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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Refutation to Epilepsy Objection.
« on: December 15, 2018, 04:33:53 am »
I thought this anti Islamic trend against Muhammad SAW was gone about temporal lobe epilepsy but I saw people using it yet again. So now here's a complete refutation of this objection.

1.)Weakness, jerking, loss of awareness, et

Focal impaired awareness (complex partial) seizures can be associated with a fixed stare, impaired consciousness, fumbling with their fingers, or lip-smacking movements that last 30 to 60 seconds. There can be a posture change in an arm that also can help identify the location in the brain of these seizures. Some people also speak gibberish or lose their ability to speak in a sensible manner. Some individuals report difficulty with the language, particularly if the seizures are coming from the dominant temporal lobe. Some people may have a generalized tonic-clonic jerking and this can lead to weakness after the seizure has stopped

this never happened with the Prophet Muhammad Saw he was very much aware of his sorrounding and the questions being asked and he used to respond in accordance with revelation.
"I took a walk with the Prophet (ﷺ) on a farm in Al-Madinah, and when he reclined upon a palm-leaf stalk, a group of Jews were passing by. Some of them said, 'We should question him.' Others said: 'Do not question him for he might tell you something that you do not like.' They said to him: 'O Abul-Qasim, narrated to us about the Ruh.' The Prophet (ﷺ) stood for some time, he raised his head toward the heavens, and I recognized revelation was coming to him, until the revelation ceased. Then he (ﷺ) said: "The Ruh is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you have been given only a little (17:85).'"

Grade   : Sahih (Darussalam)   
Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3141

2.)Odor and wierd feelings

The aura is actually the first part of a focal seizure before consciousness is impaired. Examples of auras include:

A sudden sense of unprovoked fear or joy
A deja vu experience — a feeling that what's happening has happened before
A sudden or strange odor or taste
A rising sensation in the abdomen, similar to being on a roller coaster

The Prophet SAW never ever reported he felt any of these.

3.)After effects of Seizures

After a temporal lobe seizure, you may have:

A period of confusion and difficulty speaking
Inability to recall what occurred during the seizure
Unawareness of having had a seizure
Extreme sleepiness

The Prophet SAW was never confused as the hadith I provided proves he could recite the words and he was saying words that could be understood.

And he could recall what happened in his revelation hence he spoke of Jibraeel, etc.

He was aware that he got revelation hence he reported it in a hadith

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah:
While Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was talking about the period of pause in revelation. he said in his narration. "Once while I was walking, all of a sudden I heard a voice from the sky. I looked up and saw to my surprise, the same Angel as had visited me in the cave of Hira.' He was sitting on a chair between the sky and the earth. I got afraid of him and came back home and said, Wrap me! Wrap me!" So they covered him and then Allah revealed: 'O you, wrapped up! Arise and warn and your Lord magnify, and your garments purify and dessert the idols.' (74.1-5) Abu Salama said, "(Rijz) are the idols which the people of the Pre-lslamic period used to worship." After this the revelation started coming frequently and regularly

 : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 478

Extreme sleepiness isnt true, The Prophet SAW was infact to the contrary, he would be awake all his nights in prayers in the times of revelation.

4.)Seizures more than 5 mins can kill you and if you're injured you will die

Seek immediate medical help if any of the following occurs:

The seizure lasts more than five minutes.
Breathing or consciousness doesn't return after the seizure stops.
A second seizure follows immediately.
Recovery isn't complete after the seizure is over.
Recovery is slower than usual after the seizure is over.
You have a high fever.
You've injured yourself during the seizure

The Prophet SAW was alive after his revelations and he did heal, and he got a revelation in Makkah while he was injured so if it was TLE why did he not die then due to injury in seizure?

So we can see that TLE and Seizures Epilepsy really donot fit the Prophet Muhammad SAWs case.

Hence this claim is only stupid to make.

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / My refutation to Apostate Prophet
« on: November 17, 2018, 01:26:27 am »

I'll be making more refutations and the last part to Apostate Prophet. You can see the texts,etc for yourself and judge by yourself if Apostate Prophet really is truthful.

