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Asalamualakum thought i would share this

this is 1 good reason i think why a rational person should choose the Quran . This is only refering to a person who believes in 1 God and is searching for a religion.

U have all the world scriptures Bible, Quran, Hindu books, Sikh books, Buddhist books, Avesta,(Zoroastrianism) etc

Simple reason why accept Quran and reject the rest is because...

THE QURAN GIVES YOU RATIONAL REASONS WHY TO ACCEPT IT NO OTHER BOOK DOES THAT !.

The Quran REASONS WITH THE READER gives arguments

1.Why God exists (guidance for atheists reasoning with atheists)

2. Why he is 1 ( reasoning with Hindus, Buddhists, and other idol worshippers providing guidance)

3. Why he is not like his creation

4, Arguments for the afterlife e.g the resurrection rational arguments for the resurrection

5. Arguments why the Prophet pbuh is a true prophet

6.Arguments why the book itself is from God

7. Arguments showing Jesus is not son of God and not God (guidance for Christians)

the list can go on and on

point is Quran REASONS WITH THE READER PROVIDES RATIONAL ARGUMENTS WHY U SHOULD BELIEVE IN IT why u should accept Islam


now my Question to the non muslims would be so u have ALL these scriptures all claim 2 be from God but only 1 out of them ALL give REASONS WHY 2 ACCEPT IT . So which book would u expect to be from God a book which gives u reasons to accept it or a book which doesnt give u any reason to accept it. Do u really think God will author a book and not give a single reason to accept it.

The only way 2 disprove my point is 2 show other religious books reason with the reader and provide arguments why 2 accept it .As far as i know i cant find any. Bible is just a collection from many authors so are Hindu n Sikh scripture. Thats why most religions are not missionary religions dont command to preach

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Asalamu alaykum,

They say that all the surahs initialed with A.L.M have a total occurance of the three letters taken together that is a multiple of 19. The same goes for the other initialed surahs e.g ya-seen, ha-meem etc.

http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/miracle_of_the_quran_(P1313).html

How can we know that this is legitimate? For example, isnt the Alif a vowel, therefore its not compulsory to write it, therefore how can you still count all of the Alif-Lam-Meem letters together?


Its hard 2 count alifs


i can show u other e.gs of 19

28.   NOW TO THE VERSE OF THE 19 :
NOTICE HOW MANY LETTERS AND WRITE IT DOWN IN THE SAME ORDER:
 
عليهــا    تسعــة   عشــر
3         4         5
AND WE FIND THE AMAZING NUMBER   345
FROM THE QURAN :
74:30 عَلَيْهَا تِسْعَةَ عَشَرَ
Over it are Nineteen.
IN THIS VERSE WE HAVE THE NUMBER 19 WITH THE NUMBER 345 
19 X 345 = 6555     AND IT IS THE SUM OF THE NUMBERS FROM 1 TO 114  ( THE CHAPTERS IN THE QURAN)







26.   Count how many words from beginning of verse of chapter 27 to the extra bismillah 361 words 19 x19.


Chapter 9 has missing bismillah. It has 129 verses write 1234567.....127128129/19. Over 300 digit number divisible by 19 no remainder.



What this new finding uncovers is a new encoding system based on prime numbers that protects The Message to be used to decode whatever Allah allows us of the Holy Quran and Allah guides those who seek His help.
The number of letters in each Key verse (surah fatiha) are 19, 17, 12, 11, 19, 18, and 43.
While 19, 17, 11, 19 and 43 are primes, 12 and 18 are not. However, both can combine with their left or right neighbours to produce new primes as follows:
17+12 = 29      12+11 = 23
19+18 = 37      18+43 = 61
It was therefore suggested that paired verses are meant to complete each other’s meaning as verses 2 & 3 and 6 & 7 do.
Arranging the number of letters in each Key verse right-to-left gives a number that only divides by 19 as follows:
          43181911121719    =       19 * 2272732164301
Quran 74:30 “Over it nineteen” or “عليها تسعة عشر“

and much more




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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Simple proof Islam is true
« on: March 22, 2016, 12:05:54 PM »
Asalamualakum here im just speaking from the perspecitive of those who believe in God and believe God has inspired a religion now the q is which 1

this is a criteria to prove a religion is from God

SO If God inspired a religion that religion should SEEK converts to the faith. Like think about it If God inspired a religion and says dont convert any1 forget it whats the point choosing a religion if its not for every1 so its not universal and we know Gods religion is universal.


