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Walaikum asalam!
Here are list of videos!: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkWgOaNzuzgxRzh0OQQQWNBK1sWbgdF6w
As'slamau Alaikum dear brother TruthExposer777,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for the links and the hard work.  I will insha'Allah download the videos and store them safely and give links to them in case they vanish.  Keep up the good work, akhi, and please continue to provide links that refute CP.  He is too overrated.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Chosen One
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on February 26, 2019, 06:48:55 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mustafa,

Welcome aboard and Jazaka Allah Khayr for the posts about the Oral Torah.  I will insha'Allah investigate your points and do my research and update the website's articles about which book is the people of the Book's.  We know that Allah Almighty inherited the Book given to Moses, peace be upon him, to the people of Israel as their official Book:

www.answering-christianity.com/deuteronomy4_2.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'slamau Alaikum dear brother TruthExposer777,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for the links and the hard work.  I will insha'Allah download the videos and store them safely and give links to them in case they vanish.  Keep up the good work, akhi, and please continue to provide links that refute CP.  He is too overrated.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Response To Christian Prince & Orthodox Apologetics Church: Holy Spirit, Gabriel & Word(s) of Allah*
Refutation link: https://youtu.be/dvop65eFgmU
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Chosen One
« Last post by Mustafa on February 25, 2019, 07:10:55 AM »
Why don’t Christians and Jews except Prophet Muhammed Pbuh as the Messenger of God, when their very Bible confirms the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh as a Chosen Messenger of God Almighty. The earliest and most ancient written biblical text confirms this.
 
The DSS fragments found in the Qumran caves 1QIsaa reveal the distortion found in the Masoretic text which was written during the 10th century, the Aleppo Codex.
 
Now let's show the Christians and Jews where Prophet Muhammed Pbuh is mentioned in their scriptures are the chosen Messenger of God
 
"Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations. (Isaiah 42:1)
 
אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc in Hebrew is used for servant. Interestingly the DSS fragments which were found in the Qumran caves 1QIsaa don’t use the word אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc, rather it says Ahmd אחמד.
 
The original reading should read
 
Behold my servant, (Ahmd אחמד) Ahmed, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the nations. (Isaiah 42:1)

 
The is undeniable proof from the own ancient texts, which were hidden for centuries in jar proving the authenticity of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh. The Messenger of God who identity was hidden by the Masoretic text. Christians and Jews must submit and accept Prophet Muhammed Pbuh as the Chosen Messenger of God as mentioned in the earliest texts of Isaiah. Christians and Jews must also accept this unforgivable distortion by the scribes purely out of hatred for an Arab Prophet.
 
If only our Christian and Jewish friends study the DSS of Isaiah with an open mind, then they'll come to accept the truth and final Messenger Prophet Muhammed Pbuh the Chosen One of God.


What did King Jehoshaphat the son of Asa say to his congregation before the their battle with Moabites, Ammonites and Ammonim?
 
…Hear me, O Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: Believe in the LORD your God, and you will be upheld; believe in His Prophets, and you will succeed." (2 Chronicles 20:20)
 
 
 "Believe in the LORD your God, and you will be upheld; believe in His Prophets, and you will succeed." thus, believing in God and his Prophets is the will make you establish and succeed. If he cross reference this with Isaiah 42:1 "Behold my servant, (Ahmd אחמד) Ahmed, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the nations." we can conclude, both Christians and Jews must believe in Prophet Muhammed Pbuh to succeed.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Jewish Circumcision "Sucks"
« Last post by Mustafa on February 24, 2019, 06:40:16 PM »
According to Jewish tradition on circumcision, we learn they had a pretty disturbing way performing this surgery.  Jews regard circumcision as a covenant to Yahweh thus, they perform the act of circumcising a new born child as a devotion following the covenant made to Abraham. Each Jewish child must be circumcised so he is purified  and  join the covenant which his forefathers agreed to as part of the faith in God.

The question is, how was circumcision performed during ancient days? Well, the question to the answer is not limited.



The Circumcision Ritual
Circumcision consists of three actions: milah — cutting the foreskin with a knife, peri'ah — ripping the membrane with a fingernail, and mezizah — applying the mouth to the baby's bleeding penis and sucking blood from the wound.