Just curious since 2:223 allows it except anal sex according to tafsirs

whats going on here? Osama is literally posting refutations to his own refutations

« on: August 20, 2018, 11:10:24 pm »
So I've been focusing on Hindus a bit, so nowadays in the Indian media I see some propaganda against Pakistani's in an attempt to divide Pakistani and Indian Muslims, although we pray in one mosque and share one religion and one progeny from the Mughals and all those empires,

So I just wanted to warn anyone who thinks Pakistani Muslims and Indian Muslims hate eachother, that is not entirely true at all, maybe there are a very rare few of Nationalist Indians and Nationalist Pakistani's, but other than them, the rest of us love our Muslim brothers in India. We respect their leader as we respect Quaid-E-Azam(Muhammad Ali Jinnah), but religiously we all have one leader and that is the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), so just a warning to those watching this fake news, donot believe in it, it's all propaganda to divide us Muslims,

And Islam does not sanction division due to Nationalism, it is a huge sin, and both Indian and Pakistani Muslims believe in this, and both Indian and Pakistani Muslims pray in one mosque, believe in one Quran, worship one God, and believe in his line of Prophets. so there is no division between us religiously and we are brothers in our faith as Muslims. and you will not see any Indian Muslim who is not overly nationalistic and is devout, hating Pakistanis, likewise with Pakistanis.

So yeah, just wanted to put this out there.

« on: July 29, 2018, 05:42:31 am »
So I want to make some point's against the Problem of Evil, especially since this is my last refutation since I don't see anymore newer arguments to refute but this problem of evil question hasn't been addressed as much as we want it to be.

Now Atheists like to bring up this problem to Muslims over and over again. But what they dont know is that this is not a problem for us, but a problem for them instead.

Lets say that issue in Thailand, when a man died to save 13 boys, now according to Islam he'll have his reward for that. now according to the atheists he will turn to food for worm, is that justice? isn't that great cruelty and evil? now lets say a woman is raped and the man who did it gets away, and lives his whole life happily and becomes food for worm, no punishment at all, now is that justice?

and now The Atheists like to point at Muslims for this question.

But what we have to know is that Evil exists, therefore God exists. especially the Quranic narrative of God. since its the only narrative which calls God creator of Good and Bad(evil). and after that the people suffering from evil, will have rewards in the end according to Islam they wont become food for worm as the Atheists believe, a martyr will go to heaven.

And not only that, most of the evil isnt due to God, it is due to our arrogance, we had two choices. The Better Path or the Worse path. and now we choose the worse path, due to urbanization and industrialization we have diseases which our forefathers have not even seen or known yet we have the guts to point towards our Creator when infact it is us who caused this evil.

Now the hypocrisy of the atheist is, in one hand he's like "WHY DOESNT GOD INTERVENE?!!" and on the other hand when God does give us a good way of life he says "BUT THATS DESTRUCTION OF FREE WILL". So its kind of hypocritical on the atheists term that he expects God to intervene but when God sends something he says that destructs his free will.
So God did give us free will, so what does that prove? that proves we had a choice and we made the wrong one which led to all this evil and suffering so Man is mostly to blame for the problem of evil and not God, God gave us a good way of life which avoids this called Islam, it is the fault of our evil dictators and leaders who don't want to follow the laws of Islam and want to follow the laws of Desire.

So thats why the problem of evil is a huge problem and infact, a bigger one for the Atheist. because he has no answer to it

As for us we have an answer to it, we have free will, and we had a test, our leaders chose the wrong path and the wrong way of writing this test by causing evil.

So what answer does the atheist have? he believes the most innocent,perfect man and the most nicest person he's met will only turn to food for worm when he dies.

Well I wont really refute David Wood anymore since his claims are just already-refuted claims recycled over and over, which have been refuted thousands of time here and in other websites.

« on: July 07, 2018, 01:10:09 pm »
Basically, I know this isnt where I should be asking but I've run out of all options

I'm being called worthless by everyone in my school,being constantly bullied and when I just ask them to stop and they all
Started to call me a "nobody" say noone cares about me,alot of them also cussed at me. and its getting me kind of depressed nowadays.

So is there any advice?

So I've spoken to brother Shaad in messages,him and I and we've been thinking to refute their youtube series together completely,since I have a youtube channel and I've already refuted one of their videos completely, and theres only like 7 videos left, since the 1st episode is just them speaking gibberish about Islam and insulting Islam. but the rest of them they try to provide arguments that are quite weak.


