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Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« on: October 30, 2019, 09:11:56 AM »
Brother Osama Salam, i have a question...i've been reading the story of the gentile woman of Matthew 15:21-28 this morning and i've been wondering does Jesus sins somewhere along the incident?

So the woman comes asking for help to Jesus, the latter refuses her by saying that he came only for the children of Israel and even went as far as hinting out that helping her would be like snatching the rights of the Israelites (verse 24) then ofc after further begging he agrees to help her.

I have some questions that pops up, the fact that Jesus helped her may suggest that he also came to help believing gentiles...if that's the case then does that entail that Jesus used a lie to test the woman?

Another possibility is that Jesus made an exception, then does that mean his human nature sinned by breaching his contract (verse 24)?





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Re: Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2019, 09:19:19 AM »
Another thing which bothers me is that nowhere it is mentioned that Jesus was allowed by the Father to make an exception considering that he's supposed to be always in submission to His will (Matthew 26:39, Matthew 26:42, Mark 14:36, John 6:38)

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Re: Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2019, 09:23:49 AM »
and he makes it clear along the conversation with the gentile lady that his Father's will is for him to help the children of israel only...so again, did he use a lie to test her or he breached his contract by making an exception where nowhere it's suggested that he was allowed to by the Father...in both cases imo it seems to be a sin... if i haven't missed anything ofc

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Re: Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 09:59:23 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Shaad,

Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother.  Great points akhi.  In the worst case (if Jesus did not lie and sin), it shows that his metaphoric and hyperbolic language is nonsensical at best on many occasions.  Trinity is built on hyperbole nonsense.  This is one example that we can't use Jesus' hyperboles to prove the false lie, trinity:

www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm  (ample examples and verses)

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 10:00:04 AM »
I am going to add your points above to the article, insha'Allah, dear brother Shaad.

Jazaka Allah Khayr.

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Re: Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2019, 10:05:08 PM »
Sorry was offline...thank you brother Osama

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Re: Exorcism of the Syrophoenician
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2019, 05:02:20 AM »
No issues at all, dear brother Shaad :).  Jazaka Allah Khayr.  You are welcome.