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Title: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 19, 2018, 07:44:26 PM
Selamu aleykum brothers and sisters, i dont know why but the fact that stephen hawking doesnt believe makes me really weak due to him being The expert in his topic, being the world best physicists it annoys me that he didnt believe i mean he knew alot and yet him not believing..
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 20, 2018, 12:26:42 AM
Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Stephen Hawking and all humans combined with him know little to nothing:

"They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"  (The Noble Quran, 17:85)"

Visit the Scientific and Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran section:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
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Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 20, 2018, 03:30:20 AM
Thats true brother but his famous statement with gravity makes me really insecure
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: AhmadFarooq on March 20, 2018, 05:15:01 AM
Should a medical professional's conclusions be directly acceptable when it comes to fields related to material engineering? Usually no; the professional might be completely correct but due to the fact that they haven't studied engineering and is not a scholar in this area, their statements will be met with extreme scepticism and only after reviewing all the evidence and arguments provided in support for that particular conclusion, would the professional's conclusions be potentially in a position to be accepted. Most wouldn't bother with such, and simply ignore whatever the medical professional would have to say on the matter.

In the same way, since (as far as I know) Stephen Hawking was not an expert on religions, his arguments against God's existence should be individually reviewed instead of simply being directly accepted. Only then can a person be logically in a position to conclude whether the late physicist was absolutely correct or completely mistaken.
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Sama on March 20, 2018, 07:09:28 AM
Who made the gravity? Who put the gravity as a property in matter?

Can you answer this simple question ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlTxpFbH4

 All the evidence points to a beginning. And if there is a beginning, then the question of what caused the universe to come into being needs to be answered.

Science cannot answer this question because science trades on material causes, and you can’t have a material cause before the origin of material reality itself. Whatever caused the universe to come into being must be immaterial, timeless, non-spatial, powerful, and intelligent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVqIdBsMUhs

Laws of nature don't create itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIFlAMaCsE

The problem of Hawking (Turn on subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHIgk-eb3no
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: submit on March 23, 2018, 09:45:10 AM
they believe that everything before the beginning was unstable physics law, after big bang everything turns stable following proper physics law. no need of a Creator to be involved.
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 23, 2018, 10:05:01 AM
Wait a min i looked at your posts and i dont get if youre a muslim or a atheist?
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 23, 2018, 10:14:30 AM
they believe that everything before the beginning was unstable physics law, after big bang everything turns stable following proper physics law. no need of a Creator to be involved.

Can anyone respond to this?
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Albarra on March 23, 2018, 11:50:54 AM
they believe that everything before the beginning was unstable physics law, after big bang everything turns stable following proper physics law. no need of a Creator to be involved.

Can anyone respond to this?

He is a Muslim friend.
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 23, 2018, 12:55:46 PM
Oh ok, the last sentence irritated me. Could someone still maybe respond to him?:( it really made me get doubts
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: Sama on March 23, 2018, 02:13:11 PM
they believe that everything before the beginning was unstable physics law, after big bang everything turns stable following proper physics law. no need of a Creator to be involved.
Non Sequitur
Whether their view is true or not is irrelevant to the conclusion.
When the conclusion does not follow from the premises.

(I can say: The creator made the laws stable).
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: swer on March 25, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
Should a medical professional's conclusions be directly acceptable when it comes to fields related to material engineering? Usually no; the professional might be completely correct but due to the fact that they haven't studied engineering and is not a scholar in this area, their statements will be met with extreme scepticism and only after reviewing all the evidence and arguments provided in support for that particular conclusion, would the professional's conclusions be potentially in a position to be accepted. Most wouldn't bother with such, and simply ignore whatever the medical professional would have to say on the matter.

In the same way, since (as far as I know) Stephen Hawking was not an expert on religions, his arguments against God's existence should be individually reviewed instead of simply being directly accepted. Only then can a person be logically in a position to conclude whether the late physicist was absolutely correct or completely mistaken.
I think so too. why is the opinion of the physicist important?
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: AmrRajab on March 27, 2018, 06:14:01 AM
Well because he is the best in a subject which has to do with the universe, the creation lf ALLAH
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: swer on March 28, 2018, 08:18:25 AM
Well because he is the best in a subject which has to do with the universe, the creation lf ALLAH
he is only a man
Title: Re: Stephen hawking and god
Post by: AmrRajab on March 28, 2018, 09:00:13 AM
Of course but i get why shes worried i also have this since 6 months