What do you think? Should I refute the whole series in my channel or should I leave it be?

« on: July 02, 2018, 02:10:35 am »

« on: June 30, 2018, 04:24:20 pm »

The video isnt the best quality, and you need to pause to see text.

« on: June 29, 2018, 06:30:49 pm »
The extreme importance of Hadith: I've seen people nowadays deny hadith altogether and only accept the Quran,so I'll refute them one by one,and also their claims.

So first let me refute them from their roots,that Muhammad SAW is not needed for the Quran.
First of all Muhammad SAW is VERY important according to the Quran itself,infact he is the main model for the Muslims.
According to Surah al Sajda,verse 21
"There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often."
This pattern that the Quran mentions is not to be found in the Quran,but in the hadith,then my argument of interpretation comes,which the Quranist can never escape,and it destroys the Quranist from his roots
"And We revealed to you [O Muhammad] the message [Qur’an] that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought."[Qur’an 16:44]

This says the Prophet SAW himself was COMMANDED to interpret the Quran,the Interpretation is not in the Quran,but the hadith,nowhere else will you find it,except in the hadith

Muhammad SAW also has been made for Muslims a Judge,as seen in this verse
"But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission." [Qur’an 4:65]

So nor is Muhammad SAWs judgement found in the Quran,but in the hadith,now to my other 3 arguments before I get to refuting claims.
My argument is that,the Quran never tells you you can't have sex with a five year old,only hadith forbids that,the Quran tells you beat your wife,but the Hadith explains and says not to beat your wife very harshly,but very lightly.

Infact the Quran supports the hadith,and says there was a revelation,a revelation NOT INSIDE the Quran,infact outside the Quran,this outside revelation is mentioned in Surah an najm
Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,"(53:2)
"Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination."(53:3)
"It is not but a revelation revealed,"(53:4)
"Taught to him by one intense in strength -"(53:5)
"One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true form"(53:6)

This whole description of the revelation,fits with the hadith.
And my last one is that the Prophet SAWs commandments are important,and the commandments arent in the Quran,but the hadith
“And let those who oppose the Messenger's (Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)) commandment (i.e. his Sunnah— legal ways, orders, acts of worship, statements) (among the sects) beware, lest some Fitnah (disbelief, trials, afflictions, earthquakes, killing, overpowered by a tyrant) should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them”

[an-Noor 24:63].

Now to the verses the Hadith-rejector provides,and once this has been refuted,we can conclude.
This is the most quoted verse by Quranists,Quran 6:114-5.
This first of all,is an error by the Quranist
The verse says Anyone who does shirk,and seeks Judges other than Allah
"[Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters."(6:114)
And the book explained in detail,who explained this book in detail,and where is this explanation found?
The Quran says the Messenger SAW explained it
":And We revealed to you [O Muhammad] the message [Qur’an] that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought. [Qur’an 16:44]"

So therefore it can only mean the hadith,and not the Quran only.

Now the second argument that they bring up,Is how do we know the hadith are true??
First of all,how do we know the Quran are true? through chain of narration,afcourse the Quran has a solid chain of narration and therefore due to that it is unchanged, and we have the earliest Quran aswell.
Same is with the hadith,The hadith was transmitted through solid chain of narration,we first look at,and then look at classical commentaries on these narrations,then decide which hadith is true or not, And we have As Sahifa Us Sadiqa,which was a hadith written by Sahabi Abdullah Bin Amr Al A'as. R.A
Now claiming these ways donot lead us to truth is an absurdity,thats like saying,Quran doesn't lead us to truth,we know these hadith are true due to their historical and narrative authenticity,not due to a presupposition a hadith rejector makes.

Therefore we can conclude.

That The hadith is indeed a authentic Islamic source and is indeed a outside-revelation that Muslims must follow in light of the Quran

Argument 1:
“Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists),

Has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood).

Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous”

[al-‘Alaq 96:1-3].

