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Bart ehrman also said that the crucifixion of jesus is a secure fact ???

https://ehrmanblog.org/why-was-jesus-killed-for-members/

that only proves Islam right. If he didn't appear to be crucified historically,that means Allah was wrong when he said that he might it look like Isa was crucified


Also, maybe Isa was really put on the cross, but didn't die.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Where is Stupid Salafi?
« on: September 25, 2016, 03:48:52 PM »
out of all the sects salafis make me scared of islam the most

because of them i think im going to be punished because my beard isnt long enough or because i entered the bathroom with the wrong foot

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sounds like the ahmediyya/quranist narrative..

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also that youtube channel you linked ''islamic miracle'' or whatever, i refuted many of their refutations years ago, you can maybe still find some of my comments under the username ''norman jayden,fbi''

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I know many scientific miracles have been exaggerated, but some of these ''refutations'' are old arguments which have been refuted themselves (such as the refutation to the iron,big bang and embryology miracle)

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Apostasy
« on: September 15, 2016, 06:57:37 PM »
this is difficult to explain

I follow the ideology that not everything in sahih bukhari,muslim,ahmed,tabari,etc is 100% authentic. There are many contradictions which are irrefutable (unlike the ''supposed contradictions'' from the quran).

Now let's just assume its 100% authentic , you have to understand its context. Is leaving the US army punishable by lifetime prison? no. Is leaving the US army during a war/operation punishable? yes

and not ALL scholars agree, many scholars today disagree , this includes some top theologians from Saudi Arabia who have a degree in Islamic jurisprudence

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This is the dumbest video on the Quran i have ever seen. There are stupid people, but this guy is even more stupid.
For example on point number 8 where God says he is holding aloft the bird. What does God mean by that. God created the Universe, he created the bird, he created so called gravity, so this makes the statement God holding the bird aloft correct.

He also says that moses resurrecting a human and abraham resurrecting a bird is a scientific error because its scientifically impossible

LOL! dont let weak [censored] like this get to you

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah and Mary
« on: September 09, 2016, 09:01:12 AM »
I used to tell myself too ''why wouldn't it be recorded if true'' but keep in mind the ONLY ONES good at documentation at the time were the romans. Also, did you know many historical facts, such as Alexander the great conquering the world, had no evidence until 4 centuries later? a lot of historical events which are accepted by all historians only have 1-2 sources (another example is Nebuchadnezzar exiling all jews, very very low documentation yet historical facts). this video explains it well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTDuNFAHng

one last thing, keep in mind 99% of arabia was illiterate back then , also why do you find it difficult believing isa's holy birth but you believe in a god who created the universe? isn't everything possible for him

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah and Mary
« on: September 09, 2016, 08:59:41 AM »
I used to tell myself too ''why wouldn't it be recorded if true'' but keep in mind the ONLY ONES good at documentation at the time were the romans. Also, did you know many historical facts, such as Alexander the great conquering the world, had no evidence until 4 centuries later? a lot of historical events which are accepted by all historians only have 1-2 sources (another example is Nebuchadnezzar exiling all jews, very very low documentation yet historical facts). this video explains it well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTDuNFAHng

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Abdullah my exact thoughts. It might seem productive but its most likely counter-productive, unless they manage to totally isolate him

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkAHw2-UQc

all the infidels who make fun of the Quran saying there's protection in the sky against the jinns entering won't laugh anymore after seeing this video

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The moon split is the whole reason i ended up researching Islam and got stuck in this mess and started doubting religion ...

Everybody falsely attributing the moons several fault lines of the moon to the Prophet and claiming NASA confirmed it when they actually denied it got "Split/divided" Into two separate pieces. Which was the biggest slap to Islam from Jews/Atheists and ZombieChrists. in my opinion.

But on one side you have muslims that claim the prophet didn't do it as miracles were for the times before which were rejected.
 So i decided to take research into my own hands and make sure Muslims weren't "Cherry picking" themselves away from an error.

POINT 1 : When i analyse Surat Al Qamar. Not once do you see it saying specifically that "Muhammad split the moon". His name is not even mentioned in the chapter !

POINT 2: There are several prophet Miracles mentioned in the quran in PRECISE EXPLICIT DETAIL that Prophet Eisa or Musa did so and so. So the Quran would not be vague on this issue.

