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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: help osama or anyone
« on: February 08, 2013, 10:56:06 AM »
All their points have been thoroughly refuted. Unless there's something I missed that you should type here.
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POLITICS & RELIGION / Where have the civil wars of the Muslims taken us?
« on: February 08, 2013, 10:10:56 AM »63
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / What would a world without religion be like?
« on: February 08, 2013, 08:14:54 AM »
Don't say "No Bin Laden" because America gave Bin Laden 6 bill from 1989 to 1992. Religion was used as an excuse.
Don't say "No Holocaust" because America sponsored the 3rd Reich and was spoonfeeding Hitler throughout the entire WWII. Hitler used religion as an excuse to recruit Nazis. Hindu swastika, Iron cross, etc.
Don't say "No homeless Palestinians" because America is breastfeeding Israel, this will really keep the war going for a while. They just misinterpreted the bible and made the Jews think their messiah will return them Israel. They STILL believe they will get Israel back. Again, ruled by a higher power (the Zionists).
The CIA trained terrorists look it up on BBC.
Whenever the US stops funding someone, they mysteriously die (Hitler's suicide leaving only a blown skull, Bin Laden's death and body thrown in the ocean, etc.)
Don't say "No Holocaust" because America sponsored the 3rd Reich and was spoonfeeding Hitler throughout the entire WWII. Hitler used religion as an excuse to recruit Nazis. Hindu swastika, Iron cross, etc.
Don't say "No homeless Palestinians" because America is breastfeeding Israel, this will really keep the war going for a while. They just misinterpreted the bible and made the Jews think their messiah will return them Israel. They STILL believe they will get Israel back. Again, ruled by a higher power (the Zionists).
The CIA trained terrorists look it up on BBC.
Whenever the US stops funding someone, they mysteriously die (Hitler's suicide leaving only a blown skull, Bin Laden's death and body thrown in the ocean, etc.)
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Did you Know? (Scientific Facts) / America gave Al-Qaeda 6 billion dollars from 1989 to 1992
« on: February 08, 2013, 06:15:11 AM »
Yup. They funded Hitler throughout the entire WWII, they funded Al-Qaeda (Operation Cyclone), and are currently funding Israel. But there's one thing to note though. People always say: "That was in the past!".
America hasn't changed. When America stopped funding Hitler, he commit suicide. When America stopped funding Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden died. It seems that whenever America stops breastfeeding someone with their billions, they automatically die.
ONE MORE THING:
PROPAGANDA. When they were paying Hitler, they never told any American about the Holocaust. When they were funding Al-Qaeda, they never revealed it to the public until when Bin Laden was almost dead and they could dub a tape of him and say it was proof he did 9/11. Right now, they admit to funding Israel, but they say that Palestinians are the terrorists!. Wake up before it's too late!
America hasn't changed. When America stopped funding Hitler, he commit suicide. When America stopped funding Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden died. It seems that whenever America stops breastfeeding someone with their billions, they automatically die.
ONE MORE THING:
PROPAGANDA. When they were paying Hitler, they never told any American about the Holocaust. When they were funding Al-Qaeda, they never revealed it to the public until when Bin Laden was almost dead and they could dub a tape of him and say it was proof he did 9/11. Right now, they admit to funding Israel, but they say that Palestinians are the terrorists!. Wake up before it's too late!
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Kill all the polytheists!
« on: February 08, 2013, 05:14:27 AM »
Go back to Yahoo Answers. Your [censored] 'arguments' are of no worth here..
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Dhul-Kifl (PBUH) = Buddha or Ezekiel or Both?
« on: February 07, 2013, 02:58:57 PM »
Krishna comes from "Krestus" which means the anointed one, Christians use the title for Jesus (PBUH). There are many parallels between Krishna and Jesus.
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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Reponse to creation.com
« on: February 07, 2013, 02:47:00 PM »Assalam alaikumQuoteThe Quran specifically uses the word "Whatever" or "What" ("ma" in Arabic ما). This Arabic word "ma" cannot refer to humans; this word is strictly reserved for nonhumans (the Arabic word that does refer to humans is "men من", meaning "who" or "whoever" but it was not used here).وَرَبُّكَ الْغَنِيُّ ذُو الرَّحْمَةِ ۚ إِن يَشَأْ يُذْهِبْكُمْ وَيَسْتَخْلِفْ مِن بَعْدِكُم مَّا يَشَاءُ كَمَا أَنشَأَكُم مِّن ذُرِّيَّةِ قَوْمٍ آخَرِينَ
This verse says that if God wishes He can make our descendents nonhuman just like our ancestors.
