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Offline Tanveer

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Neanderthals?
« on: October 22, 2012, 03:57:59 PM »
What's islam's stance on stuff like neanderthals and homo erectus? Apparently we have neanderthal DNA in us?

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 10:48:45 AM »
: / No answer? Bleh oh well.

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 09:30:30 PM »
LOL, Islam dear brother began from Adam, peace be upon him, and ended with Muhammad, peace be upon him.  They people, who date back 100s of millions of years ago, were only one human-era from the many eras that we've had for the past 3.8 billion years of our existence on earth.

Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/adam_90_feet_tall.htm.  I think this article might help you a bit.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 09:03:49 AM »
ok thank you ill have a look

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 01:59:49 AM »
Duh the Qur'an says we have a common ancestor

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 09:10:57 AM »
I know this mightgt not help but im sure it does, though i dont no where.

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 09:39:57 AM »
Duh the Qur'an says we have a common ancestor
Could you give me the verse(s) please?

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 09:47:41 AM »
 4.1 . O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them has spread a multitude of men and women.

And common genetic information:

25:54 . And it is He who has created from water a human being and made him [a relative by] lineage and marriage. And ever is your Lord competent [concerning creation].

Another translation is "gave relations by blood and marriage" this of course refers to common genetic information, which goes back to the first human, Adam.

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 01:15:45 PM »
What's islam's stance on stuff like neanderthals and homo erectus? Apparently we have neanderthal DNA in us?

Even Chimpanzees Gorillas etc has more than 90% identical DNA with humans ..... but we know as muslims  “Allah does what He pleases.” Allah can create His creatures in any manner that He chooses.

In Islam ,human beings living on the Earth today, are all descendants of a male and a female

Allah also says: “O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you with Allah is the one who is the most God-fearing.” [Sûrah al-Hujûrât:13]

We also see that Allah created the first male "Adam" and female ,directly from "dust ,water,mud....""  without the agency of parents ,or any kind of ancestors.

The direct creation of Adam (peace be upon him) can neither be confirmed nor denied by science in any way. It is a matter of the Unseen and something that science does not have the power to confirm or deny. As a matter of the Unseen, we believe it because Allah informs us about it.

when it comes to all the living things ,other than humans ,the Qur’ân  neither confirm nor deny the theory of biological evolution or the process referred to as natural selection. The question of evolution remains purely a matter of scientific enquiry. The theory of evolution must stand or fall on its own scientific merits – and that means the physical evidence that either confirms the theory or conflicts with it.

Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhâb al-Turayrî wrote:

The role of science is only to observe and describe the patterns that Allah places in His creation. If scientific observation shows a pattern in the evolution of species over time that can be described as natural selection, this is not in itself unbelief. It is only unbelief for a person to think that this evolution took place on its own, and not as a creation of Allah. A Muslim who accepts evolution or natural selection as a valid scientific theory must know that the theory is merely an explanation of one of the many observed patterns in Allah’s creation.

As for the fossil remains of bipedal apes and the tools and artifacts associated with those remains, their existence poses no problem for Islamic teachings. There is nothing in the Qur’ân and Sunnah that either affirms or denies that upright, brainy, tool using apes ever existed or evolved from other apelike ancestors. Such animals may very well have existed on Earth before Adam’s arrival upon it. All we can draw from the Qur’ân and Sunnah is that even if those animals once existed, they were not the forefathers of Adam (peace be upon him).

And Allah knows best.

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 02:00:53 PM »
Thank you very much for the highly informative post Egyptian. :)


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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 01:11:47 PM »

Thank you for the links Bro Black Muslim  ...... 

but in order to be objective ,let's hear the voice of the evolutionists countering the objections to evolution...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution
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I personally convinced to evolution as a creation of Allah,and not taken place on its own.

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 02:21:12 PM »
Australopithecus was an ape. Homo erectus and Neanderthals are humans. There is no transitional fossil, contrary to popular belief.

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 11:55:00 PM »
We're all apes. Great apes in fact. 8)

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Re: Neanderthals?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2013, 05:06:23 AM »
Yes. But now there is evidence that Neanderthals practiced burial rites and cared for their sick, not so primitive now eh...

Burial rites are compulsory in all Abrahamic religions.