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Offline trueneverdefeat

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why the disciples failed on being eye witnessed on the main mission of jesus? and if they were inspired by God isn't it unjust of God to not give them courage in the critical point which means they betray jesus the moment need them more , and this act is against the teaching of jesus? i think crucification is one of the center belief of christian.

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Jesus did not come to die

 The Jews of Palestine expected the arrival of a Prophet who’d overthrow the Roman government and destroy the occupation, not to be crucified by them! Jesus made it clear that the purpose of his mission was to preach the Law and the Gospel (only) to the Children of Israel:

Jesus replied, "Let us go somewhere else—to the nearby villages—so I can preach there also. That is why I have come." (Mark 1:38)

But he said, "I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent." (Luke 4:43)

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. (Matthew 18:11, KJV only)

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. (Luke 19:10)

But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:13)
 
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”  (Matthew 5:17-18)

The four Gospels contradict each other; the story of the crucifixion is told differently in each Gospel. Logically, all four Gospels cannot be simultaneously true. Hence, the crucifixion is not historical, or the sources would be rather consistent if they were reliable. The attempt to “harmonize” the accounts is impossible because the contradictions are so vast.

“Actually, the fact that we have four gospels lies at the very heart of our problem. Because we read particular parables or sayings or stories in several different versions, we can't miss the disagreements between them"("Who is Jesus" by John Dominic Crossan, p. 3-4)

“The Christians have dozens of different versions, rather than one universally agreed view, regarding the crucifixion of the Messiah. This in itself is an eloquent testimony that the Christians were doubtful about the actual event. Some of them held the view that the one who was crucified was someone other than Jesus and that Jesus himself in fact remained standing somewhere nearby, laughing at their folly… Had the truth been fully known and well-established so many divergent views could not have gained currency”. (Towards Understanding the Quran, Vol 2, Sayyid Abul Ala Mawdudi, p. 108)

Jesus was never crucified, God saved him from death.

 http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac24.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/the_crucifixion_hoax_1.htm (Brother Osama: Please add a link to part 6 http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/the_crucifixion_hoax_6.htm in the page of part 1)

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Yes I know that very well and essentially my question was not to Muslims it's for those who claims Jesus had crucified thanks anyway bro