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Noahs flood
« on: March 15, 2018, 03:34:06 pm »
Selamu aleykum guys so one dude on mercifulservant comment section said that noahs flood is impossible due to science, which made me kinda chuckle isnt it supposed to be a miracle? Like what am i supposed to tell him lmao hes telling me the parts of noahs arck which were flound were not real and bla bla

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 04:02:42 pm »
Ok so i saw This on the wikipedia page
 Mesopotamian   
The Noah story of the Pentateuch is almost identical to a flood story contained in the Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh, composed about 2000 BC. The few variations including the number of days of the deluge, the order of the birds, and the name of the mountain on which the ark rests. The flood story in Genesis 6–8 matches the Gilgamesh flood myth so closely that "few doubt that [it] derives from a Mesopotamian account."[29] What is particularly noticeable is the way the Genesis flood story follows the Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the story permits other alternatives.[30]

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 04:10:10 pm »
Miracles don't apply to science. 

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 04:13:16 pm »
Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Islamically, the flood was a local event.  Noah's story is also the cornerstone of the Glorious Quran's most important Numerical Miracle, which is the number 19 Miracle:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2575.msg12187.html#msg12187
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2575.msg12214.html#msg12214



Scientifically, it is possible for all of earth to be flooded with violent water.  If a massively big asteroid were to strike deep into the Indian, Atlantic or Pacific ocean, it would bring catastrophic waves that would devastate everything on land.  But the great flood of this kind never happened.  We are all descendent of Adam, peace be upon him, not Noah, peace be upon him.  Noah is not the second Adam to all of mankind.

Even the Bible doesn't speak about Noah's story as covering the entire earth.  Entire "land" means local one, since Noah's ship carried a pair of every animal (livestock of all kinds) that they were dependent upon, perhaps every individual from the survivors brought their own pairs.  But it certainly does not mean a pair of every single exising animal on earth, for there are literally billions of species out there, and most of them don't even live in the Middle East.

The links above have a lot more on this.

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Osama Abdallah

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 04:42:13 pm »
Thanks to both of you what concerns me now is the thing that its supposed to be plagirazied(?idk how you spell it ) from  mesoptemians, which i posted, it really concerns me alot rn

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 04:46:47 pm »
That argument is so stupid even christians refuted it
http://creation.mobi/noahs-flood-and-the-gilgamesh-epic

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 04:59:01 pm »
Thanks akhi gonna read it through

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 05:23:07 pm »
That argument is so stupid even christians refuted it
http://creation.mobi/noahs-flood-and-the-gilgamesh-epic

Ive read it through and it didnt really refute it? :/

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2018, 04:06:53 am »
Read my links above.  Prophet Noah, peace be upon him, is the Cornerstone of the Glorious Quran's most important Numerical Miracle, which is the number 19 Miracle.

All of your points regarding the Great Flood are addressed from the Glorious Quran, where I proved that it was a local flood.

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2018, 08:23:45 pm »
Akhi numberial miracles dont really do it for me tbh i dont understand how that proves divinity?

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2018, 08:24:46 pm »
Dont get me wrong please i dont want to sound harsh, im really sorry if i did but i really dont understand how it shows divinity when a human can do that also?

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2018, 10:11:22 pm »
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Dont get me wrong please i dont want to sound harsh, im really sorry if i did but i really dont understand how it shows divinity when a human can do that also?

Well, if you bothered to actually read what I suggested to you, then you would've seen that the Numerical Miracles aren't just simple ones, like Word X is mentioned equal times as it's similar or counter Word Y.  Although we do have ample examples of this kind in the Glorious Quran, but the Divine Miracle is far greater and deeper than this.  And Prophet Noah is the cornerstone of it.



I openly challenge you:

"...when a human can do that also?"

Bring me one book on the face of this earth that has these types of Miracles in it.  Empty talk is cheap and is worthless.  Try to remove all bias and nonsense that the doomed-to-Hell infidels, and the ignorants from the Muslims, have fed you, and read for yourself, and see how Glorious and Miraculous the Holy Quran truly is.  Instead of giving empty statements of this kind, try to see why Allah Almighty spoke about and emphasized the importance of you seeing the Numerical and Scientific Miracles in His Holy Book.



Did you read the Divine Promises??

Did not the Almighty give Divine Promises that He will reveal the Scientific and Numerical Miracles in His Holy Book, the Quran?  The following should help you:

www.answering-christianity.com/sci_prophecy.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


So if Allah Almighty Himself says that He will reveal them, then who are you to reject them?  This is for every reader.

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Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2018, 01:01:01 am »
For us to press forward & advance:

Notice also the following Noble Verses about the number 19 Numerical Miracle:

[074:035] This is but one of the MIGHTY ONES (Miracles)
[074:036] A warning to mankind,-
[074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-



It is not only one of the Greatest Miracles, but it is also for those who want to press forward and advance.  This sad Ummah of ours today should take a hard look at these Noble Verses!  And yes, Prophet Nuh (Noah), peace be upon him, is the cornerstone of this Great Miracle, the number 19 Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

Please read the links above and learn.  I say this very humbly.

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Osama Abdallah

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Re: Noahs flood
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 12:29:34 am »
Notice also this Noble Verse, which is also mentioned above:

[074:036] A warning to mankind,-


If the number 19 Miracle is trivial or irrelevant, or simply doesn't exist, then Allah Almighty would not have Said  it is a warning to mankind.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah