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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 18, 2017, 02:22:33 PM »
Assalamun alaikum

Jesus Christ says that "I'm not that Messiah which you expect" which indicates that there is another anointed one to come. According to the dead sea scrolls the jews expected not one but two Messiah's.  One Messiah will be priestly and the other one will be a warrior.  You can check it from the below link.

http://www.livius.org/articles/religion/messiah/messiah-9-two-messiahs/?

The Priestly Messiah was fulfilled by Jesus(PBUH) and the warrior Messiah was fulfilled by our beloved Prophet Muhammad.

According to Luke 9:21 Jesus(PBUH) strictly says not to tell anyone that he is the Messiah. 

Mark 12, Matthew 22 and Luke 20 say that Messiah is not from David. According to chapter 12 of the book "Unveiling the Messiah in the dead sea scrolls " the Messiah is from Ismael.

Finally coming to the title "Son of Man" is none other than Prophet Muhammad and not Jesus.  You can read more detail from the below link.

http://www.discoveringislam.org/kildani_chapter_16.htm

Thank you
Mohamed Saif

that was good , i did not know they waited for two Messiahs

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Reincarnation
« on: February 18, 2017, 02:13:01 PM »
One more thing i want to add

Person who are a believer or martyr, his soul will be in a bird in paradise BEFORE JUDGMENT DAY START, like his soul was in human body on earth. So imagine yourself like a bird but you are aware of yourself and remember the life you lived on earth, now in this phase of your existence you are a bird which flies and eats from fruit of paradise.
This phase is during barzakh period until your body is created in the earth and your soul goes back to it to be judged. Then human being will enter the paradise as soul + human body.

 

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:47:57 PM »
Asalam ul laykum brothers. Brother dawud as u mentioned some contridictions, i mentioned in a different theead with answers to the supposed contridictions in bible of barnabas.

Brother Dawud i used to think these were contridictions to, but the article i posted at thread which link i posted below, shows that bible of barnabas doesn't have contridictions in regards to think that it mentions that compare with quran.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2521.msg11572.html#msg11572

for me these errors in gosepl of barnabas are proof that it is not forgery but real gosepl of barnabas, beacuse no muslim would lie and claim something against Qur'an.

But beacuse barnabas started to write gospel when jesus should depart the earth, these errors are product of human mistakes, and people cant remember everything, and gospel of barnabas is not book of God that there should not be errors in it, it is human book about event which occured during those days.
And not only that barnabad could write everyhing he even said he dont know everything, so jesus said to him other discples should help him in writing some parts.


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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 09:21:51 AM »
As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

You’re right brother Dawud, and I did noticed now that I wrongly expressed my self when I’ve said in my above post: „…but it cannot be said also that is entirely a forgery”. Of course, I also believe that the Gospel of Barnabas is not a forgery, Muslims could not wrote it, since it contains some contradictions, and Muslims would not contradict the Quran. If Barnabas quote it from his memory, then it is possible that he could have make some errors, it is natural.

This Gospel has intrigued me since I've discovered some very interesting parallel allusion to the text of Isaiah, and I think it can resolves some puzzled passages relating to the old testament prophecies! The Gospel of Barnabas should be systematically studied especially by Muslims.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

me to, that was really good book, you get answers to many questions, specially how crusifiction occured.

even if it was forgery it would still be more logical than bible which they have today.

as i said, i dont Think muslims made these errors, beacuse muslims would not lie on prophet jesus like that nor would we contradict quran like it.
those errors are human mistakes beacuse of bad memory of barnabas and those who helped him to write it.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 05:19:00 AM »
i Think i have best explanation when it comes to gospel of barnbas.

First, gospel of barnbas is not a book of God, it is barnabas memories written down in a book. So if a person write stuff from the memory, of course he will make mistakes, so those mistakes in barnabas gospel is proof that it is not forgery but actually proof that it is not forgery, beacuse if someone claim it was muslims who wrote it, then muslims cant lie, that is terrible sin, second if they wanted to match with islam they would not do such obvious errors.

So errors could arrive when person try to remember what he experienced long ago, and then start to write, and it is in human nature to make errors.

221: Jesus Chargeth Barnabas to Write

Jesus turned himself to him who writes, and said: "Barnabas, see that by all means you write my gospel concerning all that has happened through my dwelling in the world. And write in a similar manner that which has befallen Judas, in order that the faithful may be undeceived, and every one may believe the truth." Then answered he who writes: "I will do so, if God wills, O Master; but I do not know what happened to Judas, for I did not see it."

Jesus answered: "Here are John and Peter who saw everything, and they will tell you all that has passed." And then Jesus commanded us to call his faithful disciples [so] that they might see him. So James and John called together the seven disciples with Nicodemus and Joseph, and many others of the seventy-two, and they ate with Jesus.

