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Title: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 05, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
Assalam alikum I was reading the quran and I was wondering will we be all white in heaven and look the same and will the houris be all white won't there be black people in heaven because the quran says fair houris so some say they will be white so can't we have black houris and can't we stay the same coulor black and white or choose to be black or white does it mean we will all be white and no one will be black that there will be no black skin in heaven I'm not being disrespectful I was just wondering when I was reading the quran jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 05, 2017, 11:29:06 PM
And will we all look the accatly the same like clones
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Syedsamad on May 06, 2017, 12:59:30 AM
Fair and transparent our souls will go to Hannah not our body no concept of black and white there
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 06, 2017, 01:22:32 AM
So won't we have a physical experience in Jannah?
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 06, 2017, 03:27:07 AM
Fair and transparent our souls will go to Hannah not our body no concept of black and white there

Not true at all, this belief is against both quran and prophet's hadith... of course we will be body and soul in paradise, if you dont believe this then you dont believe in the quran
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 06, 2017, 03:28:41 AM
So won't we have a physical experience in Jannah?

Yes we will according to quran and hadith. I have already shown how that will happen, how God will ressurect our bodies from bones in graves
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Syedsamad on May 06, 2017, 03:29:34 AM
Well as far as I know ,no it will all be spritual everything thing will be eternal no concept of tall,short,handsome,ugly  or any thing like that will be there we will get spouses (no no. 72 because Hadith is more like false)
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Syedsamad on May 06, 2017, 03:31:03 AM
Seriously !!! Bro partial knowledge is bad our bodies will be reconstructed for the judgement day !!!
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Syedsamad on May 06, 2017, 03:35:11 AM
BTW no need to argue as Allah says in Quran we have been given very limited knowledge so nobody knows all we can do is interpret and guess

Peace,
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 06, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
Well as far as I know ,no it will all be spritual everything thing will be eternal no concept of tall,short,handsome,ugly  or any thing like that will be there we will get spouses (no no. 72 because Hadith is more like false)

not true

evidence:

Qur'an:
75:3-4
Does man think We shall not put his bones back together?
In fact, We can reshape his very fingertips.


Hadith:
Narrated Al--Amash: Abu Huraira said, "Allah's Apostle said, 'Between the two sounds of the trumpet, there will be forty." Somebody asked Abu Huraira, "Forty days?" But he refused to reply. Then he asked, "Forty months?" He refused to reply. Then he asked, "Forty years?" Again, he refused to reply. Abu Huraira added. "Then (after this period) Allah will send water from the sky and then the dead bodies will grow like vegetation grows, There is nothing of the human body that does not decay except one bone; that is the little bone at the end of the coccyx of which the human body will be recreated on the Day of Resurrection." (See Hadith No. 338) (Book #60, Hadith #457)
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 06, 2017, 10:36:30 AM
Also the quran says we will have noor light the believers so some say that we will be all white but surely a black person can have light but still be black and can't you have a black houri if you want that or stay black or choose to be black if you want to in heaven and still have light like the moon that is dark but still glows etc jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 06, 2017, 10:41:12 AM
Or maybe the glowing is for judgement day then as soon as we go to jannah we are not glowing like the sun but just look good and still be black or white or what ever we choose to be black or white are choice etc to be black or white jazzakallah because surly we won't can't look all actully the same in heaven like clones etc jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 06, 2017, 10:42:26 AM
Because that would be horrible all looking actully the same like clones and robots etc etc jazzakallah 
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Syedsamad on May 06, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
Well as far as I know ,no it will all be spritual everything thing will be eternal no concept of tall,short,handsome,ugly  or any thing like that will be there we will get spouses (no no. 72 because Hadith is more like false)

not true

evidence:

Qur'an:
75:3-4
Does man think We shall not put his bones back together?
In fact, We can reshape his very fingertips.


Hadith:
Narrated Al--Amash: Abu Huraira said, "Allah's Apostle said, 'Between the two sounds of the trumpet, there will be forty." Somebody asked Abu Huraira, "Forty days?" But he refused to reply. Then he asked, "Forty months?" He refused to reply. Then he asked, "Forty years?" Again, he refused to reply. Abu Huraira added. "Then (after this period) Allah will send water from the sky and then the dead bodies will grow like vegetation grows, There is nothing of the human body that does not decay except one bone; that is the little bone at the end of the coccyx of which the human body will be recreated on the Day of Resurrection." (See Hadith No. 338) (Book #60, Hadith #457)

For the judgement day isn't it....
Where.does the whole verse talk about jannah ?
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 06, 2017, 11:49:20 AM
And people say that angles are white because there pure and pure means white so they use this as well that if angles are whire then we all will be white jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 06, 2017, 03:27:49 PM
Because that would be horrible all looking actully the same like clones and robots etc etc jazzakallah

where do you get this from??? who says we will look same, no one said this.

Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 06, 2017, 03:33:50 PM
For the judgement day isn't it....
Where.does the whole verse talk about jannah ?

this shows to me that your dont know anything about Islamic aqidah(belief system)

People go to paradise or hell on Judgment day, what kind of logic is this to be ressurected as body and soul, and then you are only soul in paradise, what kind of logic is thisman??? i just dont understand how you think...

God speaking about paradise in the Quran:
18:31 they will have Gardens of lasting bliss graced with flowing streams. There they will be adorned with bracelets of gold. There they will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade. There they will be comfortably seated on soft chairs. What a blessed reward! What a pleasant resting place!

when you read this, does this sound like spiritual life to you or materialistic like we are body and soul right now on the earth.

There they will be adorned with bracelets of gold.

can you imagine souls being adorned with materialistic stuff?

There they will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade.

can you imagine souls having clothes??? no, this clearly shows it is body and soul in the paradise.

There they will be comfortably seated on soft chairs.

do souls sit on materialistic chair?
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 06, 2017, 03:35:28 PM
And people say that angles are white because there pure and pure means white so they use this as well that if angles are whire then we all will be white jazzakallah

no wrong, nobody says we all be white skin in paradise.

actually you willl be able to change color of your skins as you wish.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Albarra on May 06, 2017, 03:54:16 PM
I would like  to change my brown skin to blue in Jannah. LOL!
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 06, 2017, 05:57:36 PM
Ok thanks jazzakallah so we will be able to stay the same coulor or change it if we sow wished and if we wanted a black houri then we can have that if we want then is that right jazzakallah bit what about when they say we will be radiot like the moon doesn't hat mean will be all white jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 08, 2017, 02:29:50 AM
Ok thanks jazzakallah so we will be able to stay the same coulor or change it if we sow wished and if we wanted a black houri then we can have that if we want then is that right jazzakallah bit what about when they say we will be radiot like the moon doesn't hat mean will be all white jazzakallah

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if we wanted a black houri then we can have that

yes, you only wish in paradise and your get what you wish...that is paradise...fullfilling your wishes.

or maybe if you wish Asian looking houris...something like this
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/13ztjxs.jpg)

your get what you wish ;)

43:71 Golden platters and goblets will be passed around, and everything the heart desires and pleases the eye will be there, where you will abide for ever.


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bit what about when they say we will be radiot like the moon doesn't hat mean will be all white jazzakallah

no it does not mean, it mean only that light will emitt from the part of the body, specially parts where washing is done Before prayer, those part will glow on judgement day.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 09, 2017, 04:43:29 AM
Thanks but it says are faces will glow because we washed it so doesn't that mean we will be all white sorry to keep bothering you jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 09, 2017, 10:21:19 AM
Thanks but it says are faces will glow because we washed it so doesn't that mean we will be all white sorry to keep bothering you jazzakallah


No it does not mean white like white skin, it means glow, like some kind of lamp...and disbelievers will ask believers to enlight the way on the darkness of judment day.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 09, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
1.Ok so we could have just a very glowing black face like the moon because it glows but you still see the dark bits but there still glowing the dark bits like light is that correct 2. and is it possible that is only for judgement day and when we enter heaven were not glowing like we needed too on judgement day because we had too is that possible also

So is 1. Correct and 2. Possible jazzakallah and thanks
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 09, 2017, 04:04:48 PM
1.Ok so we could have just a very glowing black face like the moon because it glows but you still see the dark bits but there still glowing the dark bits like light is that correct 2. and is it possible that is only for judgement day and when we enter heaven were not glowing like we needed too on judgement day because we had too is that possible also

So is 1. Correct and 2. Possible jazzakallah and thanks

1. Yes

2.yes, glowing part of the body will be honor for those who posses it , they will be proud of it, beacuse disbelievers will not have this caracteristic. So yes there will be situation black people glowing on judgement day while most disbelievers white face have darkened faces, caracteristic of disbelievers on judgement day is dark face even though they are white people
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 09, 2017, 08:15:50 PM
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Here is what the Glorious Quran says regarding the white faces and black faces in the Hereafter:

‏3:106 يوم تبيض وجوه وتسود وجوه فاما الذين اسودت وجوههم اكفرتم بعد ايمانكم فذوقوا العذاب بما كنتم تكفرون
‏3:107 واما الذين ابيضت وجوههم ففي رحمة الله هم فيها خالدون

[003:106] On the day when some faces shall be white تبيض, and some faces shall be black اسودت. As for those whose faces will be black, it will be said to them:`Did you disbelieve after believing ? Taste then the punishment because you disbelieved.'

