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It's been lost to translation:
Instead of "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger"
It should be
"There is no deity but Allah, and Muhammad is his final Prophet"
or
"There is only one God, and Muhammad is a messenger"
notice the difference between is and a . There have been several messengers before Muhammad (PBUH), it's a mistranslation.
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As-Salamu `Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh akhi,
It's none is worthy of worship but Allah or nobody is rightly worshipped save Allah, not there is no god but Allah.
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As-Salamu `Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh akhi,
It's none is worthy of worship but Allah or nobody is rightly worshipped save Allah, not there is no god but Allah.
yes, it becomes confusing when you translate "ilah" and "allah" to have the same definition :S
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ilah actually means diety (Im 99% sure).
The khalima is as fine as it is, There is no diety but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger.
That's all you need to believe, because if you believe Muhammad SAW is his messenger, you have to follow his teachings which is that he is THE final messenger/prophet sent by Allah.
Just because ilah is translated as God doesn't mean it's always right, it's like the word 'Jannah', it actually means Garden or Paradise, NOT heaven.
Heaven means sky, if that makes sense, but Jannah is translated as Heaven because most people are used to using Jannah for Paradise or Gardens of bliss for example, and the word Heaven is used with hell normally, for example, Night and day, Male and female, Heaven and Hell.
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I think ''there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger'' is perfect
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god means deity
God, means Allah
There is deity except Allah no partner has he, and Mohammad is his servant/slave and final messenger.
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Diety does mean Ilah, but the statement La 'Ilaha 'Illa Allah means none desrves to be worshipped but Allah, and I can show you videos to support the claim.
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I think it should be:
There is no Deity except the (one and only) God (capital G) and Muhammad is the messenger of God.
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Capital G? It does not matter if it's a lower case g. There are no capitals in the arabic language, lol
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god means deity
God, means Allah
There is deity except Allah no partner has he, and Mohammad is his servant/slave and final messenger.
there is no ''Abdullah" in the kalimah so ''servent/slave'' shouldn't be in there. Allah is god. it doesn't mean god. god is a the creator of the universe and thats what the kafirs call him.
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"Allah" is NOT a name, God doesn't have a personal name, his 99 names describe him.
Allah is a contraction between "al" (the) and "ilah" (God)
al-ilah doesnt cut it since it means "the god", your are refereeing to one of many gods.
Allah mean "the God", the capital G infers the oneness of the creator, so it is a way of saying "the one and only God".
Allah is the Arabic way of refering to a monotheistic God. Arab Christians and Jews refer to God as Allah when they speak Arabic because they are monotheistic. If we talk in another language, we (arabs) say God, not Allah because we are talking in a different language.
Allah is the arabic way to say God (in a monotheistic religion)
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"Allah" is NOT a name, God doesn't have a personal name, his 99 names describe him.
Allah is a contraction between "al" (the) and "ilah" (God)
al-ilah doesnt cut it since it means "the god", your are refereeing to one of many gods.
Allah mean "the God", the capital G infers the oneness of the creator, so it is a way of saying "the one and only God".
Allah is the Arabic way of refering to a monotheistic God. Arab Christians and Jews refer to God as Allah when they speak Arabic because they are monotheistic. If we talk in another language, we (arabs) say God, not Allah because we are talking in a different language.
Allah is the arabic way to say God (in a monotheistic religion)
No. Allah is arabic for God, it sort of means Supreme God.
Allah is not a contraction between al and ilah, it doesn't work like that lol.
The capital G? The capital G doesn't mean anything lmao. Capitals don't exist in the arabic language.
Arab Christians are monothiestic? Lol okay then.
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"Allah" is NOT a name, God doesn't have a personal name, his 99 names describe him.
Allah is a contraction between "al" (the) and "ilah" (God)
al-ilah doesnt cut it since it means "the god", your are refereeing to one of many gods.
Allah mean "the God", the capital G infers the oneness of the creator, so it is a way of saying "the one and only God".
Allah is the Arabic way of refering to a monotheistic God. Arab Christians and Jews refer to God as Allah when they speak Arabic because they are monotheistic. If we talk in another language, we (arabs) say God, not Allah because we are talking in a different language.
