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Salam Alykum,

i want to e-mail his student, not he (Br.Imran) himself.

Br.Imran is an orator just like Dr.Zakir Naik, and also a comparative religion student. He own his dawah organization that is IREF (Islamic Research & Educational Foundation).

He said that he has students and i know he (Br.Imran) is a busy guy and this is why i want to contact with his student only through e-mail.

if you know IREF, please give me their e-mail, i really want to contact with them.

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Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri says that Dr.Zakir Naik is a Liar.

Dr. Zakir Abdul Karim Naik is famous for his lectures on comparative religion and Salafism.  We have provided below some exclusive details about him which have been collected from his Websites, Internet, You tube and other published information available on public domain.

(1) BRIEF BIOGRAPHY

~As per IRF Website Dr. Zakir Naik was born on 18th October, 1965.  But his website does not give information where he was born and brought up.  His Website also does not give any information about his family background, his father, occupation, qualifications, etc. It is mentioned that he studied medicine and passed  Bachelors Degree in Medicine and Surgery (MBBS) from Topiwala National Medical College, Nair Hospital, Mumbai, India. But his website does not give details about the academic year in which he actually passed MBBS Exam.

His Website does not mention names of schools or colleges where he studied Islamic subjects.  It is also not known  who taught him reading  of Quran because his Arabic accent  and Quran reading is completely out of gear, unprofessional and against tajweed rules.  His website is also silent as to where he studied Tafseer al-Quran, Usool-e-Hadith, rules of Fiqh, Sharia, Arabic language, and other essential Islamic subjects required of a scholar who is allowed to give opinions on issues of Islamic fiqh.

It seems Dr. Naik is a mysterious home grown, home fed,  self read and self trained scholar of Salafism.

In his speeches he says he is a student of comparative religion, but he gives his rulings / opinions literally on all Islamic subjects.  He even criticizes Imams of Fiqh and Ahadith.  He claims that they (Imams of Fiqh and Ahadith)  did not have full information with them when they gave their Islamic rulings.  He claims he judges the Imams rulings and acts as per his better understanding of Quran, Ahadith, Sharia and Fiqh.  He claims that acceptance and following of Imams as truthful teachers of Islam has damaged Islam.

(2) ZAKIR NAIK TEACHERS


~As per the information on his Website, Dr. Naik was influenced by the comparative religion lectures of Shaikh Ahmed Deedat (رحمة لله علىـہ) of South Africa (1918-2005), when he was studying medicine.  This means that Dr. Naik's  self-home-reading of Islamic subjects started when he was  around 22 years old (around 1987).  Amazingly, within 3 years' of self-reading of Islamic subjects (1987-1990), in addition to his extensive medical full-time on-campus study, semester exams, medical internship, etc., he read everything about Islam and established Islamic Research Foundation in February 1991 and started full time Da'wa.

In his lectures, Dr. Naik says that he started Da'wa even before the establishment of IRF in 1991.  This shows Dr. Naik has exceptional ability of memorization.  He did not read Islamic subjects with the intention to understand them, he simply memorized every book that came his way.

Those whose memory is sharp, are generally intelligent, but they often become dictionaries. They never try to  understand the subject; they memorize it with the intention to repeat it either in an exam or in front of people to get applause.  They heavily depend upon their word-by-word  photo finish memory and develop their skills in debates.   They mesmerize their audience by skillful display of their memory and often turn the tables on their opponents in debates.  They can convert logic into illogic and wisdom into stupidity and vice versa by their arguments and oratory.  They use their vast memory to confuse their opponents and followers both.  Over a period of time when they become famous and develop considerable following among masses, they start large scale misinterpretation of  facts by their skillful arguments and become leaders of a new group in the world.  That is how Ibn Khuzaimah (933-846), Ibn Taymiyya (1263-1328), Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab (1703–1792), etc., became  prominent scholars of Salafism by the power of their  super memory and oratory. Now Zakir Naik (b.1965) is a living example of this phenomenon.

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He said that Dr.Zakir Naik is a Liar.

Dr. Zakir Abdul Karim Naik is famous for his lectures on comparative religion and Salafism.  We have provided below some exclusive details about him which have been collected from his Websites, Internet, You tube and other published information available on public domain.

