted by muslims and islam is false. There are at least 26 different qurans now in 2017..

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2017, 11:30:12 AM »
Well the Christian just sums up about differences in recitations only and attempt to relate the differences to the textual variants found in their Greek books.
The Christian world has accepted that they are many versions of Bible due to copying errors by scribes when preserving the Greek testament.
Yet putting textual variants issues aside, still one certainly could not claim that their Greek testaments were preserved since beginning as the 26 or 27 greek authored pages/books were only selected as canon around 200-300 years after the departure of Paul. With the rest of other Greek books considered non-canon.

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What did Allah said in (Sura 2:10) HAFS "yakdhibuuna" OR WARSH - "yukadhibuuna"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:48) RUH "yugbal" OR WARSH - "tugbal"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:125) HAFS "ettakhizu" OR WARSH - "ettakhazu"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:132) HAFS "wawassaa" OR WARSH - "wa'awsaa"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:140) HAFS "taguluna" OR WARSH - "yaguluna"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:184) HAFS "ta'aamu miskiinin" OR WARSH - "ta'aami Masakina"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:214) HAFS "hatta yaguula" OR WARSH - "hatta yaguulu"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:219) HAFS "kabeer" OR al Duri & Abu Harith - "katheer"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 2:271) HAFS "Yukkafeer" OR al-Susi & al-Duri - "nukkaffeer"?
What did Allah said in (Sura 21:4) HAFS "qaala" OR WARSH - "qul"?

It is you muslims claim that there is only 1 quran! You "claim" quran is "never" changed. NOW That claim of all muslims is now destroyed! This corruption of the quran started AFTER UTHMAN. That means quran is corrupted by muslims and islam is false. There are at least 26 different qurans now in 2017..
This is what I was talking about can anyone refute this.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2017, 12:45:36 PM »
http://islamic-life-forum.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-7-ahruf-10-qiraat-of-quran.html
So are theses all the 26 but if Usman burnt them how can people still purchase them today with ease.
Because some have added surah to them and are quite different from each other.
I thought the Quran was perfectly preserved as one and you can't bit 26 other variants how do we know which one could be the right one I am still confused ?

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2017, 12:49:37 PM »
1)Can somebody please explain why the perfectly compilied quran is purchasble in 26 different variants some with extra surah and different meaning?
2 ) If usman burnt all the copies and that was it why do we still have 26 varients?

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2017, 03:24:35 PM »

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2017, 04:00:33 PM »
Did you ever have a look at the link
I am sure you didn't.

Have a look here too: http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/introduction_to_quranic_variants
Oooooooooh makes kinda sense now thanks.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2017, 05:36:50 PM »
The Extra surah "Quran" are actually shi'a compilations of the Quran,they made up that Surah,and you can see by its rhyming,etc,and prose,it doesn't match with the Quran at all and are very messy in text.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2017, 08:44:18 PM »
Even Shias did not accept the two surahs which spell out the name Ali in it.
Doubt Iraq/Iran Sunni and Iraqi/Iran Shias would go to different shops to purchase different Quran for additional surahs.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/forgery.html

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2017, 10:22:10 PM »
Did you ever have a look at the link
I am sure you didn't.

Have a look here too: http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/introduction_to_quranic_variants
So all 26 are just different abrogated versions.

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2018, 12:53:39 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

There is only one Noble Quran ever sent and that is the one that we currently have today that gets printed all over the world.  Abrogations do not exist in the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/abrogation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#prophecies
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#numerical_miracles
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


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Osama Abdallah

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2018, 07:10:17 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

There is only one Noble Quran ever sent and that is the one that we currently have today that gets printed all over the world.  Abrogations do not exist in the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/abrogation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#prophecies
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#numerical_miracles
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


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Osama Abdallah
Then why are 26 version purchasable with different surah?

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2018, 07:38:17 AM »
there are no 26 different qurans purchaseable.
there are different recitations of quran however which has been explained in the links given.

if you look at the Christians claims of 26 qurans, they are just saying the words have same root word but pronounce differently or having synonyms of word thus making a different meaning or interpretation.

that does not make it different quran at all as even during the prophet's time it had been known they are different ways of reciting the quran.


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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2018, 05:38:19 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

There is only one Noble Quran ever sent and that is the one that we currently have today that gets printed all over the world.  Abrogations do not exist in the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/abrogation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#prophecies
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#numerical_miracles
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Then why are 26 version purchasable with different surah?


The Warsh and Doori and other writings, which only contain less than 50 of misspelled words in the Gloriious Quran that is made up of 6236 Noble Verses and 10s of thousands of Noble Words, those other versions (Warsh, Doori and others) are the ones that contain errors.  The only True Quran is the Hafs one with the Qureshi Harf (Meccan where the Quran originally came from), and this is the one that gets printed all over the world today, and is the Quran that you see in every language translation on the right half of every page (ex: English-Arabic translations).

Also, the Hafs Quran is the Quran that Muslims found 1000s of Numerical Miracles and Patterns in Its Words.  And this Holy Quran is the dominant one on earth.  All other Qurans are not popular and are limited in geography.  And even in their territories, the official Quran is the Hafs One with the Qureshi Harf.  Also, it's been proven that the Hafs Quran is traced all the way back to Ali Bin Abi Talib, who was the Prophet's most trusted companion, who was also his cousin.  The other versions are not.

For more details, please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah


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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2018, 04:51:21 AM »
Just a question, Osama. I live in a country whose people read in Qalun an Nafi. Does that mean they should switch to Hafs?

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2018, 08:14:22 AM »
It is best to use Glorious Quran that gets printed in Saudi Arabia brother.  All of the Middle Eastern countries including Iran use the same Glorious Quran that gets printed in Saudi Arabia.  And all of the Muslim countries do the same.  So why should anyone deviate from this?  I would stick to the original source as much as possible, akhi.  The following files contain the Medina Mushaf that gets printed in Medina and all over the world:

http://www.quransearch.com/Glorious_Quran_in_Arabic.pdf
http://www.quransearch.com/noble_quran_png_images_file_paths.htm
http://www.quransearch.com/noble_quran_png_files.zip
http://www.quransearch.com/

Why should any Muslim on this earth use a Quran that is different from the one that gets printed in Medina?  What is wrong with the one that gets printed there?

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: 26 Qurans
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2018, 07:04:16 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Brother Amin proved that the Numerical Miracle only works on the Hafs Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

He gave detailed analysis and proofs, which I copied to the article.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah