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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: EXPOSING SHIISM
« on: February 19, 2013, 09:11:20 am »
Waliyat does not mean belief in 12 demigods. A single Google search really makes the rest of your paragraph fall apart. Also, if Sunni books like Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim say stuff like the prophet became naked, possessed, cursed and whipped innocent people, had his mother thrown into hell, does that mean all Sunnis believe that? I most certainly don't. adnaanshaikh195 reminds me of these people:

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
« on: February 19, 2013, 09:02:48 am »
Blablabla, Jesus is not God, end off.

Christian 'countries' do not even follow Jesus, they worship him, and their people are full of pornography, homosexuality, paganism, man-made laws, rape, pedophilia, etc.

Worship God alone.

There is none worthy of worship except God alone.

Jesus is Christ is no more than a messenger sent by God.

'Son of God' is an idiom for Servant of God.

Dear adnaanshaikh195,

If there is anything from my previous post that you wish to address specifically, please feel free to do so.

Jesus is called the begotten Son of God - that he was born by the Holy Spirit (i.e. without a worldly father) and not by the will of flesh.

In John 3:16, Jesus says
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It does not matter what Christian countries do - those who follow Christ from their heart would never engage in the activities you have described. In every religion, there are people who hurt others and sin against God.

Worshipping Jesus is the same as worshipping the Father because they are one.

John 14:11
11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

There are many instances where people worshipped Jesus in the Bible.

Mathew 2:11, The wise men who came to see Jesus worshipped him

11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

John 9:38, The blind man worshipped Jesus
38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

In John 20, Thomas calls Jesus "God" when he appeared to the disciples after resurrection. Thomas did not believe that Jesus had resurrected after his death and he said he would not believe until he sees for himself.

John 20:24-29
24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”

But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
 
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
 
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”


Praise the Lord,
God bless you all.

Dear Brother Jesus.breadoflife,

You'll have to excuse adnaanshaikh195 here. His primary argument method is "blahblahblah I don't wanna read what you wrote, it probably sucks anyway. I am right. You are just an evil twisted psychopath. Grow up kid". You see, it's really hard coping in debates and discussions when alcohol hits the sweet spot, or as you may know it, the brain.

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I concur. It makes no sense to have inconsistent laws. Legalization of narcotics will decrease organized crime. Look at Mexico with their drug and gun laws, yet criminals are running the place.
Marijuana doesn't turn you into a deranged psychopathic violent criminal. It actually turns you into a pacifist. This is why the ban on Marijuana took place a few years before WWII.
Also,
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Just curious, how do you know that 'Zoroaster' was a prophet? I'm not denying, neither accepting it, just wondering.
Where are you getting that idea from? I never implied that
You wrote: " the prophet
Zoroaster wrote a sacred text listing 10,000
medicinal plants, with medical marijuana
at the top "

 Don't worry kid, you'll hit puberty soon

That was copied and pasted. and I meant he was a prophet in the religious sense. Defined as A person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God: "the Old Testament prophet Jeremiah".
Oh and before you bash me, you need to stop crying "I LEAVING AGAIN OMG OMG DAJJAL OMG NICE WOW WEBSITE CHRISTIAN ONLY TALK JESUS OMG SHIA KUFR OMG WHATEVERISNOTTHERELIGIONIWASRAISEDINISFALSE" gee, doesn't THAT sound a bit arrogant..
Period pains if i'm right, aww, you're finally hitting puberty, don't worry.

Lmao, making a mockery out of me, do you know how stupid your topics make you look? How old are you?
I asked why you thought 'Zoroaster' was a prophet, and you replied "WT* when did i say that?", are you stupid? don't you read your topics before you post them? Fool, and of course if a muslim posts a topic where it says 'Prophet ______' i'm going to question them, you could've said "oh i copied and pasted it" instead of replying with "WT* when did i say that", but no, you are stupid.

Secondly, please go the the Shia topic I created a while ago and reply to what I asked from you, you have problems reading what other people post too, you claimed something of which i did not, please go and read the post, and show me where I wrote such and such (I'm not bothered going to the topic to find what you accused me of writing).

Thirdly, enough with your badty stupid topics. "OH THE QUR'AN DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY WE ARE ALL FROM ADAM, WE MIGHT HAVE EVOLVED. OH THE NETHEARFAKFKSFK WERE MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY BURIED THEIR DEAD ", Oh GUESS WHAT, THE AHTEISTS TODAY MUST BE MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY BURY THEIR DEAD TOO, dumb retard.

The Dajjal is not purely symbolic, he will be a man, not a cyclops as you falsely claim we believe, The evidence is for it is when the Prophet (Peace and blessings be upon him)'s companion Tamim-adhari and his companions went on a journey to sea and crashed into an Island and met the Dajjal, The Dajjal told them when he would come and told them it would be better to follow the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) as it would be better for them, and also, when the prophet went on his ascention to the heavens, he saw the Dajjal too.