(1) BRIEF BIOGRAPHY

~As per IRF Website Dr. Zakir Naik was born on 18th October, 1965.  But his website does not give information where he was born and brought up.  His Website also does not give any information about his family background, his father, occupation, qualifications, etc. It is mentioned that he studied medicine and passed  Bachelors Degree in Medicine and Surgery (MBBS) from Topiwala National Medical College, Nair Hospital, Mumbai, India. But his website does not give details about the academic year in which he actually passed MBBS Exam.

His Website does not mention names of schools or colleges where he studied Islamic subjects.  It is also not known  who taught him reading  of Quran because his Arabic accent  and Quran reading is completely out of gear, unprofessional and against tajweed rules.  His website is also silent as to where he studied Tafseer al-Quran, Usool-e-Hadith, rules of Fiqh, Sharia, Arabic language, and other essential Islamic subjects required of a scholar who is allowed to give opinions on issues of Islamic fiqh.

It seems Dr. Naik is a mysterious home grown, home fed,  self read and self trained scholar of Salafism.

In his speeches he says he is a student of comparative religion, but he gives his rulings / opinions literally on all Islamic subjects.  He even criticizes Imams of Fiqh and Ahadith.  He claims that they (Imams of Fiqh and Ahadith)  did not have full information with them when they gave their Islamic rulings.  He claims he judges the Imams rulings and acts as per his better understanding of Quran, Ahadith, Sharia and Fiqh.  He claims that acceptance and following of Imams as truthful teachers of Islam has damaged Islam.

(2) ZAKIR NAIK TEACHERS


~As per the information on his Website, Dr. Naik was influenced by the comparative religion lectures of Shaikh Ahmed Deedat (رحمة لله علىـہ) of South Africa (1918-2005), when he was studying medicine.  This means that Dr. Naik's  self-home-reading of Islamic subjects started when he was  around 22 years old (around 1987).  Amazingly, within 3 years' of self-reading of Islamic subjects (1987-1990), in addition to his extensive medical full-time on-campus study, semester exams, medical internship, etc., he read everything about Islam and established Islamic Research Foundation in February 1991 and started full time Da'wa.

In his lectures, Dr. Naik says that he started Da'wa even before the establishment of IRF in 1991.  This shows Dr. Naik has exceptional ability of memorization.  He did not read Islamic subjects with the intention to understand them, he simply memorized every book that came his way.

Those whose memory is sharp, are generally intelligent, but they often become dictionaries. They never try to  understand the subject; they memorize it with the intention to repeat it either in an exam or in front of people to get applause.  They heavily depend upon their word-by-word  photo finish memory and develop their skills in debates.   They mesmerize their audience by skillful display of their memory and often turn the tables on their opponents in debates.  They can convert logic into illogic and wisdom into stupidity and vice versa by their arguments and oratory.  They use their vast memory to confuse their opponents and followers both.  Over a period of time when they become famous and develop considerable following among masses, they start large scale misinterpretation of  facts by their skillful arguments and become leaders of a new group in the world.  That is how Ibn Khuzaimah (933-846), Ibn Taymiyya (1263-1328), Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab (1703–1792), etc., became  prominent scholars of Salafism  by the power of their  super memory and oratory. Now Zakir Naik (b.1965) is a living example of this phenomenon.

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Revelation 1:18 ►
I am he that lives, and was DEAD; and, behold, I am ALIVE for ever more, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Catholics say...
« on: October 25, 2015, 11:07:58 AM »
that Protestant and Muslim cannot interpret the scriptures ( Holy Bible ).

Refutation : ?

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 Luke 24:6

6 He is not here; he has RISEN!

hmm...

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Please response this Luke 24: 5-6 cl

5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / JESUS is GOD – Prophecies
« on: September 27, 2015, 07:06:51 AM »
Divine Messiah predicted in the Old Testament
Isaiah 7:14 “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”1

“Immanuel” literally means: “God with us.” See also Matthew 1:23; Jesus was “God with us.”

This Messiah would be born a human son, but have a higher nature
Isaiah 9:6 “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

This was a radical statement coming from a monotheistic Jewish prophet -- especially calling a human being “Mighty God”; but one that God fulfilled centuries later in Christ.

