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Offline Mujahid Saifullah

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Sectarian paranoia.
« on: March 04, 2013, 02:29:54 AM »
We know the kuffār plot and scheme to spread lies about our deen, and they shall burn for their deceit.
But, I also see Muslims doing the same.

It is said of the Shi'a, that they are permitted to lie to other Muslims, and that they believe they can steal from other Muslims. It is also said that they condone sex with children, and conspire against Islam. This is all false.

As for their self-flagellation, it happens, but it's not something encouraged by the Shi'a scholars.

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 03:29:17 AM »
We know the kuffār plot and scheme to spread lies about our deen, and they shall burn for their deceit.
But, I also see Muslims doing the same.

It is said of the Shi'a, that they are permitted to lie to other Muslims, and that they believe they can steal from other Muslims. It is also said that they condone sex with children, and conspire against Islam. This is all false.

As for their self-flagellation, it happens, but it's not something encouraged by the Shi'a scholars.

The Taliban has spread those lies. They say the Shi'a can be legally killed according to the Qur'an.

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 10:30:05 AM »
Peace
I believe you are mistaken, the shias have a concept of "Taqiyya", which is lying to protect oneself from persecution of religious compulsion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz1GeyWuC18

this is a good video for the refutation of the three biggest misconceptions on islam
Peace

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 06:48:09 PM »
Taqiyya, Kitman, Tawriya are all things Islamophobic morons cite. They also claim Jihad is Holy War and Muslims want to take over the world, etc.
These people are demonic in nature, and should be slain. I do not wish to behave as they do. Hatred of Shi'ites is the same as what the Godless do.
Hizbu'llah are Shi'ites and they support Hamas and the war against the Zionists. Most of the Sunni states do nothing to help Falastin. The Shi'a states offer support to the cause. My enemy is the Zionist, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Besides, all whom proclaim to be Muslim, and are sincere in their deen; they are my brothers. I will go to war for Islam. Our ummah are being slaughtered by the Devil-worshipers. There is no need to add to the misery and madness by succumbing to sectarian ideology. There is only one Islam. Between Muslims there shall be no division. There are to be no tribes, clans, races, sects, etc. We are to be as one, in unison, united against tyranny and oppression. Alhamdulillah!

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 09:48:10 AM »
Taqiyya, Kitman, Tawriya are all things Islamophobic morons cite. They also claim Jihad is Holy War and Muslims want to take over the world, etc.
These people are demonic in nature, and should be slain. I do not wish to behave as they do. Hatred of Shi'ites is the same as what the Godless do.
Hizbu'llah are Shi'ites and they support Hamas and the war against the Zionists. Most of the Sunni states do nothing to help Falastin. The Shi'a states offer support to the cause. My enemy is the Zionist, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Besides, all whom proclaim to be Muslim, and are sincere in their deen; they are my brothers. I will go to war for Islam. Our ummah are being slaughtered by the Devil-worshipers. There is no need to add to the misery and madness by succumbing to sectarian ideology. There is only one Islam. Between Muslims there shall be no division. There are to be no tribes, clans, races, sects, etc. We are to be as one, in unison, united against tyranny and oppression. Alhamdulillah!
You remind me of a general giving a rousing speech to his troops before impending annihalation :D Thats a good trait you have there. Not many people are gifted with the art of speech.

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 03:38:57 PM »
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You remind me of a general giving a rousing speech to his troops before impending annihilation :D Thats a good trait you have there. Not many people are gifted with the art of speech.
I can never tell whether you are being sincere or sardonic.

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 09:49:08 AM »
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You remind me of a general giving a rousing speech to his troops before impending annihilation :D Thats a good trait you have there. Not many people are gifted with the art of speech.
I can never tell whether you are being sincere or sardonic.
Sincere :D I admit 'impending annihalation' is a but of a strange example but I couldnt think of any other example in which rousing speeches are put to great effect. Although i guess during the crusades Imams greatly helped rouse troops so that they fought more effectively. But yes, my comment was sincere. Albeit a bit strange. I usually put lol or jk after jokes.
I dont think ive really joked much on this forum now that i think of it.

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 09:26:00 PM »
We know the kuffār plot and scheme to spread lies about our deen, and they shall burn for their deceit.
But, I also see Muslims doing the same.

It is said of the Shi'a, that they are permitted to lie to other Muslims, and that they believe they can steal from other Muslims. It is also said that they condone sex with children, and conspire against Islam. This is all false.

As for their self-flagellation, it happens, but it's not something encouraged by the Shi'a scholars.

The Taliban has spread those lies. They say the Shi'a can be legally killed according to the Qur'an.

The shias cause more harm to us than the non muslims.  According to quran and sunnah, they arent considered muslims and this is not causing sectarianism.  its true.  I dont like how u talk negatively about the Taliban. 

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Re: Sectarian paranoia.
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 12:09:31 AM »
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Sincere :D I admit 'impending annihilation' is a bit of a strange example but I couldn't think of any other example in which rousing speeches are put to great effect.
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words. The phrase 'impending annihilation' can be understood to mean that we are the ones who shall be annihilated. But I understand that you meant the annihilation of our enemies. :D

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I don't like how u talk negatively about the Taliban.
The Taliban had righteous beginnings, this is true. The Pashtun are a righteous people. The original Mujahideen of Afghanistan were sincere in their deen. I have a lot of love and respect for them. Even today, they are still fighting against Imperialist forces and deserve our support. But, it doesn't change the fact that elements of the Taliban, especially in Pakistan are most certainty not righteous in their actions. The Taliban have been on a spiritual decline for a while now. They had lost support of the people because of their actions. They have also encouraged ethnic conflict, which is most certainly not righteous. We can all agree, however, that the Taliban are far more righteous than all whom are opposed to them. The 'Northern Alliance' who traffic children into sex slavery, and align themselves with foreign criminals who exploit the land and it's people. The deceitful and manipulative Americans (who are themselves controlled by Zionist puppeteers) and their Godless allied forces who rape and murder for entertainment, just as the Hindu occupiers of Jammu and Kashmir do, and just as the Zionists occupying Falastin also do. So of course, we should always support those who fight against tyranny and oppression, and whilst the tyranny and oppression continues, perhaps we can ignore innocuous unrighteousness committed by our brothers, but we should never condone behavior that is akin to that of our enemies. We can not ignore the tyrannical nature of the Taliban at present.