Transliteration
Warabbuka alghaniyyu thoo arrahmatiin yasha/ yuthhibkum wayastakhlif min baAAdikum mayashao kama anshaakum min thurriyyati qawminakhareen
http://quran.com/6/133
"whatever He wishes" has nothing to do with anything.
http://seemyparadigm.webs.com/evolution.htm
What are you implying here?
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THE 9/11 LIE WAS 100% AN ISRAELI MOSSAD OPERATION / Eye witnesses that testified that the towers crumbled by explosions
« on: February 07, 2013, 02:04:14 PM »
" I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest
I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives"
(Felipe Andres Coronel)
In fact, BBC, Fox News, etc, you know, the big guys, they reported the collapse of the towers 20 minutes before it happened. The underdogs of the media, the unpopular channels, all reported that "the third explosion caused the collapse"
More here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfL-KYpoyI
I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives"
(Felipe Andres Coronel)
In fact, BBC, Fox News, etc, you know, the big guys, they reported the collapse of the towers 20 minutes before it happened. The underdogs of the media, the unpopular channels, all reported that "the third explosion caused the collapse"
More here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfL-KYpoyI
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Rebuttals & Polemics / Reponse to creation.com
« on: February 07, 2013, 01:05:12 PM »
This website is clearly a joke!
I would start by quoting this:
(Quran 6.133) Your Lord, the Rich and Merciful, if He wishes, can discard you and succeed you with whatever He wishes; Just like He created you from the seed of another clan.
Other translations:
And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.
That's right, Allah creates how he wills!
The Quran specifically uses the word "Whatever" or "What" ("ma" in Arabic ما). This Arabic word "ma" cannot refer to humans; this word is strictly reserved for nonhumans (the Arabic word that does refer to humans is "men من", meaning "who" or "whoever" but it was not used here).
This verse says that if God wishes He can make our descendents nonhuman just like our ancestors.
In conclusion, Adam & Eve were indeed created in Paradise from nothing however their coming down to Earth is a totally different story.
Genesis is mythology!
According to Genesis, the Earth was made in 6 Earth rotation days. Man was created on Earth, in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:8). Look what they wrote!
"No clear details of each creation day. Some vague clustering of the days in 41:9–12"
Excuse me, plants before the sun is not clear details. Btw, the chronological order of the Qur'an is not official, it was compiled by humans after all. However, every word of it has been the same.
The age of the Earth and the universe in the bible is literally 6,000 years old.
- Jesus Christ was born 77 generations after Adam, which is a period of approximately 4,000 years (Luke 3:23-38).
- Jesus Christ was born approximately 2,000 years ago.
- Therefore Adam was born approximately 6,000 years ago.
- Adam was born at the beginning of the Creation, according to Jesus Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4.
- The whole Universe was therefore also created approximately 6,000 years ago.
However, in the Qur'an, time is relative. That's right, the Earth was created in two youms, and the universe in six. Youms is not a literal 24 hour day, but a relative period of time. Is the age of the Earth one third of the age of the universe? Yes. The age of the Earth and the universe in the bible is messed up!
Let this scientific bullshittery speak for itself:
Man and the animals were created vegetarian (Genesis 1:29–30). No death and suffering in the original creation. Since plants were made way later, everything would've died.
Carnivory (and thus death and suffering) apparently integral to life on the created Earth from the first. The Koran (6:142, 16:5, 40:79) says that cattle were created for man to eat.
I would start by quoting this:
(Quran 6.133) Your Lord, the Rich and Merciful, if He wishes, can discard you and succeed you with whatever He wishes; Just like He created you from the seed of another clan.
Other translations:
And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.
That's right, Allah creates how he wills!
