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OSAMA ABDULLAH - Confirm this urgently!
« on: December 28, 2012, 07:29:09 pm »
I read in a topic you were refuting:

Answering-Islam writes:
 
5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu religion) that the birth of kalki avatar would take place in an honorable clan. This perfectly fits the quraysh where the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) belonged to. (very honorable clan for more details u can read the history of prophet(s.a.w) to see the qualities that they possessed which made them one of the strongest clans).

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No, the Vishnu Purana clearly says "He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin of Sambhala village". Muhammad was not born in Sambhala village, he was born in Arabia, and no one has ever claimed that Muhammad came from a Brahmin family. Additionally, is there any objective reason to believe the Quaraysh to be more honorable than other clans?

According to another website, 'Brahma' is supposed to Ibrahim A.S, I can confirm this. We all know Muhammad SAW was from the Quraysh Clan and ALSO he is from Ismail A.S, who is the son of Ibrahim A.S obviously, so technically he is from the Brahmin family if the Brahmin family are the family of Brahma?

Confirm this please? On the day first day back to college I will try to convert my friend from hinduism to Islam, and I am honestly really impressed with the bit where it says he will be born on a monday on the 12th, it's amazing.!

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Re: OSAMA ABDULLAH - Confirm this urgently!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 07:15:44 am »
This may or may not help, but, brahman and Brahma are different in the hindu language

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2014, 10:15:50 am »
I read in a topic you were refuting:

Answering-Islam writes:
 
5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu religion) that the birth of kalki avatar would take place in an honorable clan. This perfectly fits the quraysh where the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) belonged to. (very honorable clan for more details u can read the history of prophet(s.a.w) to see the qualities that they possessed which made them one of the strongest clans).

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No, the Vishnu Purana clearly says "He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin of Sambhala village". Muhammad was not born in Sambhala village, he was born in Arabia, and no one has ever claimed that Muhammad came from a Brahmin family. Additionally, is there any objective reason to believe the Quaraysh to be more honorable than other clans?

According to another website, 'Brahma' is supposed to Ibrahim A.S, I can confirm this. We all know Muhammad SAW was from the Quraysh Clan and ALSO he is from Ismail A.S, who is the son of Ibrahim A.S obviously, so technically he is from the Brahmin family if the Brahmin family are the family of Brahma?

Confirm this please? On the day first day back to college I will try to convert my friend from hinduism to Islam, and I am honestly really impressed with the bit where it says he will be born on a monday on the 12th, it's amazing.!

Adnaan Shaikh
As-Salam Walekum  You made a Very good thing to mark out. May be this is true  because there are many mis-conceptions and mis-interpretation but in every day use the word Brahma used for the God of creation may be this is a mis-understanding and the word Brahmin used for the supreme race of hindu high priests but it could be a mis-understanding by hindus and the priest clan had adopted that name. moreover after the first translation of Vedas into english it has been proved that 1/4 Vedas are copied from babylonian  //(also known as mesopotamia where Abraham was born// tablets. and the other part could be a addition by local people. well i shall do some research to more clarify this. Thanks

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Re: OSAMA ABDULLAH - Confirm this urgently!
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 10:09:20 am »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Sorry for missing this post.  I didn't see it.  Can you please brothers provide some valuable links to back up your claims?  I think this is an important point that Brahma is Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham), peace be upon him.

May Allah Almighty bless you!  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 11:03:49 am »
Walaikum As-Salamu Brother Osama, I have read a brief article on it in the past but I can't found it now! anyway here is One.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2014, 07:13:53 am by MuslimBoy »

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2014, 02:19:23 am »
Prophet Mohammed(s) in Hindu Veda:

“Athesminanthare mlech acharyana samanitha mahamada ethikyatha shisyasaga samanitham”

Vyasan says “At that time a foreign prophet names mahammed and his followers appear”. (Bavishwal puranam 3:3:3:5)

Vyasan says “He was a prophet from the desert, he five times clean his body part by water and pray to god. He destroy the all the evil power and make people to ideal path (path of god).he is one of the slave of god”. (Bavishwal puranam 3:3:3:68)

Vyasan says” His follower cut their fore skin, they breed chin, they never breed hair, and they are Revolutionaries. They are making hallo for the people come to prayer, they eaten all the meat without pork, they fight against the people, who deviated from the truth and morality, they known as musilivan. They are walking the path of ideal people”. (Bavishwal puranam 3:3:3:25-28)
(A.H. VIDYARTHI & U. ALI: Muhammed in Parsi, Hindu and Buddhist Scriptures, Page36).

