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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on December 10, 2022, 09:06:22 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

I'll just repost my top answer again:

We don't need to conjecture, brother.  Allah Almighty let the polytheist trinitarian pagans drown in conjecture.  Their entire religion is a religion of conjecture, exactly as Allah Almighty calls it in the Glorious Quran:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm



What you mentioned above were examples I used to prove that Jesus could've been stabbed many times and he still would not have felt pain nor would have died.  Exactly as Abraham when he was thrown in the fire.  I am not conjecturing here.  I was simply shedding light on how physically mighty and powerful our Messiah was.  Peace be upon all of the Prophets.  The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours.  Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion.  Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal.  This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it.  Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it.  A soldier was placed for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it.  You can read about it in the mentioned article:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm



Now as to what exactly actually happened, I will not conjecture.  Allah Almighty designed the Messiah's crucifixion event to drown the polytheist trinitarian pagans in conjecture.  We see this in their NT where Pilot was standing between two identical Jesuses.  That is a Divine setup for conjecture.  We should not go inside this rabbit hole as Muslims.  It is not for us.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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"Hadiths are rumors" ? what ? are you a quranist?
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Hadiths are rumors, leave them aside. So since this is not mentioned in the Qur'an, don't try in vain to tell her age. Maybe forty years old.

18:21 And as such, We revealed their case so that they would know that the promise of God is true and that there is no doubt regarding the Hour. They argued among themselves regarding them, so they said: "Erect a monument for them!" Their Lord is fully aware of them, those who managed to win the argument said: "We will construct a temple over them."

18:22 They will say: "Three, the fourth is their dog." And they say: "Five, the sixth is their dog," guessing at what they do not know. And they say: "Seven, and the eighth is their dog." Say: "My Lord is fully aware of their number, none know them except for a few." So do not argue regarding them except with proof, and do not seek information regarding them from anyone.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by SalafiMuslim on December 09, 2022, 10:11:05 PM »
Read the article in the link.  The double is in their NIV NT.

I am not arguing with a Christian, if I was I would have been done with him in like 3 minutes. Im just asking in regards to your contrary opinion which is against the current consensus.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by SalafiMuslim on December 09, 2022, 10:09:54 PM »
I mean you have a viewpoint which is against the common consensus on what happened during the event. majority of muslims believe in a double where one was made to appear like christ and that he was killed whilst the real one ascended to heaven and was never put on the cross. You however say that he was put on the cross but that he wasn't able to feel the pain being inflicted and you gave examples from the quran such as Abraham in the fire or Jonah in the stomach of the whale to prove your point. Wouldn't this also be conjecture on your part to assume that Isa couldn't feel pain?
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on December 09, 2022, 12:12:51 PM »
I just updated the article to make it much easier to spot, brother :)
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on December 09, 2022, 10:54:53 AM »
Read the article in the link.  The double is in their NIV NT.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by SalafiMuslim on December 09, 2022, 06:38:27 AM »
So how does the concensus that there was a double and that he was made to appear like Jesus and was killed instead of Isa?
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on December 09, 2022, 12:02:20 AM »
We don't need to conjecture, brother.  Allah Almighty let the polytheist trinitarian pagans drown in conjecture.  Their entire religion is a religion of conjecture, exactly as Allah Almighty calls it in the Glorious Quran:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm



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