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Sama Ali a.s never supported abu bakr and umar, ye this is right Ali a.s wasnt greedy of caliphhood but it doesnt deny the fact that it was stolen away from him with dishonesty, on which Ali a.s was agreed that caliphood was his right
and abu bakr did dishonesty

this has been written in sahih bukhari
But we used to consider that we too had some right in this affair (of rulership) and that he (i.e. Abu Bakr) did not consult us in this matter kitab al almaghazi  (Book #59, Hadith #546)

same hadis is in sahih muslim and allama wahiduz zaman with sharah nawai has written with the sharah
of sahih muslim

It is narrated on the authority of Urwa b. Zubair who narrated from A'isha that she informed him that fatima, daughter of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), sent someone to Abu Bakr to demand from him her share of the legacy left by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) from what Allah had bestowed upon him at Medina and Fadak and what was left from one-filth of the income (annually received) from Khaibar. Abu Bakr said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:" We (prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity." The household of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) will live on the income from these properties, but, by Allah, I will not change the charity of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) from the condition in which it was in his own time. I will do the same with it as the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upun him) himself used to do. So Abu Bakr refused to hand over anything from it to fatima who got angry with Abu Bakr for this reason. She forsook him and did not talk to him until the end of her life. She lived for six months after the death of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). When she died, her husband. 'Ali b. Abu Talib, buried her at night. He did not inform Abu Bakr about her death and offered the funeral prayer over her himself. During the lifetime of fatima, 'All received (special) regard from the people. After she had died, he felt estrangement in the faces of the people towards him. So he sought to make peace with Abu Bakr and offer his allegiance to him. He had not yet owed allegiance to him as Caliph during these months. He sent a person to Abu Bakr requesting him to visit him unaccompanied by anyone (disapproving the presence of Umar) (Book #019, Hadith #4352)

imam nawai wrote in his sharah
Ali a.s didnt even wanted to meet umar coz umar's actions could be against ahlbayt a.s
refference sahih muslim alama wahiduzama with sharah nawai page 34 volume 5 sahih muslim

now in these ahadiths if we read them full we can clearly see Ali a.s didnot gave bayah to abu bkr umar 6 months
which clearly contradicts the ahadiths you have given from out of 6 authentic books of ahlsunnah none of the books say Ali a.s
pledge allegiance on the same day but there is time period of 6 months has been written in siha sittah

now if you notice lets see what umar is saying in saqifa

 So if any person gives the Pledge of allegiance to somebody (to become a Caliph) without consulting the other Muslims, then the one he has selected should not be granted allegiance, lest both of them should be killed."  (Book #82, Hadith #817)
sahih bukhari

so you see my friend? what the narrations say? 1: Ali a.s said we too had some right in this affair (of rulership)
                                                                           2: abu bakr didnot consulted us

what we get is Ali a.s clears that he was elligible of khilafat and abubkr didnot consulted him too and the time period is 6 months
now according to hazrat umar the punishment of not consulting others for rulership is death and the person who donot consult others for rulership his rulership is baatil
this punishment should b implied on abubkr and umr as per them

now come to the legacy of umar ibn khattab what he is saying in sahih muslim
this is timeperiod of more then 2 years Ali a.s keep considering umar and abu bkr sinful liar and treachrous people

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4349 wherein Caliph Umar acknowledged the following to Imam ‘Ali (as):

“When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) passed away, Abu Bakr said:” I am the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him).” Both of you came to demand your shares from the property (left behind by the Messenger of Allah). (Referring to Hadhrat ‘Abbas), he said: You demanded your share from the property of your nephew, and he (referring to ‘Ali) demanded a share on behalf of his wife from the property of her father. Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had said:” We do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity.” So both of you thought him to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest.  And Allah knows that he was true, virtuous, well-guided and a follower of truth. When Abu Bakr passed away and (I have become) the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him), you thought me to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest”.

conclusion: it was Ali a.s's right to be the fst caliph and he didnt pledged them from the above points 1 coz he couldnt pledge to the criminal whos punishment is death and khilafat is batil(according to speech of umar in saqifa) 2 nor abu bkr umar tried to meet ali a.s during those 6 months proves they were doing batil khilafat with corrupt basis as per them shortly they were doing the crime with their full intention from which they were fully aware off 3 Ali a.s kept calling abu bakr and umar liars till khilaafat of umar ibn khatab (according to umar ibn khtab) which counts 2 years + after abu bkr, 4 abubkr umar did batil khilafat according to their own speeches and narrations of sihah sittah as mentioned above and were criminals of death punishment
so
your claims have no weight jst contradictory to the siha sittah most authentics after Quran for ahlsunnah and speeches of abu bkr and umar.