Point 3 : The word used for the moon incident was inshaqqa. Not INQASAMA or FAFAQNNAHA or FARAQNAHA which mean FULL DIVISION. Nor was PIECES even mentioned.. nor was one side here and one side there.

Point 4: In the light of all this. You will still find some scholars who claim that inshaqqa refers to full split. So i said what better way to prove them wrong than with the QURAN itself. In several verses you will find.. ( i had them in my gallery but my phones board literally died 3 days ago) You will find several verses which use THE SAME WORD INSHAQQA. FOR THE EARTH !!! In regards to the earth splits and water comes out and trees for fruits and so forth I'll try to find them soon cause i had many examples.

But does that mean... THE EARTH LITERALLY SPLIT IN TWO OH MY GOD ? Simple answer. No.

And several SURAHS use the words for FULL DIVISIONS AND SEPARATIONS that could've easily been used for the moon and were not.

If this were the case then why have older reliable scholars of the past said that he split it into two ?

Osama had already pointed out that they were not direct eye witnesses. I'm not saying Ibn Abbas is a liar. I'm saying they've explained the quran in the best possible way they can at the time. The fact that these Hadiths were not from direct eye witnesses and surprisingly enough those hadiths also contradict each other. They don't hold much weight. (one says two pieces then the other says one side here and one side here then one says the prophet flew up) They don't add up at all.

My friend's psychological professor at the Uni of Guelph gave a lecture regarding how we think if someone is from a prestigious school we just assume they're right about everything when their knowledge is extremely limited. Many tests have shown these professors knowledge is limited to a very specific topic.

At this point it's safe to say he didn't. I remember telling myself i would not be a muslim if the quran truly said the prophet did it. but little to my knowledge... and from all the bashing islam got from it... NOWHERE DOES IT SAY HE DID.

So what does that say about the surah ? All the surah is describing is the moons crack when ironically... It is freakking cracked. Which inshaqqa also means CRACKED. SPLIT also can make sense. BUT UNFORTUNATELY SOME TRANSLATIONS HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY INTO TWO PIECES WHICH IS MESSED UP.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1304627/Cracks-surface-Moon-reveal-closest-neighbour-actually-shrinking.html

The moon is clearly cracked and this is actually a damn miracle. But unfortunately people falsely attribute this to the prophet...

No cherrypicking or running around. Ive seen words in the quran itself that use the same word inshaqqah for earth and other words that mean full separation.

As for what scholars think about this. There are some scholars that say the prophet did not split the moon. You can find it under the splitting of the moon page of wikipedia.

I hope this helps because this topic was eating my brain for 8 months until i had to take matters into my own hands. Now some people might bash me and say im beating the bush or "trying" to side with science when in reality i have been an atheist before.. going back if the quran actually said he split it wouldnt have been a problem for me. BUT IT DIDNT. Therefore Allahuakbar. Most muslims dont like thinking outside the box and blindly follow other sheikhs.

I hope ive helped you brother.


This makes sense, as there are many nasa articles and videos ive seen myself which talk about large cracks on the moon. I think the problem with saying it split completely is the lack of historical witnesses, if it did the whole planet would've seen it

anyways bruv, its glad that you read quran and took a break from all those islamaphobic sites which poison the brain, its the same as those rednecks who just watch fox news and CNN

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Questions regarding moon splitting
« on: September 05, 2016, 06:48:52 PM »
Hello my dear brothers

I had some question regarding the miracle of the prophet when he split the moon


1- Did the moon really split, or was it a solar eclipse? (I remember reading an article on a website which says NASA confirmed an eclipse took place during the prophet's life). So how do we know it was not an eclipse and the moon did actually split?

2-Is there any good , reliable documentation of this event outside of Islam?

Jazakallah

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Few questions.
« on: September 05, 2016, 06:29:11 PM »
They claim bibles have some miracles, but keep in mind theres 100+ versions of the bible and all of them have had 40+ editions, would you really trust that? Anyone could have edited and added in their own thing

and when it comes to embryology we have the advance, some infidels have ''refuted'' the miracle, but their refutation has been refuted and ive yet to see a refutation to our refutation

Do not worry about skeptics bro, i worry too often but keep a strong iman and keep in mind all the great doctors, scholars,scientists and theologians who are muslim picked this religion for a reason

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The video and miracle are great, but i dont understand why he picked surah al imran in specific to show that the word mecca falls right in the middle? Is there anything special related to mecca or the kaaba in surah al imran ?

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