Allah is the arabic way to say God (in a monotheistic religion)
No. Allah is arabic for God, it sort of means Supreme God.
Allah is not a contraction between al and ilah, it doesn't work like that lol.
The capital G? The capital G doesn't mean anything lmao. Capitals don't exist in the arabic language.
Arab Christians are monothiestic? Lol okay then.
It'd be weird going "Alilah"
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"Allah" is NOT a name, God doesn't have a personal name, his 99 names describe him.
Allah is a contraction between "al" (the) and "ilah" (God)
al-ilah doesnt cut it since it means "the god", your are refereeing to one of many gods.
Allah mean "the God", the capital G infers the oneness of the creator, so it is a way of saying "the one and only God".
Allah is the Arabic way of refering to a monotheistic God. Arab Christians and Jews refer to God as Allah when they speak Arabic because they are monotheistic. If we talk in another language, we (arabs) say God, not Allah because we are talking in a different language.
Allah is the arabic way to say God (in a monotheistic religion)
No. Allah is arabic for God, it sort of means Supreme God.
Allah is not a contraction between al and ilah, it doesn't work like that lol.
The capital G? The capital G doesn't mean anything lmao. Capitals don't exist in the arabic language.
Arab Christians are monothiestic? Lol okay then.
It'd be weird going "Alilah"
I know, that's because Allah is not Al-ilah joined up, lol
I can find so many words in the arabic language and join them up and say they mean the same thing, even though they are two different words, it just doesn't work like that
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I believe you have misunderstood me
what i meant was that allah IS a contraction between those to terms, it is NOT personal name, however, because Alilah means "the god" and could be refering to one in many gods, people took out the "ee" sound and made it Allah, to refer to the supreme God. thants why arabs say god when the speak english not Allah, because its not a persoanl name for god.
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I believe you have misunderstood me
what i meant was that allah IS a contraction between those to terms, it is NOT personal name, however, because Alilah means "the god" and could be refering to one in many gods, people took out the "ee" sound and made it Allah, to refer to the supreme God. thants why arabs say god when the speak english not Allah, because its not a persoanl name for god.
People took the 'ee' sound and made it Allah? What crap are you talking about?
Every muslim says Allah in reference to the creator, but the non muslims use God in reference to the creator.
No-one took any sounds out, the arabic language doesn't work like that. You sound like the Christian pagans who think they understand hebrew and say Allah means curse, just because Ollah means curse in hebrew, it doesn't work like that.
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Allah is the arabic word for the monotheistic God, usually refers to the supreme deity. If only muslims say allah, then how come arab christians and jews say allah.
If you talk in english say God, if french, say Dieu, if arabic, say allah.
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Allah is the arabic word for the monotheistic God, usually refers to the supreme deity. If only muslims say allah, then how come arab christians and jews say allah.
If you talk in english say God, if french, say Dieu, if arabic, say allah.
I never said only muslims says Allah.
If i talk in english, I say Allah.
Just don't say nonsense about how it used to be Al-ilah and people removed the ee sound, it just sounds silly.
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people didnt just remove the "ee" sound, it came with the development of the language, i dont knownthe english term for it, but in arabic its called thigal, we remove a very abnormal sounding sound, or a very strong one, from a word. Alilah is still used to refer to a deity, and could be, but not nessearrly a god, it is sometimes used to refer to one in many gods, but doesnt have to. Allah is just used to refer the supreme God. so the proper translation of Allah would be "The one and only God". When I speak english I say God, when i speak arabic (Im an arab), i say allah. I dont know why some non arabs refer to God as allah when they speak in different languages.
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people didnt just remove the "ee" sound, it came with the development of the language, i dont knownthe english term for it, but in arabic its called thigal, we remove a very abnormal sounding sound, or a very strong one, from a word. Alilah is still used to refer to a deity, and could be, but not nessearrly a god, it is sometimes used to refer to one in many gods, but doesnt have to. Allah is just used to refer the supreme God. so the proper translation of Allah would be "The one and only God". When I speak english I say God, when i speak arabic (Im an arab), i say allah. I dont know why some non arabs refer to God as allah when they speak in different languages.