Judaism=Born Jew
Zoroastrianism=Born into faith

Hinduism=even though u can convert it doesnt seek converts infact most Hindus say u cant convert.So even if u could convert the scriptures dont tell the followers to warn mankind so we can conclude Hinduism doesn't seek converts.

Sikhism- Another Indian religion tht doesnt seek converts to the faith even though u can convert to it.

Buddhism- No where in Buddhist scriptures does the religion say convert people to Buddhism infact Buddhists r agnostics so they should be included in the list if a religion is from God.

Shintoism -Pagan religion worships many Gods not universal doesnt seek converts to faith aswell.

Only left with Islam and Christianity


Now we can use another criteria
Scripture should not be changed
Bible has Quran has been preserved
therefore if a religion is from God u are left with Islam or nothing
U Choose!

so thts a simple proof 

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This is most likely my last question. I never wanted to be caught up with these things. This ruined my vacation and my studies to be honest. I could have done many things, but I was worrying about some stupid things and the shaytan always came to me and kept on telling me to open up anyi-islamic sites. I never wanted any of this. So I am going to ask my last question. Some people have claimed that they refuted the "universe is expanding mircale" in the Quran. Can you refute that? http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/02/quran-and-expansion-of-universe.html?m=1

 Also, visit my earlier post regarding Imam mahdi and the anti-christ. That is all I ask.

 First,I would like to thank Allah (SWT) and after that the Answering christianity team and the people on this blog (ThatMuslimGuy and Ahmed Farooq especially) for restoring my faith. Who knows I might have became an apostate if I hadn't seen this website.


woww i was u like 4 years ago exactly like u asking questions going on anti islamic sites  i had doubts now alhamdulilah im  a strong Muslim and i refute the claims of non muslims. Dont go to them sites its a waste of time thts wht i did but i got all the answers

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Wikislam quote "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are stern against the unbelievers, merciful among themselves.

Surah Al-Fath 48:29

In the original Arabic, there is a shadda above the letter fa which indicates emphasis, meaning the word is more properly translated as “aggressive unbelievers” (kuffar) and not simply “unbelievers” (kafirin). This distinction is made clearer just a few verses earlier in the surah. Allah says:

هُمُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَصَدُّوكُمْ عَنِ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَالْهَدْيَ مَعْكُوفًا أَن يَبْلُغَ مَحِلَّهُ

They are the ones who disbelieved and obstructed you from the Sacred Mosque while the offering was prevented from reaching its place of sacrifice.

Surah Al-Fath 48:25

This distinction is made elsewhere in the Quran. Allah says:

الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَصَدُّوا عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ أَضَلَّ أَعْمَالَهُمْ

Those who disbelieve and prevent people from the way of Allah – He will nullify their deeds.

Surah Muhammad 47:1




Those who are merciful will be shown mercy by the Merciful; be merciful to the people of the earth and the One above the heavens will have mercy upon you.

Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 4941, Grade: Sahih

the proof tht verse was specific is because the prophet wasnt harsh at the conquest of makkah wasnt harsh with the christians of najaran . Also when umar conquered Jerusalem was he harsh no when amir ibn as conquered Egypt was he harsh no. Tht proves the verse is specific not general. Lets understand tht verse the way the early companions  understood it not wikiislam .



In sha Allah 1 day il make a website n rebut every article on wikislam answering islam etc

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https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_Forbids_You_Not_(Qur'an_60:8)

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/If_Anyone_Slew_a_Person

I need a full proper refutation please. I feel scared I might leave my faith (Insha allah not!).


The first article is bogus.


He says "According to the tafsir and hadith, this verse was revealed in the context of Abu Bakr's daughter, who refused to let her mother in the house because she was a disbeliever. As Muslims often scream about context (usually when faced with the more violent qur'anic verses), some would say because it was revealed in the context of disbelieving mothers, then it only applies in that context.
"


theres verses in quran revealed talking about disblievers going hell. It was actually refering to certain disbelievers at the time does that mean its only for them NO. A verse can be  revealed in  a certain situation but be general. So for e.g  i say to u  be good to that man . Tht can be general also be good to all men.

Whats the proof its general the proof is after tht verse was revealved the prophet had good relations with the
1.Christians of najaran he was kind to them he let them pray in the mosq .
2. Conquest of mecca he was kind to them all he said to his enemies may God forgiv u
3.Quran says hes been sent as a mercy to the worlds so if hes sent as a mercy how can tht verse be only specific to tht.
4.The prophet said Allah will not be merciful to thsoe who are not merciful to MANKIND THT enough shows tht verse is general


Also,  i cnt find the hadith at the moment but ther was a verse revealved for a certain situation the man asked the prophet is it only refering to me  the prophet said all mankind. Also the verses of 4 wives was revealed in a certain situation but its general aswell. Like the verses of killing its a specific situation but it can be general aswell if a similar situation arises wer the enemy attacks.