[003:107] And as for those whose faces will be white ابيضت, they will be in the mercy of ALLAH; therein will they abide.

اسود means black
ابيض means white


https://www.google.com/#q=%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF+in+english
https://www.google.com/#q=%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B6+in+english




Black or White on earth is irrelevant:

Whether you are black or white here on earth is completely irrelevant here.  Allah Almighty spoke about the Day of Resurrection and not life here on earth.  And everything we have and we face here on earth is a trial from Allah Almighty to us.  Allah Almighty chose me to be:

1-  Male
2-  Arab
3-  Muslim
4-  Caucasian
5-  5'10 in height
6-  No genetic problems (walhamdulillah)
7-  Not rich and not poor.
8-  Made me the owner of www.answering-christianity.com and www.HeTube.com and many other domains.
9-  Etc...

The slot that Allah Almighty chooses you to be in on earth is a trial for you.  You either pass the challenge or fail it. 



Also at resurrection, the doomed-to-Hell infidels will be raised blnd:

[020:125] He shall say, “Lord, why did You raise me blind? I used to be endowed with eyesight?”

[017:072] The one who (refuses to see, and so) does not see in this life, will be blind in the afterlife; he shall be farther away from the way.


In Hell, people will have their skins constantly re-made (recreated):

[004:056] Those who disbelieve in Our Signs, We shall soon cause them to enter Fire. As often as their skins are burnt up, WE shall give them in exchange other skins that they may continue to taste the punishment. Surely, ALLAH is Mighty and Wise.


So if a person of Hell ends up getting removed from Hell and taken to Heaven, his skin will be replaced with a Heavenly one.  And Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said that among the qualities of the bodies and skins of the people of Paradise is that their natural odor will be made of Heavenly scents:

www.google.com/#q=people+of+Jannah+heavenly+scent

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 09, 2017, 08:35:44 PM
It is also important to remember that the Dabat ul ard will change people's faces to black or while depending upon the person's deeds and faith.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 09, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
It is also important to remember that the Dabat ul ard will change people's faces to black or while depending upon the person's deeds and faith.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Adil,

The dabba (beast) will only communicate with people, and this is shortly before Day of Judgment:

‏27:82 واذا وقع القول عليهم اخرجنا لهم دابة من الارض تكلمهم ان الناس كانوا باياتنا لايوقنون

[027:082] And when the word is fulfilled concerning them, We shall bring forth a beast of the earth دابة من الارض to speak unto them because mankind had not faith in Our revelations.


Some interpret this to be the computers of today, since they are able to communicate well with us and even teach us.  Only Allah Almighty Knows what this beast is.  But no where in the Quran does it say that the beast will change our faces to black or white.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 09, 2017, 08:54:13 PM
Hmm interesting I will look into it. The thing is I heard many muftis and other scholars mention the Dabba as to come before the end time to turn people face white or dark depending on their deed. In regards to him talking to the people I wish there was more mentions to make it clear, but I will look into it when I have time.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 09, 2017, 09:05:54 PM
As'salamu Alaikum my dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

I can not avoid thinking about Noble Verses 74:31 and 74:36 when thinking about the promised beast that will speak to us:

[074:030]  Over it are Nineteen عليها تسعة عشر.
   
[074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; AND WE HAVE FIXED THEIR NUMBER ONLY وماجعلنا عدتهم الا as (1) a trial for Unbelievers,- (2) in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, (3) and the Believers may increase in Faith,- (4) and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, (5) and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces soldiers جنود of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.
   
[074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,
[074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,
[074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-
[074:035]  This is but one of the MIGHTY ONES (Miracles) انها لاحدى الكبر.
[074:036] A warning to mankind,-
[074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-




Soldiers, Computers, 19 Miracle, Beast:

We know very well that the number 19 Miracle (ONE OF THE GREATEST ONES) would not have been discovered without the computers:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm

And Allah Almighty spoke about HIS SOLDIERS that no one knows them except Him, the Almighty.  And we know that the beast will speak to us to teach us.  Could it be that the beast is indeed the computer age that we're in today?

I mean isn't the internet itself a teacher for us?  Are we not all right now communicating and learning from each other through this website, for example?



"We will show them" Divine Promise:

Allah Almighty Said:

"We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and INSIDE THEIR SELVES, until it will become quite clear to them that it (the Quran) is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things?  (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"

And Allah Almighty spoke about us will penetrate space (the universe):

www.answering-christianity.com/precise_prophecy_about_traveling_up_to_space_in_noble_quran.wmv  (by Sheikh Yusuf Estes)
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Could our advanced technology and electronics equipment of today be the BEAST FROM THE EARTH that Allah Almighty spoke about?  This is just my humble opinion.  And only Allah Almighty Knows best.