A couple hundred years later, but still more than half a millennium before Jesus walked the earth, more was predicted about the Messiah’s divine nature
Daniel 7:13-14 “There before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven . . . He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”

“Son of Man” was the primary title Jesus used for Himself -- and this passage shows that this was a clear and strong claim of deity. And in Mark, the earliest of the four Gospels, He also included the unmistakable phrase, “coming on the clouds of heaven” and applied it to Himself (Mark 14:62). His listeners got the point, refused to believe it, and added it to their reasons to try to kill Him.

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The Bible and the Nicene Creed teach that the Son is fully God. They also teach that he receives the absolute fullness of Divinity from God the Father. In other words, the Son is true God, because the Father has eternally given him the Divine essence. The Bible and the Nicene Creed also tell us that the Father and the Son are one, which means they always work together. These truths are expressed in Matthew 11:27; 28:18-19; John 1:18; 3:35; 5:17-23, 26-27; 10:29-30, 38; 14:9-11; 16:15; 17:1-2, 5, 10-11, 21-25; Philippians 2:9-11; Colossians 1:15-20; Hebrews 1:3; and 1 John 2:23. The Nicene Creed speaks of "the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, but not made, of one being with the Father."
To avoid misunderstanding it is important to explain the Christian belief about the generation of the Son and the Incarnation. God has perfect Knowledge of himself for all eternity. This knowledge may be called the Word. This Word is eternal because God is eternal and his intellect is always in perfect action. God is perfectly one, which means this Word is one with all God's attributes. In other words, this Word is infinite, all-powerful, all-knowing, truth, goodness, existence, life, love, spirit, eternal, and uncreated, which means this Word is God. This Word is perfectly one with God. The Word is called the Son because he may be described as intellectually generated. God may be called the Father because he may be described as intellectually generating the Word.
Two thousand years ago the eternal Word of God became Human and entered human history. This took place by the Son of God the Father perfectly uniting a human nature to himself. All human beings have a limited union with God. God is existence, life, love, truth, goodness, wisdom, and power. Our existence and life, and all the love, truth, goodness, wisdom and power among us, is merely a limited sharing in God. The Incarnation consists in this sharing being raised to the highest possible level, by the Word of God taking a human nature to himself. In other words, Jesus Christ is one Person with two natures, a Divine nature and a Human nature.
Jesus Christ is all-powerful, which means he is truly God. The chapter of John's Gospel quoted by the Muslim writer clearly demonstrates this. "Whatever the Father does, the Son does likewise... just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whoever he wishes... the hour is coming when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live" (John 5:19, 21, 25). The truth that the Son raises the dead, gives life, and does everything the Father does, means he must have infinite power. To possess infinite power is to be God, so the Son must be God.
The Son receives his infinite power from the Father, because he receives the fullness of Divinity from the Father. In other words, the Son is all-powerful, because the Father gives him infinite power. Also, the Son is one being with the Father, so he never works by himself, but always works with the Father. These are the reasons why Jesus says, "the Son can do nothing on his own, but only what he sees the Father doing" and "I can do nothing on my own." These words do not imply that the Son is not God, but express the truth that the Son receives the fullness of Divinity from the Father, and is perfectly one with the Father.