In arabic the Word of "clot" is Alaq'

Now what does Alaq mean? it also used in these 2 verses

O People, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection, then [consider that] indeed, We created you from dust, then from a Nutfah, then from a Alaqah... [Quran 22:5]

{ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً}
Then We made the Nutfah into a Alaqah... [Quran 23:14]
The Qur’an describes one of the stage of the developing human embryo with the word alaqah. This word carries various meanings including: to hang, to be suspended, to be dangled, to stick, to cling, to cleave and to adhere. It can also mean to catch, to get caught, to be affixed or subjoined.[20] Other connotations of the word alaqah include a leech-like substance[21], having the resemblance of a worm; or being of a ‘creeping’ disposition inclined to the sucking of blood. Finally, its meaning includes clay that clings to the hand, blood in a general sense and thick, clotted blood - because of its clinging together.[22] This view (that alaqah means clotted blood - because of its clinging together) is supported by Ibn Kathir, as he explains the word to mean a “dangling clot”.[23]

Below is a correlation of the following meanings of the word alaqah and modern embryology:

1.      Hanging/suspended
2.      Suckling blood
3.      Leech/worm like substance
4.      Blood-clot

Embryologists Barry Mitchell and Ram Sharma explain the ‘hanging’ or ‘suspended’ aspects of the alaqah stage. They describe the embryo as being:

connected to the cytotrophoblast by a connecting stalk of extra-embryonic mesoderm (primitive connective tissue). The stalk is the forerunner of the umbilical cord.[24]

Interestingly John Allan and Beverley Kramer use the word “suspend” to describe the role of the connecting stalk

2.)The hadith of Jabir ibn Abdullah R.A

There is a hadith concerning the Prophet SAW telling Jabir R.A to marry young girls

Christian prince quotes the whole hadith except a part of the hadith

He said, “O Messenger of Allah! My father died  a martyr at Uhud, leaving behind daughters, so I did not wish to marry a young girl like them, but rather an older one who could take care of them and look after them.” The Prophet salla Allahu ʿalayhi wa salam replied, “You have made the correct choice.”

3.)Christian Prince and the word 'Salah'
This is the stupidest argument by far

The argument that Al Salawat or Sallalahu Alayh means Prayer or prayers be upon you. This made me cringe so hard, CP Is deceiving people by saying he knows arabic and thats only modern arabic,not classical or formal arabic, Sali ala=/=Salah/salat.

You see
Salah/Sali or Yusallee means To bless,

to bless


Now to the arabs who might scream out now, "SALI MEANS PRAYER TOO"
Well you see,it depends on the context of the word

To say Sali Ala Muhammad SAW basically means Prayers on Muhammad SAW? What does that mean? There is no context or any logical meaning to it, we dont Pray on a statue of Muhammad SAW which doesnt exist,We dont pray on Muhammad SAW.

So the context would fit when we say Sali Ala Muhammad SAW Means Blessings on Muhammad SAW, since this provides context,meaning,etc to it and makes more sense and also fits in as compared to Sali meaning prayers.

But now when it comes to how to use Prayer,whenever you say you pray to something,someone or a deity you Say ILA,which means To
And in arabic a logical example would be
Sali Ila Allah, Blessings to Allah, wont make sense, since you dont invoke blessings to Allah, Allah needs no blessings he is the creator of Blessings, so in this case, the context of "Sali=Prayer" Would fit

In which case it'd make the Context into prayers to Allah.

Concerning the name Allah this is from a christian blog:
The normal generic word for God is "alaha"/"aloho" (ܐܠܗܐ), which is linguistically related to the Hebrew word for God "elohim".

The translation of the tetragrammaton, YHWH, on the other hand, is "maria"/"morio" (ܡܪܝܐ), usually decomposed as mar-yah, Lord-Yah ("mar", lord, also being used by syriac speaking churches as a title for saints/doctors of the Church: "mor Ephrem" = Saint Ephrem). (Note: this word has nothing to do with the proper name Maria, coming from the Hebrew Mariam)

To answer your question, Jesus would almost certainly have used one of the two, or both at the same time as it is commonly done in Syriac: Maria Alaha.

Last remark: The arabic word Allah, used also by Arabic Christians, is no more no less related to the Aramaic Alaha than to the Hebrew Elohim. The three share a common linguistic root, which is nothing exceptional, so no point being dragged on sterile arguments concerning this point.

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