“Edam jana upasrutha naramshamsa stha vishythe shshtim sahsra navitham cha cowmara arush meshta dadmehea ushta yasya pravahino vadu mantho dir dasha varshme radhasya ni jihidathe diva eshamano upasprysha asha hrishayea mamehe shatam nishkan dhasha sraja threni shathanyvartham sahsadhasha gonam”

“Hey people! You listen here carefully “a good man praised, I welcome him from between sixty thousands ninety enemy and he traveled by male and female camel. His Majesty fall beyond the haven. He had given to god 10 rectangle, 100 gold coins, 300 Arabic horses, 10,000 cows.” (Adarva Veda, vimshakandam suktham 27 slogam 1 to 3) 

From the above verses we understand that:

1)   “Edam jana upasrutha” its means that this message is the important message.
That means this verse must know all the believers. It includes an important message for all the believers.
2)   “Naramshamsa” means good and praised. Muhammad the Arabic word has two meaning good and praised.
3)   “Stha vishythe” means he praised. From the history there is only one man praise more than anyone (Muhammed(s)).a Muslim praise Muhammed(s) 30 times per day(prayer).when they here his name they say “salalahu alyva salam” .god praise to him. We Muslim use his name with(s), (pbuh), and (e) means god praise to him.
4)   “Sixty thousand enemy”. When he lived Mecca, population of Mecca between sixty thousands to seventy thousand.
5)   “Cowmara” this word has two meaning 1) ideal ruler (Mohammed(s) an ideal ruler.2) he spread the peace to the society (prophet).both meaning apt to Muhammed(s).he spread Islam (means peace) to society. 
6)   “Vadu mantho dirdasha” its means that he travel camel with his wife’s. There is not a possible he is an Indian, because Indians never travel by camel .it indicate someone from Arabia. Here Veda says ‘wife’s not wife, Mohammed(s) had more than two wife’s.
7)   “He had given to god 10 rectangle, 100 gold coins, 300 Arabic horses, 10,000 cows”. Here 10 rectangles indicate his 10 good followers (during his life period there is 10 people his good follower and god says from Qur’an they are going to haven).100 gold means 100 good follower of Muhammed(s) they are called ‘muhajir’,they travel from Mecca to madina with Muhammed(s) during ‘hijara’.
“300 Arabic horses” indicate his first war ‘badr’, total number of people in Islamic side was 313(8 person can’t involve the war, one person die before the war and 4 of them are children.remaing 300 Veda mention here).10,000 cows indicate victory of Mecca at that time number of Muslims are 10,000.

From the above verses we can understand that.

1)   Hindu expected kalki born 14,000 years ago  Arabian desert.
2)   There is no way to chance of incarnation. Truth is they are prophet not an incarnation of god.
3)   Vyasan explain the coming prophet. He may be one of the prophets.

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 12:19:30 pm »
I won't go into mazes and stuff . Let me get this straight , Islamophobes whould go so far as to claim prophet Muhammad peace upon him took things from Hinduism ?! Let's see : He couldn't read or write his own language - let alone other ones ! - , he never left the Arabian pensuila , his life - especially after the prophecy - is recorded in details , and his enemies among Arabians , Persians , and Romans - they had spies and agents in the land of course - would have noticed if he had any book from which he takes . After all of this , anyone bringing a script from any religion and claiming prophet Muhammad peace upon him took things from it is making an absurd claim that he can't prove in any way .

On the other hand , it is possible to find truth in different scriptures because we are told that their people altered and corrupted them . So if there are prophecies and such of the prophet peace upon him , that would be pf the remaining truth in them .