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The Bible uses the words 'know' in a number of different ways. Sometimes it is used to mean 'proclaim', 'reveal', or 'make known'. It can also mean to know in an intimate fashion (Genesis 4:1; Amos 3:1-2). In his first letter to the Corinthians, St Paul reminds the Corinthians that during his visit he "decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). The book of Genesis includes the story of Abraham going to sacrifice his son Isaac (Genesis 22:1-19). In this story the angel of the Lord says to Abraham, "now I know that you fear God" (Genesis 22:12).
It is possible to interpret these words of the angel to mean that Abraham's fear of God has been made known. The purpose of the trial was for Abraham to intimately know how much he feared God, and it is reasonable to say Abraham learnt how much he feared God. God knows things because they are his works and he enables them to occur, so he knows Abraham's fear of God by enabling Abraham to carry out the trial. By enabling Abraham to carry out the trial, God has enabled Abraham to know how much he fears God.
Jesus Christ is using the word 'knows' in this sense in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32. (St Augustine, ON THE TRINITY, Book 1, Chapter 12; online edition) (St Thomas Aquinas, SUMMA THEOLOGICA, 3rd Part, Question 10, Article 2, Reply to Objection 1, online edition)
Mere human beings obviously do not possess knowledge of when the day of judgement will be. Therefore, in saying that no human being knows the day or the hour, Jesus is warning his followers against attempting to work out when judgement day will be, and against proclaiming their guesses to other people. He is also telling us to ignore anyone who proclaims the time of judgement day. In the same chapter of Matthew's Gospel, Jesus says:
If anyone says to you, "Look! Here is the Messiah!" or "There he is!" - do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and produce great signs and omens, to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Take note, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, "Look! He is in the wilderness", do not go out. If they say, "Look! He is in the inner rooms", do not believe it. For as lightening comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man... Keep awake therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But understand this: if the owner of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an unexpected hour. (Matthew 24:23-27, 41-44; see also Mark 13:21-23, 32-37)
Angels may or may not have knowledge of the time of judgement day. Either way, Jesus Christ is telling us that the angels are not permitted to speak to human beings about the time of judgement day. All the good angels are faithful to this restriction because they are perfectly obedient to God. Therefore, any angel that speaks to human beings about the time of judgement day must be one of the fallen angels (also known as demons). Such an angel should definitely be ignored and kept out of our lives.
Jesus Christ has perfect knowledge of the time of judgement day. The Bible tells us that all things were made through Jesus Christ, the Son and Word of God (John 1:1-3, 14-18; Colossians 1:15-17; Hebrews 1:1-2). This means that all times were made through him, including the day of judgement. The Bible also tells us that Jesus Christ is the one who will judge all people (Matthew 25:31-46; John 5:22, 27-29; Acts 17:31). Since the day of judgement was made through Jesus Christ and he will be the judge on that day, it is reasonable to say that he has perfect knowledge of when that day will be. (St Thomas Aquinas, SUMMA THEOLOGICA, 3rd Part, Question 10, Article 2, Reply to Objection 1)
In Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32, Jesus Christ is telling his disciples that it is not part of his mission to reveal the time of judgement day. By doing this, he is discouraging his disciples, and us, from asking him when judgement day will be. Jesus does this by using a manner of speaking that his disciples were familiar with and can be understood by people familiar with the Bible, as I briefly explained above. After his resurrection, Jesus tells his disciples that they are not meant to know the times and periods determined by God (Acts 1:6-7). (Archbishop Michael Sheehan, Apologetics and Catholic Doctrine, A new edition revised by Fr Peter Joseph, The Saint Austin Press, London, 2001, pp. 384-385)
The Father has perfect knowledge of judgement day because he is God and therefore has perfect knowledge (John 17:1-3). He is said to know or reveal it because he always reveals it to the Son, because he gives the fullness of Divinity to the Son (John 3:35; 5:22, 27; 10:29; 16:15; Colossians 1:19). Also, the Father did not become Man and was not standing among the apostles. Therefore, he did not have to warn the apostles against asking him about the day of judgement like Jesus did.
In Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32, Jesus Christ calls himself 'the Son', he refers to God as 'the Father', and he lists himself between the angels and the Father, and well above men. Islam does not believe Jesus is the Son of God and it does not refer to God as 'Father' (Qur'an 4:171, 19:34-35, 88-93 and 112:1-4). Therefore, these Bible verses support Christianity and oppose Islam on these issues. The fact that Jesus places himself above the angels, and well above men, in this hierarchical list at least implies his Divinity, because who is above the angels but God. What I have said here applies to other Bible verses used in the Muslim article. I think Muslims should reflect on everything implied and taught in particular Bible verses before using them in arguments.

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[ All the doors were locked ]
John 20:19 & John 20:26.

Please explain it to me.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / The Gentiles
« on: September 02, 2015, 07:39:27 AM »
is it true that only 144,000 Jews can enter into heaven? so how about this? [  Revelation 7:9 ] about The Gentiles.

Can you explain?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Christianity
« on: August 08, 2015, 08:24:42 AM »
is this command of Jesus, to kill those who would not be ruled by him?

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me."-Luke 19:27

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assalam alykum,

my friend had challenge me if i can prove that Jesus didnt die according to the Bible.

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