5. Quran says we created mankind so they may get to knw

then1 another  the prophet recited this verse at the conquest of mecca aswell.



Then he quotes other verses of Quran about violence which has already been debunked . I can refute tht aswell


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https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_Forbids_You_Not_(Qur'an_60:8)

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/If_Anyone_Slew_a_Person

I need a full proper refutation please. I feel scared I might leave my faith (Insha allah not!).

http://calltotruth.weebly.com/misconceptions/rebuttal-to-wikiislam-if-anyone-slew-a-person

there was another article but cant find it .
Wikiislam basically say 5:32 refers to children of Israel but in response

1.If u want your book to be violent about killing u dont write verses condemning killing. Whether it be stories. Quran says stories are beneficial to us.

2. Prayer was ordained for children of Israel does tht mean its only for them not us

3. Uthman companion of Muhammad 3000 yrs later used 5:32 to prove killing is wrong which crushes the entire article because a sahaba even used it to prove killing is haram.

4.Quran says in other places do not kill a soul.

5. Hadiths say to MURDER  a human being is 1 of the greatest sins.

6. Hadith says if u kill a non muslim u wont smell paradise.

7.Quran says if enemy offers peace giv him peace imagine the 1 who is not your enemy.



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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: jesus false prophecisis
« on: March 16, 2016, 04:12:29 PM »
check my vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcFeoq11bvc


was jesus a false prophet Bible says YES

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They have destroyed many historical sites for e.g Khadijah ra house http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k6_news/april/28shame_on_saudhouse.htm


if we dont have these sites people will say islam is a myth u need historical sites

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: New Website!
« on: July 08, 2015, 09:25:32 PM »
Excellent website we need to make a list of all the websites on the internet refuting the haters

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What do we have left dating back 1400 yrs look Egyptians have pyramids pharaohs body ancient hylogrphics Greeks have their structures remaining and much more what do we have why dont we have that many historical sites

is this true Saudi Arabia are destroying islamic sites

and are historical sites important can we just rely on the narrations without sites its myths im i right?

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1. in Arabic word has multiple meanings like alaqah has 3 meanings all 3 is correct that is fine but if u had a word that had 4 meanings and 3 of them made sense if u translated it why would u choose the 1 that fits the scientific fact because a critic could argue that same word has other meanings why not translate like that
 
2. Isn't it subjective debatable some can say the verse meaning something else
 
3. Hamza Tzortis wrote an article on it have u seen it ? http://www.hamzatzor...a-new-approach/ he doesnt use it anymore obviously who is Hamza like just because he said it doesnt mean its true but he used to use it so confidently now hes stopped
 
4. Almost all the scientific facts have been mentioned before the Quran maybe few havent lets give an e.g Quran says embryo looks like a leech but no 1 mentioned it explicitly a leech but used another different word which still resembles a leech u see the point .
 
 
Now  what do u think of this point say the miracle is the word which suited the 7th century is still suitable to our century 1400 yrs later ? so the Quran is not outdated its no human book which human could use perfect word choice and yet its applicable at all times
 
 
 
and other points il mention them later


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Asalamualakum i was suprised their are non muslim sources about the meeting of Bahira and the prophet Muhammad pbuh

the book basically is saying how Bahira inspired the Quran

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ourney&f=false

page 57 -58

page 67 please read where Bahira says i taught Muhammad that he had been carried up to heaven i made him say to them i have ridden al buraq


i need a response to this like people could say Bahira taught the prophet astagfurillah then the prophet was memorising it over all them years untill age 40

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Asalamualakum i heard Saudi arabia have destroyed nearly everything dating back whats left ? like mount uhud cave hira anything else please name and send pictures and do they exist today

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First question why trust the hadiths seerah someone can say how do you know the companions made up the miracles and attributed it to the prophet to praise him so how can we prove everything is coming from trustworthy people  and there was a miracle in Quran about Iram Answering Islam have done  a response http://www.answering-islam.org/Hoaxes/iram.html how do you respond and the 3rd q can someone show me some irrefutable historical miracles of Quran but nothing to do with Egypt like pharaohs body, etc  like a historical miracle concerning another people or civilization

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