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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / 911 - Never Forget
« on: September 11, 2016, 01:41:52 PM »
...That it wasn't Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Pakistan, or Syria, or Libya, or Iran
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Question about the forum
« on: August 01, 2016, 03:37:22 PM »
How come the Admin is the only one who gets to have an avatar, and we don't??
That's haram
That's haram
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Other Religions / Astrotheology - Worship of the seven heavenly bodies
« on: July 31, 2016, 02:24:46 PM »
The number seven definitely bears significance in several Ancient religions and cultures. For the sake of discussion, I will be focusing only on the Islamic significance of the number. As a Pagan, I, myself, believe in the seven chakras of the human body. I do believe
there is divinity associated with the number seven. If I began to write about it, however, it would occupy too many pages.
In the Qur'an, mention of the seven heavenly bodies is NOT referring to the seven layers of the atmosphere. Here are my thoughts about what it could in fact be referring to (Keep in mind that I do believe that some parts of the Qur'an are divinely inspired, clearly demonstrated in its eloquent sentence structure and numerical, as well as scientifical information).
The seven classical planets were: The Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
These were all visible through the naked eye in ancient times (They had outdoor lifestyles, and were much better at observing the skies than we are, we are in fact too ignorant of that, plus we have "light pollution")
Qur'an 41:12 - "And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing."
What is "the nearest heaven", according to my interpretation of the word heaven?
Venus is the closest planet to the Earth. Furthermore, after the Sun, it is the brightest of the seven heavenly bodies, too.
Let's do a linguistic analysis (Again, I'm not an Arabic speaker, so I'll be using Google Translate. However, if YOU are an Arabic speaker, please correct me!):
The word used for "heaven" in the Qur'an in 41:12 is samāwātin - heavens (Thanks, Sahih Muslim!)
Let's go to Qur'an 2:255:
"Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great."
Notice the scripture says "heavens AND the Earth". The "heavens" can not in fact refer to the "skies", but rather, celestial bodies, as the skies are already part of the Earth, so saying "heavens and the Earth" would be redundant.
there is divinity associated with the number seven. If I began to write about it, however, it would occupy too many pages.
In the Qur'an, mention of the seven heavenly bodies is NOT referring to the seven layers of the atmosphere. Here are my thoughts about what it could in fact be referring to (Keep in mind that I do believe that some parts of the Qur'an are divinely inspired, clearly demonstrated in its eloquent sentence structure and numerical, as well as scientifical information).
The seven classical planets were: The Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
These were all visible through the naked eye in ancient times (They had outdoor lifestyles, and were much better at observing the skies than we are, we are in fact too ignorant of that, plus we have "light pollution")
Qur'an 41:12 - "And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing."
What is "the nearest heaven", according to my interpretation of the word heaven?
Venus is the closest planet to the Earth. Furthermore, after the Sun, it is the brightest of the seven heavenly bodies, too.
Let's do a linguistic analysis (Again, I'm not an Arabic speaker, so I'll be using Google Translate. However, if YOU are an Arabic speaker, please correct me!):
The word used for "heaven" in the Qur'an in 41:12 is samāwātin - heavens (Thanks, Sahih Muslim!)
Let's go to Qur'an 2:255:
"Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great."
Notice the scripture says "heavens AND the Earth". The "heavens" can not in fact refer to the "skies", but rather, celestial bodies, as the skies are already part of the Earth, so saying "heavens and the Earth" would be redundant.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Bug report about the forum
« on: July 29, 2016, 06:27:18 PM »
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / "I do not worship what you worship"
« on: July 29, 2016, 06:17:26 PM »
Such are the opening words from "The Disbelievers", chapter 109 of the Qur'an
The final line, 109:6, further goes on to say this: "For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
Words to live by, for certain!
I'd like to add a few words from Albert Pike (33x Freemason) with this quote:
May The Light (Al-Noor) guide us not to our material desires, but to the fulfillment of our spiritual needs.
The final line, 109:6, further goes on to say this: "For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
Words to live by, for certain!
I'd like to add a few words from Albert Pike (33x Freemason) with this quote:
May The Light (Al-Noor) guide us not to our material desires, but to the fulfillment of our spiritual needs.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Answering-Christianity and ideological consistency
« on: July 28, 2016, 10:22:29 AM »
On one hand, the administrator claims
"Besides, with all of this tumult that is happening between Sunnis and Shias in the Muslim world, where today we have 60,000 in Syria alone got killed because of this very issue.."
On numerous other pages from the same website, he claims that the destabilization in the Middle East is the product of a Jewish conspiracy, and not religious in-fighting. Which one is it?
"Besides, with all of this tumult that is happening between Sunnis and Shias in the Muslim world, where today we have 60,000 in Syria alone got killed because of this very issue.."
