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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: muhammad and the jews
« on: August 04, 2013, 09:11:11 PM »
go [censored] yourself
You're the nobody that came onto our forum to try and lambast us over something your peanut brain cant even comprehend. So take your own advice and go censor yourself unless you can finally grow some and have a mature conversation without resorting to pathetic swearing. Dont waste anymore time on this fool Brother Black Muslim. As he honestly admits in his username. He's a simple guy. A simply stupid guy.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: muhammad and the jews
« on: August 04, 2013, 08:23:29 PM »
even to this day jews and christians aren't allowed in the cities of mecca or medina.
Why do jews and christians even care? Why is Makkah and Madinah so special to them?

the fact is what he did was racial profiling.  he punished an entire jewish tribe for the actions of a minority of it's members and here you muslims in the west  whine about how you guys are being profiled because of the terrorist actions of a minority of people in your faith.  go [censored] yourself
 
also you didn't refute the other point that I made about muhammad attacking the byzantines.  the byzantines never attack muhammad or his followers so why did muhammad attack them.
IIRC the Prophet PBUH sent the Byzantines a messenger with some message but the Byzantines killed him which until pretty recently was an act of war. I cant remember which battle it was though, just tried googling it up couldnt find it.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: muhammad and the jews
« on: August 04, 2013, 04:38:28 PM »
even to this day jews and christians aren't allowed in the cities of mecca or medina.
Why do jews and christians even care? Why is Makkah and Madinah so special to them?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: A great Quote
« on: August 03, 2013, 03:49:39 PM »
That commenter is blessed with great wisdom.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Advance Eid Mubarak
« on: August 02, 2013, 12:14:45 PM »
Thanks Brother Farhan. Same to you too. I hope you enjoy wherever you are going to. ;)

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: TAJWEED
« on: August 01, 2013, 11:22:42 AM »
Assalamualykum.


 Brother Tanveer, I said I read some articles where it says the meaning will change and again some articles say the meaning won't change. So I'm confused.
Thats interesting. My father always told me it was a very very grave sin. He used to give me examples of words and how the way you pronounce them changed the meaning. Unfortunately, i cant remember any :(

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: TAJWEED
« on: August 01, 2013, 05:19:40 AM »
It is a very serious issue Brother Farhan. You said it yourself, the meaning gets changed.

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I love loonwatch, especially danios
Heard about his book?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Question
« on: July 30, 2013, 12:17:29 AM »
Brother Osama, you're alive! :P

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: CONTRADICTION????
« on: July 29, 2013, 05:28:01 AM »
Because laws in the Quran were revealed according to the needs of the society. Now, when you have the Quran revealed over a period of 23 years do you think that the needs of society will stay exactly the same? Think about it. Its common sense that Allah will reveal a law when it is needed and when the needs for it arent there any more, he reveals another, better law for that period of time.

Alternatively, here's the ruling of a scholar on it. ;)
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=84587

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I did read that Boston Bombings article but unfortunately I wasnt persuaded by it so our arguments pretty much cancel each other out. It was an interesting conversation, especially with you Brother Ali, but there's nothing more that can be said on my part.

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Dont worry Brother Ali i wasnt calling you a coward. Yes, NATO supported the Taliban when they called themselves the Mujahideen. Came back to bite NATO in the backside in the end.

Ive already told you that i dont believe the so called "jew controlled media" so please dont keep repeating that. You seriously think im going to go into a warzone to ask for an apprently "fake taliban". We have the news and internet for a reason.

I too also agree that women beating is not Shariah but the fact is the taliban do beat women and yes probably because of cultural causes but they still claim it is Islamic. I too think the "mainstream" views are idiotic. All that "They hate us for our freedom and way of life" talk is laughable to me but people who believe in freemasons and illuminati are also a bit strange. Human rights organisations never blame Islam, for all they're concerned they couldnt care less about Islam. These same organisations also denounce the actions of the US and UK so your argument that the joos controlled media documenting it is pretty much BS. For example Amnesty International critisize the taliban on their treatment of women but also call out the US' drone murder strikes and Guantanamo Bay.

After all, I doubt zionists would purposefully critisize themselves seeing as they send out hasbarah trolls to wage propaganda wars on anything regarding Israel and Palestine (look at Al Jazeera, i swear you;d get cancer from reading the comments if you arent careful). I have already said some videos are fake and some articles are fake so i fail to see why you repeat the same thing. A few fakes does not nullify anything. All it does is make us a bit more wary.

It is good to know that you would denounce the Taliban if they were doing anything un islamic. But seeing as you sweep anything critical of the Taliban as jew nonsense id wager it is near certain that the time will never come.