2nd thing is about narration of aron a.s and moses a.s
fst Prophet sas said this to Ali a.s when he made him CALIPH

وَحَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا غُنْدَرٌ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ، ح وَحَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، وَابْنُ بَشَّارٍ قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنِ الْحَكَمِ، عَنْ مُصْعَبِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ، أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ عَنْ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ، قَالَ خَلَّفَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَلِيَّ بْنَ أَبِي طَالِبٍ فِي غَزْوَةِ تَبُوكَ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ تُخَلِّفُنِي فِي النِّسَاءِ وَالْصِّبْيَانِ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى غَيْرَ أَنَّهُ لاَ نَبِيَّ بَعْدِي ‏"‏ ‏.‏
here is the arabic scan of hadis here you can clearly see the words takhlafni derived from root khalifa used by prophet sas and the same is translated by urdu translator allama wahiduz zaman with sharah imam nawai fazail sahaba narration 1507 vol 3

now here is the HolyQuran surah 7verse 142 وَقَالَ مُوسَى لأَخِيهِ هَارُونَ اخْلُفْنِي فِي قَوْمِي

The word ukhulfni is the root origin of the Arabic word Khalifa (Caliph), by whose use Allah, who is above all error, is directly implying that Harun (as) would now take Musa (as)’ s role among the people as their khalifa, the position that Musa (as) had now been passed to his brother Harun (as). If you look at the available English translations they confirm this, although they don’t use the words caliph. A successor is a person who takes the place of another when that person leaves, whether temporarily or forever. This makes it clear that Nabi Harun [as] held the position of Caliph during the life of Musa [as]. Now let us turn to the hadith. Sometimes in translation of the beautiful marvelous Arabic of the Qur’an, whose depth one can spend a whole lifetime studying, the true meaning of a word of Allah is lost. By study of the pure classical Quranic Arabic used here we shall show the position the Qur’an gives Harun (as) to Musa (as) and thereby the position Muhammad(s) gave Ali (as) in this hadith, for this verse clarifies the relationship of Harun (as) to Musa (as). In English the one Arabic word ukhulfni chosen by Allah in 7:142 has been translated in English transliteration in manner that indicate succession.

[Mohsin Khan]: And Mûsa (Moses) said to his brother Harun (Aaron): Replace me among my people.

[Shakir]: and Musa said to his brother Haroun: Take my place among my people.

[Pickthal]: and Moses said unto his brother, Aaron: Take my place among the people.

it is clear from this verse that in Musa (as)’s absence Harun (as), who had till then been his vizier, became the acting khalifa.

same has been implied to MOLA ALI A.S except there is no prophet after Muhammad sas prooves Ali a.s was his khalifa as   وَحَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا غُنْدَرٌ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ، ح وَحَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، وَابْنُ بَشَّارٍ قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنِ الْحَكَمِ، عَنْ مُصْعَبِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ، أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ عَنْ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ، قَالَ خَلَّفَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَلِيَّ بْنَ أَبِي طَالِبٍ فِي غَزْوَةِ تَبُوكَ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ تُخَلِّفُنِي فِي النِّسَاءِ وَالْصِّبْيَانِ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى غَيْرَ أَنَّهُ لاَ نَبِيَّ بَعْدِي ‏"‏ ‏.‏ SAHIH MUSLIM

another narration below is ibn asem Prophet sas said Ali a.s is the wali of every believer after me kitab al sunat volume 6 page 564
with sahih chain according to conditions of sahih muslim.

this is the narration of sahih muslim below
now  أَنَا وَلِيُّ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَجِئْتُمَا تَطْلُبُ مِيرَاثَكَ مِنَ ابْنِ أَخِيكَ وَيَطْلُبُ هَذَا مِيرَاثَ امْرَأَتِهِ مِنْ أَبِيهَا فَقَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ مَا نُورَثُ مَا تَرَكْنَا صَدَقَةٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَرَأَيْتُمَاهُ كَاذِبًا آثِمًا غَادِرًا خَائِنًا وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ إِنَّهُ لَصَادِقٌ بَارٌّ رَاشِدٌ تَابِعٌ لِلْحَقِّ ثُمَّ تُوُفِّيَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَأَنَا وَلِيُّ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَوَلِيُّ أَبِي بَكْرٍ فَرَأَيْتُمَانِي كَاذِبًا آثِمًا غَادِرًا

where umar calling himself wali and abu bkr wali just for implying himself as a selfproclaimed caliph of Prophet sas
prooves wali has been used in the kitabal sunnat by Prophet sas for Ali a.s as Khalifa of Prophet sas

last reply
“And granted we unto him out of our mercy his brother Haroon a.s”
(The Qur’an 19:53)
“You(Ali a.s) are my brother in this world and the next”
 Tareekh ul Khulafa by Suyuti, page 177

“Musa said: O Allah! Assign me a Vizier from my family, (that is) my brother Haroon. Add to my strength through him, and make him share my task: that we may celebrate thy praise without stint… (Allah) said: “We granted your requests, O Musa”
(The Qur’an 20:29-36)

“When this verse descended, The Prophet (s) was on a mountain, straight after its descent, The Prophet (s) prayed to Allah, ‘Oh Allah! Through my brother Ali, ease the burden on my back’, and Allah accepted this prayer’
 Tafsir Durre Manthur, by Jaladin Suyuti, Vol 4 p 528

…And Musa said unto his brother Haroon: Take my place (as khalifa) among the people.” (The Qur’an 7:142)

 
“Ibn Abbas report that the Messenger of Allah (P.B.U.H) said to Ali : Your status to me as Aaron status to Moses except you are not a prophet, I shall not leave without you being my successor of every believer after me”
Albaani declared it ‘Hasan’ in Dhilal al-Janah, volume 2, page 337 Tradition 1188.

concludes your all claims contradict Quran and Ahadith and Prophet sas appointed Ali a.s as his successor according to Quran Ahadith History and Tafaseer and Ali a.s clearly opposed umar and abubkr even years after khilah of abubkr and criticized them for their sins and His=> Ali a.s's right. JazakAllahKher.

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