Because the primary language for muslims is Arabic, lol...
We are required to recite the Qur'an in arabic during Salaah etc.
And according to islam, anyone who can read and recite the Qur'an in Arabic is a Arab.
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And according to islam, anyone who can read and recite the Qur'an in Arabic is a Arab.
NO!!!!!!!! where did you hear that.
an Arab is someone who traces his origin to the Arab tribes of the Arabian peninsula and Syrian peninsula. Arabic is used ONLY in salat and recitation of the quran because it is not to change its meaning, and to keep its true meaning alive and not corrupted through translation.
Remember:
"an arab is not superior to a non-arab, nor a non-arab to an arab, nor a black to a whote, nor a white to a black, excet by piety and good action"
-prophet muhammad in his final sermon
acording to musnad ibn hanbal
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No, there is a Da`if Hadith which says being an Arab is in the tongue, meaning an Arab is one who knows Arabic.
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A Da'if hadith.
Daif=weak
even the best scholars say that no ruling could come from a weak hadith.
Is that hadith even attributed to the prophet? So hadith, such as some from muwatta malik are not, or was it just some scholar. I know MANY hadith that prophibit chess but none f them are attributed to the prophet, they say that malik said that chess is forbidden
Islam DOESN'T distinguish between race, and arabs are a race ramzi.
Your an arab ramzi because you trace your origin to an arab tribe, not because your muslim or speak arabic.
being an arab means you trace your origins to the arabic tribes of the arabian peninsula and the syrian desert.
Remember what the prophet said in his final sermon.
His companions were called:
Salman al farisi (the Persian) persian=/=arab
Bilal al habashi (the Abyssinian) Abbysinian =/= arab
they were called by those names, because the companions recognised they were not arabs
They were not called arabs because they were NOT arabs.
You could be mistaken the hadith to a statement of a scholar, and nonetheless it is a weak hadith.
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Actually none of us are originally Arabs. The original Arabs are `Ad and Thamud only. The rest became Arabs later on. You can look it up. Anyway, you have a point.
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We are all Arabs, me and you since youre palestinian-lebanese and im saudi.
Arabs are from Ishmael, decendence of ishmael became the arabs tribes, the tribes of aad and thamud are called perished arabs because they were extinct, although they did live in the same land, they are a different group, . we never BECAME arabs, you cannot "become" an arab, either you are born arab or not, not anyway is better than another.
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Check this out brother. http://www.salaam.co.uk/themeofthemonth/february02_index.php?l=4
Check the part about Prophet Ismael (may Almighty Allah bless him and grant him peace).
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it does admit that the arabs are decended from ishmael. the "original arabs" or more likely translated into "perished arabs"are extinct, the tribes aad and thamud were wiped out. the Ishmaelites settled in the arabian peninsula, where the "perished arabs" have lived before, and made up the tribes.
remember, since the perished arabs were wiped our, (see the story of hud and salih), all arab tribes were decended from ishmael.
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Peace
Osama, you didnt post a link
the ancient, "perished" or "lost" arabs are extinct, they were not decended from ishmael, but they were extinct acording to the story of hud and salih.
the modern arabs are descended from qahtan and adnan, who were related to Ishmael.
i know Islam is the truth, why did you mention it?
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Peace
Osama, you didnt post a link
the ancient, "perished" or "lost" arabs are extinct, they were not decended from ishmael, but they were extinct acording to the story of hud and salih.
the modern arabs are descended from qahtan and adnan, who were related to Ishmael.
i know Islam is the truth, why did you mention it?
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,
"Obama Abdullah" was the funny kid 'There is only one God'. I banned him and changed his name back to 'There is only one God'. LOL... Obama Abdullah :). I liked that.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Is "the one and only God" Banned?
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Is "the one and only God" Banned?
Yes.
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o...i thought you just changed his name.
he was very fun though, in a good way, i liked him.
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He made some good posts...he's not permanently banned right?
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,
Ok, Mr. Obama had been unbanned. Just please, 'There is only one God', don't use 'Obama Abdullah' again. And don't use foul words.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Al-Hamdulillah he's back! :D
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He made some good posts...he's not permanently banned right?
Sorry, perm banned.