On numerous other pages from the same website, he claims that the destabilization in the Middle East is the product of a Jewish conspiracy, and not religious in-fighting. Which one is it?
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / 666
« on: July 28, 2016, 09:48:57 AM »
The number 666 is the Carbon atom, and man.
Carbon-12 has six protons, six neutrons, and six electrons. Carbon is found in abundance in the stars and as Carl Sagan once said, "We're made of star stuff".
Carbon comes from the Latin word "carbo", which itself is for charcoal or coal.
Isaiah 6:6 - "Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar."
Seraphim are defined (under Christian theology) as:
"an angelic being, regarded in traditional Christian angelology as belonging to the highest order of the ninefold celestial hierarchy, associated with light, ardor, and purity."
(Source: Google Dictionary)
Carbon-12 has six protons, six neutrons, and six electrons. Carbon is found in abundance in the stars and as Carl Sagan once said, "We're made of star stuff".
Carbon comes from the Latin word "carbo", which itself is for charcoal or coal.
Isaiah 6:6 - "Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar."
Seraphim are defined (under Christian theology) as:
"an angelic being, regarded in traditional Christian angelology as belonging to the highest order of the ninefold celestial hierarchy, associated with light, ardor, and purity."
(Source: Google Dictionary)
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Other Religions / Luciferianism
« on: July 28, 2016, 09:21:38 AM »
I am trying to give a brief summary of my religious views. I am not citing Biblical verses for any statement unless I'm asked to clarify to save time.
It was spoken that the Dark Lord Yahweh placed Adam in the Garden of Eden. He instructed him to not eat from the tree of knowledge. There were actually two trees; the tree of knowledge, from which man would later eat of, and the tree of life. The Dark Lord Yahweh has claimed to be a jealous and vengeful God in the Bible. He did not want Adam to eat from the tree of knowledge, because by doing so, he would "become like gods, knowing between good and evil". However, the reason Yahweh gave to Adam for not eating the fruit was that by eating the fruit, he would "certainly die".
In comes "The Light", in the form of the serpent. Now the serpent was the wisest creature in the garden (Also in the Bible). He told Eve, "Did he really say, you will certainly die?", implying that Yahweh was lying about it. He later told Eve that instead of dying, he would "become like gods, knowing between good and evil", morality and dogma. Both Adam and Eve end up eating from the tree of knowledge. This makes Yahweh nervous, as he claims "Adam has become one of us. Let us cast him out, lest he eat from the tree of life also, and have eternal life". So, Adam and Eve are cast out of the Garden, and spend their lives on Earth, in the pursuit of gnosis (Experiential knowledge).
You see, the moral of the story was not, "Disobedience is sin", but rather, "Disobedience is necessary in the pursuit of knowledge". Since man has made "the sacrifice", which is, infinite wisdom over eternal life, we have a finite number of physical years of life to live here, for spiritual exploration. I believe in rebirth. Furthermore, this makes Lucifer the savior of man, as without his intervention, man would be spending his life in blissful and ignorant servitude. Indeed, the serpent is the only icon of free will, the bringer of light (Al-Noor as specified in the Qur'an).
It was spoken that the Dark Lord Yahweh placed Adam in the Garden of Eden. He instructed him to not eat from the tree of knowledge. There were actually two trees; the tree of knowledge, from which man would later eat of, and the tree of life. The Dark Lord Yahweh has claimed to be a jealous and vengeful God in the Bible. He did not want Adam to eat from the tree of knowledge, because by doing so, he would "become like gods, knowing between good and evil". However, the reason Yahweh gave to Adam for not eating the fruit was that by eating the fruit, he would "certainly die".
In comes "The Light", in the form of the serpent. Now the serpent was the wisest creature in the garden (Also in the Bible). He told Eve, "Did he really say, you will certainly die?", implying that Yahweh was lying about it. He later told Eve that instead of dying, he would "become like gods, knowing between good and evil", morality and dogma. Both Adam and Eve end up eating from the tree of knowledge. This makes Yahweh nervous, as he claims "Adam has become one of us. Let us cast him out, lest he eat from the tree of life also, and have eternal life". So, Adam and Eve are cast out of the Garden, and spend their lives on Earth, in the pursuit of gnosis (Experiential knowledge).
You see, the moral of the story was not, "Disobedience is sin", but rather, "Disobedience is necessary in the pursuit of knowledge". Since man has made "the sacrifice", which is, infinite wisdom over eternal life, we have a finite number of physical years of life to live here, for spiritual exploration. I believe in rebirth. Furthermore, this makes Lucifer the savior of man, as without his intervention, man would be spending his life in blissful and ignorant servitude. Indeed, the serpent is the only icon of free will, the bringer of light (Al-Noor as specified in the Qur'an).
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