ان الناس كانوا باياتنا لايوقنون:

Notice again in Noble Verse 27:82 above:

".....because mankind had not faith in Our revelations ان الناس كانوا باياتنا لايوقنون."

Two things to notice here:

1-  It is referring to all of MANKIND and not just Muslims.

2-  Allah Almighty used the Noble Word يوقنون YUQINOON.  The same Noble Word used in Noble Verse 74:31 above about the people of the Book YASTAYQINA "....in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty..."

Both YUQINOON and YASTAYQINA are derived from YAQEEN, which means certain in knowledge or know very well for sure.  Like you know your name YAQEEN (for sure).

I find the same Noble Word being used in Noble Verses 27:82 and 74:31 to be quite interesting.  But again, only Allah Almighty Alone Knows who and what the promised BEAST is.  This is only a theory.  And again, don't forget that Allah Almighty called all of this about the number 19 Miracle:




"ONE OF THE GREASTEST MIRACLES".

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 03:32:17 AM
Assalam alikum Osama so from your point of view we will all have white skin in heaven that there won't be any black skin in heaven that we can't be black or Asian and that we can't have a black houri or Asian houri is that what you are saying or do you agree with adria 123 above that we can and we can stay black etc jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 03:44:48 AM
And if yes too the all being white so then doesn't that mean we will all look accutly the same like white clones mannequins
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 03:46:45 AM
Because like I said the moon is very bright but with bright black bits so can't the verses just mean bright
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: submit on May 10, 2017, 03:50:18 AM
the components of paradise will be something of different nature to that of current earth.
The creations inhabitants of paradise will not appear having the physicals traits of human beings of earth anymore.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 03:52:12 AM
Ok but we will still look humans thow so And 2. Will we be able too look like what we want like can we still have beards in heaven if we what too or not jazzakallah or won't we be allowed to have beards in heaven that we cant
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 03:58:03 AM
Also maybe it is only the faces a not not the whole body maybe
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 06:07:46 AM
Also we would have physical bodies so are bodies will be different but similar jazzakallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 10, 2017, 07:51:56 AM
Why are you asking about Asians here??  I already gave you what Allah Almighty told us in the Glorious Quran.  Beyond that, it belongs to the world of the unseen. We simply do not know:

[017:085]  They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"

Any guessing would be conjecture.  And like brother Submit said above:

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the components of paradise will be something of different nature to that of current earth.
The creations inhabitants of paradise will not appear having the physicals traits of human beings of earth anymore.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 10, 2017, 09:33:10 AM
Ok but we will still look humans thow so And 2. Will we be able too look like what we want like can we still have beards in heaven if we what too or not jazzakallah or won't we be allowed to have beards in heaven that we cant


People will look like human, only that they will be higher, look more beatiful and there will no beards in paradise. According to hadith from prophet muhamad.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Dawud on May 10, 2017, 09:38:11 AM
Also we would have physical bodies so are bodies will be different but similar jazzakallah

Bodies will be perfect in paradise with no weknessses.

Young, heatlhy, strong, big desires, beatiful, sexy, no bad smells, no urine nor waste after eating food.

Total perfection wich cant be improved anymore.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 10, 2017, 02:13:35 PM
And we will be like our father Adam, 90 feet tall in height, and their sweat (odor) would smell like Heaven's musk.  This is what Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said:

www.answering-christianity.com/adam_90_feet_tall.htm
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: pascoe on May 10, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
Ok thanks this might sound weird but can you delete my account please there is nothing wrong it's just that I'm not going to be using the Internet for a very long time because off money problems so I'm not going to be using this again jazzakallah but thanks
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 10, 2017, 06:01:41 PM
Why? Did the infidels' dumpster that you draw your knowledge from run out of arguments?  Denied.  You can get the hell out of here as you want.  But I will not mess up the board by deleting threads.

Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Albarra on May 10, 2017, 10:18:17 PM
Ok thanks this might sound weird but can you delete my account please there is nothing wrong it's just that I'm not going to be using the Internet for a very long time because off money problems so I'm not going to be using this again jazzakallah but thanks

Are you poor?
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 10, 2017, 10:23:31 PM
Dear brother Albarra, this website is free akhi.  Having internet connection or not has nothing to do with this website.
Title: Re: jannah
Post by: Albarra on May 10, 2017, 11:09:29 PM
Dear brother Albarra, this website is free akhi.  Having internet connection or not has nothing to do with this website.

As-salamu alaikum brother Osama,

Of course this website is 100% free, but internet connection is not free unless I go to coffee shop to get free wifi. LOL!

Dear brother pascoe, if you cannot afford to pay internet connection, then go to coffee shop or downtown to connect free wifi. 
You don't need brother Osama to delete your account. You might come back in the future, Insha'Allah.


Peace,
Albarra