The third day Jesus said: "Go to the Mount of Olives with my mother, for there I will ascend again to heaven, and you will see who shall bear me up." So they all went there except twenty-five of the seventy-two disciples, who for fear had fled to Damascus. And as they all stood in prayer, at midday Jesus came with a great multitude of angels who were praising God: and the splendour of his face made them greatly afraid and they fell with their faces to the ground. But Jesus lifted them up, comforting them, and saying: "Do not be afraid, I am your master."

And he reproved many who believed that he had died and risen again, saying: "Do you hold me and God for liars? I said to you that God has granted to me to live almost to the end of the world. Truly I say to you, I did not die; it was Judas the traitor. Beware, for Satan will make every effort to deceive you. Be my witnesses in Israel, and throughout the world, of all things that you have heard and seen."

And having said this, he prayed God for the salvation of the faithful, and the conversion of sinners and [then], his prayer ended, he embraced his mother, saying: "Peace be to you, my mother. Rest in God who created you and me." And having said this, he turned to his disciples, saying: "May God's grace and mercy be with you." Then before their eyes the four angels carried him up into heaven.
 


so barnbas wrote this book according to his memories and what other discples told him and remember to have happened.

and we all know, people can't remember Everything, that is why errors could have emergaed in this bible.

For me, at first errors proves this is not forgery, beacuse no muslim would ever say muhammed is messiah and jesus not messiah, or other stuff which contradict qur'an.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Reincarnation
« on: February 16, 2017, 05:07:59 AM »
There is only recreation, not reincarnation, but it is very similar

in islam, dead people shall be recreated in the soil like vegetation recreates during spring time, and when their bodies are recreated their souls will be put back in the bodies, and people will start to Wake up from Death like people Wake up from sleep.

people wll be created in different bodies on judgment day, if you are people of paradise, body will be Beautiful, if you are people of hell, body will not be beuatiful it will be created for punishment.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:55:06 PM »
i have read Gospel of Barnbas twice, i think this is not forgery even though i could see some mistakes, and these mistakes tell me this is not forgery beacuse muslims would not write like that, muhammed is messiah and jesus is not messiah etc

And even if it was forgery still it is more far far more logical text than this bible which christians have today.

what i like is jesus khutbas in this gospel, about death, paradise, judgment day hell, very intresting stuff.

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Bible Prophecies / Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« on: February 14, 2017, 04:23:59 AM »
The Bible proves Prophet MOSES did pilgrimage to MECCA, INTERESTING Insight by a JEWISH writer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0NvrksQr0


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download the photos for easier Reading if your computer monitor is smaller than the photos.

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Bible Prophecies / Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« on: February 14, 2017, 01:38:41 AM »

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Wow.  Really great discoveries dear brother, Dawud!  May Allah Almighty greatly bless you, akhi.  Keep up the great work.  I will go through your posts and really work on adding them to the website, insha'Allah.  The Numerical Miracles section will definitely get a sweet big boost, insha'Allah :).  I will do it this weekend, insha'Allah:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#numerical_miracles
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


Take care akhi,
Osama Abdallah

great if you add these photos on your website so people know about these amazing stuff in the Qur'an :)























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Bible Prophecies / Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« on: February 09, 2017, 09:31:06 AM »
Also note, that Song of Solomon mentions that he will "Shout and Roar." this isn't the character of rasool saw, thus it makes song of solomon not a reliable source to point out evidence that muhammad pbuh was mentioned in bible. However, the Isaiah 42 and the rest info are solid proof. The objection that the christian and jews state, "You are not reading it in the context." Then the question lies, What context? they don't have any info regarding in what circumstances these things were said. Truth of the fact is, Jesus pbuh and rest of the prophets pbuthem, recieved tablet a 1 complete source, but prophet muhammad pbuh, recieved revelation throughout his life. There is no real historical context in regards to when or why these verses were mentioned. If there is i would love to read up on it, but besides the point. There objection to the ahmad pbuh and isaiah 42, is very weak. But we shouldn't hold on to song of solomon and bible of barnabas because, 1. song of solomon doesn't actually mention ahmad, but muhammad as a word, thus isn't comparable to the quran. 2. Bible of Barnabas has contradictions that even goes against our own religion.

But great findings brother. jazakallah kayrum.

i dont agree with you about Muhammed in song of Solomon

why beacuse , only in song of Solomon Muhammadim is metnioned, nowhere else, all other places as adjective, but here as noun

in the contextin same song of Solomon it says:

1. Muhammad
2. leader among 10 000, muhammed was leader among 10 000 Soldiers  when he netered Mekka
3. His hair was black and wavy, his hair was wavy according to hadith
4. He would be ruddy, his was White/red skin accoding to hadith
5. and last it says as Arab, they translated this as Raven

even though it clearly says Aorb but they translatwed this as Raven, and if we look in Another places same Word is used for Arabs, and in one particular Place

it says And the ravens, raven fed prophet elijaha with bread and flesh, even christian says this means arabs not ravens, beacuse ravens and arabs are wirtten same in original hebrew without wovels, now difference at all.

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