The Quran specifically uses the word "Whatever" or "What" ("ma" in Arabic ما). This Arabic word "ma" cannot refer to humans; this word is strictly reserved for nonhumans (the Arabic word that does refer to humans is "men من", meaning "who" or "whoever" but it was not used here).
This verse says that if God wishes He can make our descendents nonhuman just like our ancestors.
In conclusion, Adam & Eve were indeed created in Paradise from nothing however their coming down to Earth is a totally different story.
Genesis is mythology!
According to Genesis, the Earth was made in 6 Earth rotation days. Man was created on Earth, in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:8). Look what they wrote!
"No clear details of each creation day. Some vague clustering of the days in 41:9–12"
Excuse me, plants before the sun is not clear details. Btw, the chronological order of the Qur'an is not official, it was compiled by humans after all. However, every word of it has been the same.
The age of the Earth and the universe in the bible is literally 6,000 years old.
- Jesus Christ was born 77 generations after Adam, which is a period of approximately 4,000 years (Luke 3:23-38).
- Jesus Christ was born approximately 2,000 years ago.
- Therefore Adam was born approximately 6,000 years ago.
- Adam was born at the beginning of the Creation, according to Jesus Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4.
- The whole Universe was therefore also created approximately 6,000 years ago.
However, in the Qur'an, time is relative. That's right, the Earth was created in two youms, and the universe in six. Youms is not a literal 24 hour day, but a relative period of time. Is the age of the Earth one third of the age of the universe? Yes. The age of the Earth and the universe in the bible is messed up!
Let this scientific bullshittery speak for itself:
Man and the animals were created vegetarian (Genesis 1:29–30). No death and suffering in the original creation. Since plants were made way later, everything would've died.
Carnivory (and thus death and suffering) apparently integral to life on the created Earth from the first. The Koran (6:142, 16:5, 40:79) says that cattle were created for man to eat.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / All terrorists are Muslim!
« on: February 07, 2013, 11:46:35 AM »
...except for the 96% that aren't.
How many U.S civilians have been killed by Muslims since 9/11?
ZERO.
If Br. Osama Abdullah and the many eye witnesses who said the "WTC came down like it was a pack of explosives" are correct, and denying the 1% possibility that Muslims did 9/11, Muslims have killed ZERO U.S civilians for the last thirty years. Without 9/11, Bush had no excuse to declare the war of terror. How many people died in the wars justified by 9/11? 2,500,000!
Source: The FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05
What about the rest of the world? Muslims account for 0.4% of global terrorism according to a Europol report.
For 2007:
2006:
For 2008:
(According to the report, there was 1 “Islamist attack†in the UK in 2008, which was omitted in the table above. It has been included in the bar graph below.)
Just glancing at those tables is enough to know how absurd it is to claim that “all terrorists are Muslims.†That statement is nowhere near the truth. If we compile the data, it comes out to this:
Source: http://www.europol.europa.eu/publications/EU_Terrorism_Situation_and_Trend_Report_TE-SAT/TESAT2009.pdf
On p.7, the 2009 Europol report concludes:
Islamist terrorism is still perceived as being the biggest threat worldwide, despite the fact that the EU only faced one Islamist terrorist attack in 2008. This bomb attack took place in the UK…Separatist terrorism remains the terrorism area which affects the EU most. This includes Basque separatist terrorism in Spain and France, and Corsican terrorism in France…Past contacts between ETA and the FARC illustrate the fact that also separatist terrorist organizations seek cooperation partners outside the EU on the basis of common interests. In the UK, dissident Irish republican groups, principally the RIRA and the CIRA, and other paramilitary groups may continue to engage in crime and violence.
How many U.S civilians have been killed by Muslims since 9/11?
ZERO.
If Br. Osama Abdullah and the many eye witnesses who said the "WTC came down like it was a pack of explosives" are correct, and denying the 1% possibility that Muslims did 9/11, Muslims have killed ZERO U.S civilians for the last thirty years. Without 9/11, Bush had no excuse to declare the war of terror. How many people died in the wars justified by 9/11? 2,500,000!
Source: The FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05
What about the rest of the world? Muslims account for 0.4% of global terrorism according to a Europol report.
For 2007:
2006:
For 2008:
(According to the report, there was 1 “Islamist attack†in the UK in 2008, which was omitted in the table above. It has been included in the bar graph below.)