You keep referring to baseless conspiracy theories regarding jews controlling the media and banks (zionists control what the government does regarding palestine but thats it. There are no Jews in a dark little room plotting the downfall and takeover of Islam and the world). I dont see the point of carrying on this conversation when we cant agree to agree on this point. Both our arguments mostly revolve around these conspiracy theories. Yours is that the jooos control the media and so everything regarding the Taliban is lies and mine that the media does lie at times but it is also true that the Taliban do commit barbaric acts due to their ideological difference to normal muslims. Believe what you will but remember, people like the Taliban never survive long. You'll see.

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Assalamualykum.


 Thank you all for your valuable opinions.

 Okay, brother Tanveer you said, you saw Talibans on Tv claiming the responsibility for suicide attacks. How do you know they aren't fake? As I've told you earlier these Zionists are expert at making up stories. For example "The 1/11 attacks". It was totally a false story with false videos.

 Again you said, Talibans beat women and children. Okay did you see that with your own eyes? No. So those videos are somewhat fake.

 Listen, the main objective of the Zionists behind Afghan operation was to establish a control over south Asian politics not eradicating terror. In order to make up a cause for the operation they made up that false "1/11 story".

Take Care.

I dont believe the zionist conspiracy theory or jewish media control theory and i never willl. Some videos are clearly fake. Some stories are also clearly fake. For example (m recalling this from memory. Might be wrong in a few details but the overall story is correct i think) the coalition attacked a wedding once and beheaded/killed/burned (i cant remember which) two women and a girl, they claimed the taliban did it. It was later found out that this was a lie by the US. Thats why I dont watch the BBC, CNN, ITV, Channel 4 News or FOX (lol). I get all my info and stuff from outlets such as antiwar.com, foreignpolicy.com, glenn greenwald (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/glenn-greenwald?INTCMP=SRCH) and Loonwatch.com (whenever there are any politics related articles). Just because western governments are hypocritical and lie does not mean that the Taliban dont do what they do. The cold hard truth is that the Taliban do partake in such activities and we shouldnt be ashamed to say so. We know that what they do is wrong in Islam and that they only claim legitimacy through theological means. If we could just band together and condemn them for what they are and expose the fact that they are islamically frauds

1) Our countries wouldnt be in such a mess due to the incompetence of such people.

2) Id wager people would get closer to Islam as these people p**s on Islam's name and people get disheartened by Islam wrongfully thinking it's what Islam condones.

3) We'd be able to resist the meddling from western governments.

4) Everyone would be happy and we can all eat ice cream.

Dont mistake my vehement dislike for the Taliban and Al Qaeda and Hamas and Fatah and Hizbullah as a defense of the actions of the US, UK and Israel. I thoroughly hate their actions but I also hate what the said organisations do. I truly believe what they are doing is haram.

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The proof is in the fact that the Taliban themselves claim responsibility for acts. The proof is in the human rights organisations and websites like antiwar who arent scared of the governments that document what happens. Where is your proof of this 'fake taliban'? All taliban are bad. If someone calls themselves the same as these hypocrites then they are just as disgusting. You ignore the fact that their is plenty of video footage showing the Taliban in all their barbarity. Its ridiculous that you think beard patrols and abusing women is 'shariah'.  The zionists dont give a flying crap about afghanistan. They only care about occupying palestine. Bring your proof if otherwise.

I agree absolutely, our faith is weak. We have people like you who blindly defend any 'muslim' and believe anything they say. Our Ummah is full of cowards who refuse to see people for what they truly are and follow idiotic conspiracy theories in an attempt to justify themselves. There was a time when people wouldnt be afraid to speak out and correct the Rightly Guided Caliph. Now, assaulting women is 'shariah'.

The Taliban ARE terrorists. Terrorists which NATO had supported. And yet another stupid jew conspiracy. Malala was shot by Pakistani Taliban for wanting education. We both know the western governments (not people) are hypocrites. We both accept attacking children wanting education is wrong. So why do you defend the taliban? Give up these conspiracy theories brother. They are harming us.

Muslims want shariah not a corrupt taliban kind of law.

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One wonders what type of "Islamic" shariah they are trying to establish. NATO are criminals. That much is true. But the Taliban are arguably greater criminals. Disgusting extremists trying to decieve is with the "We are trying to establish Islam in Afghanistan" lie. You do realise that the Taliban themselves take responsibility for such attacks. They even seem proud of it, that's how morally bankrupt they are. Too many people in this day and age whinge about everything being "the zionists fault". I think you need to reconsider what you think Shariah is if you believe beard patrols, beating women silly, banning women's education and god knows what else is "Shariah". Are you seriously telling me you think this is what Allah has ordained? Thats why we are so knee deep in crap. Believing in stupid conspiracy theories and white washing what fellow muslims do just because they say they're muslim.

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