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Re: Video needs refuting
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2018, 10:41:37 AM »
Zakir,
Use this and you will find most of your points already answered.
http://bemuslims.weebly.com/muslims-search-engine.html

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2018, 10:42:25 PM »
Brother Albarra, seems you've watched the video, can you summarise about what he says about 10, 6 and 1 so that everyone can give a hand?
I will tell you points 10 and 6 but 1 was long I might do that later
10) Was Muhammad tortured a man for treasure there is a hadith quoting this I'm sure it's authentic to When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.”  So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead.  Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 764) - This story is also confirmed by Ibn Kathir, vol 3 p. 268.

Also these quranic verses The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
Qur'an 5:33
When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Qur'an 8:12

6) Point 6 was quoted from a Bukhari hadith that a man got in possession of the prophets hair and bewitched him but biblical prophets were protected from black magic also David claimed a man tried to do it on him and he died a cope of months later the man of course

Zakir, I think you watched a wrong video.

First of all, there are two videos:

"Top 10 reasons Muhammad is not a prophet"

and

"10 more reasons Muhammad is not a prophet"

I watched the first one, but you watched the second video.

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Re: Video needs refuting
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2018, 10:48:39 PM »
Zakir, I suggest you to watch iJihad episodes on YouTube.

These episodes will answer many of your questions, including terrorism and ISIS.


 Watch all 5 episodes if you have a free time.



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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2018, 01:33:45 PM »
Zakir, I suggest you to watch iJihad episodes on YouTube.

These episodes will answer many of your questions, including terrorism and ISIS.


 Watch all 5 episodes if you have a free time.
The last point wa's verses from the quran saying jesus followers will be victorious to his resurrection so why did Muhammad need to come

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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 06:07:19 PM »
Zakir, you don't fully understand what I said about two videos.

Here are the links:

I watched this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8sZ1JyP1A&t=2s


However, you watched this video instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4p7HuuhF8k&t=132s

Watch the first video then we will move on to second video.

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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2018, 01:30:11 PM »
Zakir, you don't fully understand what I said about two videos.

Here are the links:

I watched this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8sZ1JyP1A&t=2s


However, you watched this video instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4p7HuuhF8k&t=132s

Watch the first video then we will move on to second video.
I understand now so fro the first video points 10,6 and 1 werent answered for the video your talking about can you tell us the three points so we can discuss it I haven't watch the video that you watched I end up getting lost in the islamaphobic maerial.
So what points did he make for 10 6 1.

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2018, 05:35:35 PM »
Zakir, you don't fully understand what I said about two videos.

Here are the links:

I watched this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8sZ1JyP1A&t=2s


However, you watched this video instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4p7HuuhF8k&t=132s

Watch the first video then we will move on to second video.
I understand now so fro the first video points 10,6 and 1 werent answered for the video your talking about can you tell us the three points so we can discuss it I haven't watch the video that you watched I end up getting lost in the islamaphobic maerial.
So what points did he make for 10 6 1.

That's nonsense. I watched dozens of anti-Muslim videos and I did not lose my faith.

Anti-Muslims are dishonest and ludicrous.


Check my links under the topic about David Wood.

I don't remember what is 10, 6, and 1. You don't click the links that I provided you.


 


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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2018, 10:05:28 AM »
Ok as points 10 6 and 1 were not answred I will post later

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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2018, 10:23:48 AM »
@Zakir i'm so sorry man, i completely forgot about this post...i'm just gonna put links...

Point 10

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/rebuttal_to_silas_s_article__muhammad_and_the_death_of_kinana_

Point 6

https://www.bismikaallahuma.org/muhammad/the-muslim-scholars-regarding-the-bewitchment-of-the-prophet-muhammad/

And Jesus was TEMPTED for 40 days by the way, 40 days!

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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2018, 10:24:35 AM »
@Zakir what was point 1 by the way?

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2018, 03:52:26 PM »
It was about a verse in the quran I checked it I forgot the number now but anyway it said something on these lines and your lord made the followers of jesus victorious and they shall remain victorious until jesus return check the video for the exact verse.
He made 2 points.
1) If the followers of jesus remain victorious until his return that mean's that the bible can't be corrupted and you can't accuse people of changing and corrupting Christianity. That means the quran admitted that the Christians never corrupTed anything and that the followers of jesus are victorious.
2) Also if the followers of jesus will stay victorious that means Muhammad must have been a false prophet because there was no need for another prophet if the Christians who followed jesus were doing good
That was basically point 1

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2018, 04:55:36 PM »
Point 1. The True followers of Christ followed One God instead of a trinity,as seen by the earliest variation of Christianity like the Ebionites.
Point 2. The Followers of Jesus have been commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad SAW too as he predicted,another Prophet in the arabs in the Bible.

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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2018, 06:33:41 AM »
Ma'ariful Qur'an (Mufti Shafi Usmani) Vol - 8
Surah As-Saff - 61

Three Groups of Christians

(So, a group from the children of israel believed, and another group disbelieved. Then We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became victorious...61:14)

Baghawi interprets this verse in the light of a narration of Sayyidna 'Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas Radhi-Allahu Anh:

Allah be pleased with him that when Prophet 'Isa (A.S) was raised to the heaven, his followers disagreed and became three groups. A group claimed that He was Himself God who went back to the heaven. The second group claimed that He Himself was not God, but God's son. God lifted him up and salvaged him from the enemies and granted him superiority. The third group proclaimed the truth and said that he was neither god nor the son of god, but he was Allah's servant and His Messenger. Allah took him away to the heaven to protect him from the enemies, and to raise his status. These people were the true believers. Different sectors of the general public attached themselves to each one of these groups. The groups clashed with one another. The two of the non-believing groups overpowered the third group, which was a group of true believers.
Eventually, Allah raised the Final Messenger of Allah Sallallahu 'Alayhi Wasallam: Peace be upon him who supported the group of the true believers. This group thus dominated the others because of their correct belief and its solid proofs confirmed by the Qur'an. [Mazhari].

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Re: Video needs refuting
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2018, 02:25:45 PM »
Hello Bro Osama somebody, please refute the points that have not yet been refuted
What are their points ? Present them with respect.
I am very sorry I spent half an hour typing the points up and right at the end it crashed and I lost it all can you please just watch the video I promise you I had wrote it all up and it just crashed I really can not write it all up again somebody watch this and refute it please.


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