Just glancing at those tables is enough to know how absurd it is to claim that “all terrorists are Muslims.†That statement is nowhere near the truth. If we compile the data, it comes out to this:
Source: http://www.europol.europa.eu/publications/EU_Terrorism_Situation_and_Trend_Report_TE-SAT/TESAT2009.pdf
On p.7, the 2009 Europol report concludes:
Islamist terrorism is still perceived as being the biggest threat worldwide, despite the fact that the EU only faced one Islamist terrorist attack in 2008. This bomb attack took place in the UK…Separatist terrorism remains the terrorism area which affects the EU most. This includes Basque separatist terrorism in Spain and France, and Corsican terrorism in France…Past contacts between ETA and the FARC illustrate the fact that also separatist terrorist organizations seek cooperation partners outside the EU on the basis of common interests. In the UK, dissident Irish republican groups, principally the RIRA and the CIRA, and other paramilitary groups may continue to engage in crime and violence.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Kill all the polytheists!
« on: February 07, 2013, 11:33:40 AM »
It's just old testament << Sound familiar?
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Ya'Jooj and Ma'Jooj (Gog and Magog)
« on: February 07, 2013, 03:12:36 AM »As-Salamu 'Alaykum, yesterday I asked my mother about the day of judgment, and the signs and things that are going to happen. And I asked about Ya'Jooj and Ma'Jooj (Got and Magog) and I went online and I read that Dhul-Qarnayn (PBUH) built a gate somewhere between two mountains I believe, and I read a passage from the Noble Qur'an. And when I read about where the gate/wall might be, I read that it might be the great wall of China. Because people died while making the wall and they're in the wall trying to get out, that's what I thought to myself. And I also read that the Chinese built this wall to protect themselves from the Mongolians who where attacking them and killing them. Some say that the mongolians are Ya'Jooj and Ma'Jooj (Gog and Magog), and some people say that the Chinese are Ya'Jooj and ma'jooj (Gog and Magog) because they're high in numbers. So I would like to know your thoughts on this brothers, Jazakum'Allah Khair.
I heard it wasn't the great wall of China. It can't be because the Mongols just went around it.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« on: February 07, 2013, 02:38:20 AM »All extant Homo sapiens sapiens most recent common ancestor can be traced to East Africa (modern day Ethiopia). There are people who misunderstand the use of the word 'theory' in these matters.QuoteA scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.
Islamic scientists understood evolution 1,000 years before Darwin was even born. The hypothesis goes back even further, to Aristotle, and Plato before him.
Since Darwin, the only people denying evolution are persons whom are misinformed.
The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that describes the early development of the Universe.
Thank you!
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« on: February 06, 2013, 03:47:56 PM »Us as humans evolving, yes.No, we did not evolve from similar ancestors or any bogus like that. We all are from Adam, we are all sons of Adam. Btw, the word 'day' in Arabic is 'yawm' which means period too, so it can be classified as 6 periods too if that makes sense.
Are you in opposition of evolution and the Big Bang?
Other beings having being evolved, Islam does not go against it neither support it.
The big bang - The universe and the earth being one unit and having a beginning supports the big bangtheory and is in the Qur'an, including the expansion of the universe. Why? what's up?
You said we didn't have a common ancestor, then you said we all descended from Adam. It's called pwning yourself
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Calling another professed Muslim a kaafir
« on: February 06, 2013, 12:35:14 PM »And by the way, did you know that the word "Shia" is also forbidden in the Glorious Quran? Allah Almighty DIRECTLY told us to not be Shias (divisions). It's like you naming yourself a Kafir Muslim, or a Mushrik Muslim. It doesn't work!
So even the name of their false cult and false religion is repulsive! Everything about this deviant cult, including its very name, is repulsive!
Again, visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,561.msg2891.html#new
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
2:256 - There shall be no compulsion in the religion
Quote
did you know that the word "Shia" is also forbidden in the Glorious Quran?In American dictionaries, Shi'a means "the Muslims of the branch of Islam comprising sects believing in Ali and the Imams as the only rightful successors of Muhammad and in the concealment and messianic return of the last recognized Imam"
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