"I meant he was a prophet in the religious sense" - Are you retarded?? first you said "WHERE DID I WRITE THAT", now you're saying you meant it in that sense? What the **** are you on about religious sense? That's like me saying, the Prophet Paul corrupted the message of Jesus, and then someone asking me, there is no Prophet between Jesus and Muhammad so what do you mean? and me replying, " bad WHERE DID I WRITE THAT " "OH MY BAD, I AM RETARDED AND I CANNOT READ WHAT I COPIED AND PASTED " "OH WAIT I DID NOT MEAN IT THAT WAY I MEANT IT IN A RELIGIOUS SENSE " "OH WAIT I JUST REALIZED HOW RETARDED I AM FOR LYING "

In the sense you asked me, I thought you were referring to the Muslim definition. Otherwise, it was a really stupid question. Oh and the burial rites of Neanderthals were an important breakthrough in scientific research. Of course, wouldn't expect you to know anything about science *sigh*. Today of course, people will bury their dead, but prehistoric men, who had to survive on natural selection, they would benefit from eating their dead, not burying them. and in the ancient world, they used to cremate their dead. Now when you've grown a brain and stopped poisoning your brain with hooka or whatever the crap Arabs use you can reply.

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Marijuana is a drug. Wait, where the fut will you get marijuana from anyway?

It's a leaf. The Earth belongs to man. Unless someone wants to stop me from consuming plants. Then I'll be really pissed

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Marijuana is a drug that, on the long run, hurt the brain cells, dries up the body and hurt the body's systems, such as the digestive system, nervous system, and others.  It's an intoxicant, and all intoxicants are forbidden in Islam:

[005:090]  O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.

[005:091]  Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of God, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?

Getting stoned is never good.  I've spoken with marijuana users before, and they said it sometimes makes you feel high, but many times also it depresses you to a point of making you cry.  Nothing good about being stupid.  I've met stoned people on the street before.  They don't know where on earth they're in.  Plus, some of them even had already peed in their pants.  The more you input this garbage into your body, the more and more it'll mess you up and take you out of the reality of the world you're living in.  So, you'll end up losing your job, losing the people around you, and end up homeless on the street.

None of this is cool.  It's dangerous and fatal.  One can also imagine how dangerous it is when one drives, as driving is part of every adult's life in the age that we live in.  As Muslims we shouldn't propagate this garbage to our people, nor to any other people.

that is SO MUCH BULLSHYT. Marijuana does not kill brain cells. Things like Tobacco, Alcohol, Aspirin, and Caffeine are far much dangerous. Marijuana taken zero lives. Marijuana does not make you stupid. It turns you into a pacifist and opens the creative side of your brain. It doesn't depress you. You need firsthand experience with it to draw conclusions. You cannot talk to another person about it. Marijuana is a plant. Why would God make a plant that he forbids? I'll tell you something important. Marijuana has superb medicinal properties for cancer and AIDS patients, and it is not legalized because it would screw up the corrupt health care system. Really, Hukka, Shisha, etc are deadly poisons worse than Marijuana.
Definition of an Intoxicant: the physiological state produced by a poison or other toxic substance typically resulting in inebriation.

Alcohol, opium/heroin and many other drugs are both numbing and toxic but cannabis is neither.

Cannabis does not block any neurotransmission nor does it produce the typical toxic side effects (withdraw, nausea, hangover, overdose, death) of other drugs listed as either a narcotic or intoxicant.

1) Marijuana is not addictive
2) It does not kill brain cells
3) It doesn't make you stupid

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I concur. It makes no sense to have inconsistent laws. Legalization of narcotics will decrease organized crime. Look at Mexico with their drug and gun laws, yet criminals are running the place.
Marijuana doesn't turn you into a deranged psychopathic violent criminal. It actually turns you into a pacifist. This is why the ban on Marijuana took place a few years before WWII.
Also,
Quote
Just curious, how do you know that 'Zoroaster' was a prophet? I'm not denying, neither accepting it, just wondering.
Where are you getting that idea from? I never implied that
You wrote: " the prophet
Zoroaster wrote a sacred text listing 10,000
medicinal plants, with medical marijuana
at the top "

 Don't worry kid, you'll hit puberty soon

That was copied and pasted. and I meant he was a prophet in the religious sense. Defined as A person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God: "the Old Testament prophet Jeremiah".
Oh and before you bash me, you need to stop crying "I LEAVING AGAIN OMG OMG DAJJAL OMG NICE WOW WEBSITE CHRISTIAN ONLY TALK JESUS OMG SHIA KUFR OMG WHATEVERISNOTTHERELIGIONIWASRAISEDINISFALSE" gee, doesn't THAT sound a bit arrogant..

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I concur. It makes no sense to have inconsistent laws. Legalization of narcotics will decrease organized crime. Look at Mexico with their drug and gun laws, yet criminals are running the place.
Marijuana doesn't turn you into a deranged psychopathic violent criminal. It actually turns you into a pacifist. This is why the ban on Marijuana took place a few years before WWII.
Also,
Quote
Just curious, how do you know that 'Zoroaster' was a prophet? I'm not denying, neither accepting it, just wondering.
Where are you getting that idea from? I never implied that

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Should medical marijuana be banned
« on: February 17, 2013, 06:14:51 am »
If you say yes you better give a good reason.

Banning Marijuana because it
1) Cures cancer and AIDS
2) Will screw up our corrupt health care system (grown at home medicine)
the Roman Catholic
Church banned medical marijuana during
the Dark Ages

Todd Mccormick was given six months, diagnosed with cancer. His mom gave him marijuana and while the rest of the people were soggy from the chemo, Todd fought and is still fighting today. He cross bred many variations and eventually ended up labeling a use for each (including one for cancer). The DEA came and took it all. Cost for bailing out someone caught using medical marijuana (1900s): 500k. Cost for bailing murderers out: 50k. Hmm...

Annual drug and alcohol deaths in the
United States:
Tobacco ……....450,000
Alcohol …..…...100,000
Prescriptions......100,000
Aspirin…..............1,000
Marijuana....................0

Before you bring up "omg dangerous addictive", alcohol kills more than weed and has no medical advantages whatsoever. People abuse eating and die of heart diseases, should we ban food? According to American logic, yes.
Relics discovered in ancient pyramids
indicate that Egyptian physicians prescribed
medical marijuana for childbirth.

The first recorded evidence of medical
marijuana use appeared over 4,700 years
ago in the pharmacopoeia of Shen Nung,
one of the fathers of Chinese medicine. In
Persia 2,700 years ago, the prophet
Zoroaster wrote a sacred text listing 10,000
medicinal plants, with medical marijuana
at the top

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Neanderthals buried their dead? Well, so do Chimpanzees and Elephants—are they Muslims? :P

But yes, Neanderthals had a more advanced civilization than that which we have credited to them in the past.
you're missing the point. Chimps and Elephants did not have ancient civs..

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The Abrahamic religions are the only religions which suggest burying their dead (other religions like Hinduism have cremation, sometimes even burning the wife alive).

The Neanderthals also built tools and conversed with each other, caring for the sick, and even healing them. It is obvious they had guidance from Adam (PBUH). We share more than 90% common DNA with Neanderthals. They even had their own language!

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You asked me
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Where did Osama Abdallah say this?

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Where did Osama Abdallah say this? Btw, Osama Abdallah, can i call you Osama Abdullah instead? (Serious question)

Secondly, the word Shia in Arabic, means division or sect if that makes sense.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Use of the word Shi'a in the Qur'an
« on: February 16, 2013, 07:28:16 am »
Br. Osama has said that the Qur'an has prohibited the word "Shia". However, it is a broad term that is used throughout the Qur'an, most notably:
37:83 - And indeed, among his kind was Abraham
The Arabic of it uses the word Shia (source: Sahih International)

Qur'an 28:15 - And he entered the city at a time of inattention by its people and found therein two men fighting: one from his faction and one from among his enemy. And the one from his faction called for help to him against the one from his enemy, so Moses struck him and [unintentionally] killed him. [Moses] said, "This is from the work of Satan. Indeed, he is a manifest, misleading enemy."
Once again, the Arabic version has the word "Shia".


So we see the word "Shia" is a broad term that is not be used as a label to divide the Muslims, as stated in verse 30:33.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Relevance of no 19 in the Quran
« on: February 14, 2013, 12:48:33 pm »
Newton was an alchemist, yet you seem to believe in gravity. Please clarify this to me.

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John 14:8-11
 
8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

Mathew 16:13-17

13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 

May the Lord God also reveal to you this salvation which can be found under no other name. May the grace of God be with you.

All I get from you Christians is Jesus, Jesus and Jesus.

I will never worship a human who never claimed to be God or divine in anyway, he also commanded his people to worship his Lord (He Jesus peace be upon him said 'Our Lord').

Don't reply to me telling me that he was in his human form and crap like that, it's illogical, the trinity exists in pagan origins, it was used with the Egyptians, it's used today with the Hindus, and also at the time on Nimrod (The king Abraham (peace be upon him) argued against).

Jesus is son of man, it's clear.

" God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? " (Numbers 23:19)

I worship the God of Noah, Abraham, Jacob (Israel), Adam, Ishmael, Isaac etc. (Peace be upon them all)

I will never worship a human or anything except God alone.

Jesus (peace be upon him)  prayed to God, you pray to Jesus.

I am following Jesus more then you are, it's logical.

BY THE ORDER OF THE 6000 YEAR OLD FLAT EARTH THOU SHALL BE BEHEADED FOR BLASPHEMY

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