MISHNAH. WE PERFORM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CIRCUMCISION ON THE SABBATH. WE CIRCUMCISE, UNCOVER [THE CORONA], SUCK [THE WOUND], AND PLACE A COMPRESS AND CUMMIN UPON IT. IF ONE DID NOT CRUSH [THE CUMMIM] ON THE EVE OF THE SABBATH, HE MUST CHEW [IT] WITH HIS TEETH AND APPLY [IT TO THE WOUND] …
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Shabbath 133a
Soncino 1961 Edition, pages 668-669


GEMARA. … WE SUCK OUT, etc. R. Papa said: If a surgeon does not suck [the WOUND], it is dangerous and he is dismissed. It is obvious? Since we desecrate the Sabbath for it, it is dangerous? — You might say that this blood is stored up, therefore he informs us that it is the result of a wound, and it is like a bandage and cummin: just as when one does not apply a bandage and cummin there is danger, so here too if one does not do it there is danger …
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Shabbath 133b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 672


he method to be adopted is laid down thus: 'One excises the foreskin, [that is] the entire skin covering the glans, so that the corona is laid bare. Afterwards, one tears with the fingernail the soft membrane underneath the skin, turning it to the sides until the flesh of the glans appears. Thereafter, one sucks the membrane until the blood is extracted from the [more] remote places, so that no danger [to the infant] may ensue; and any circumciser who does not carry out the sucking procedure is to be removed [from his office].' … The operation itself, then, consists of three distinct acts: the excision of the prepuce; the laceration of the mucous membrane covering the glans; and the sucking of the blood from the interior of the wound.
— Rabbi Lord Jakobovits (
Jewish Medical Ethics: A Comparative and Historical Study of the Jewish Religious Attitude to Medicine and Its Practice, New York: Bloch Publishing Company, 1959, pages 193-194)



The Jewish Encyclopedia (1906) gives this detailed description:
The operation [circumcision] consists of three parts: "milah," "peri'ah," and "mezizah."

Milah: The child having been placed upon a pillow resting upon the lap of the godfather or "sandek" (he who is honored by being assigned to hold the child), the mohel exposes the parts by removal of garments, etc., and instructs the sandek how to hold the child's legs. The mohel then grasps the prepuce between the thumb and index-finger of his left hand, exerting sufficient traction to draw it from the glans, and places the shield (see Fig. 1, next column) in position just before the glans. He now takes his knife and with one sweep excises the foreskin. This completes the first act. The knife (see Fig. 3) most commonly used is double-edged, although one like those ordinarily used by surgeons is also often employed.

Peri'ah: After the excision has been completed, the mohel seizes the inner lining of the prepuce, which still covers the glans, with the thumb-nail and index-finger of each hand, and tears it so that he can roll it fully back over the glans and expose the latter completely. The mohel usually has his thumb-nail suitably trimmed for the purpose. In exceptional cases the inner lining of the prepuce is more or less extensively adherent to the glans, which interferes somewhat with the ready removal; but persistent effort will overcome the difficulty.

Mezizah: By this is meant the sucking of the blood from the wound. The mohel takes some wine in his mouth and applies his lips to the part involved in the operation, and exerts suction, after which he expels the mixture of wine and blood into a receptacle (see Fig. 4, below) provided for the purpose. This procedure is repeated several times, and completes the operation, except as to the control of the bleeding and the dressing of the wound.



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In short during circumcision blood from the baby's penis has to be sucked. This is not only the tradition but also a custom. Jewish rabbis through centuries have been performing this act.

Jesus of the Bible would have been no exception to this Jewish tradition of circumcision.



 On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived. (Luke 2:21)


We read from the account of Luke, Jesus was circumcised when he was a baby. We also know from Jewish traditions how circumcision was performed. Now the question is did the rabbis who circumcised Jesus know he was circumcising God? If so was the same rabbi aware he was putting the penis of Yahweh in his mouth sucking the blood? If you say Jesus was a man or baby in this case it was not God, how does it sound the saviour of Christians had his penis inside the mouth of an unknown rabbi?

You can't have the cake and eat it. By tradition and ritual Jesus of the Bible being a Jew would have been circumcised the same way as any Jewish baby, he would not have been an exception.

Thus, we can conclude Jesus of the Bible was circumcised by a Jewish rabbi who put his penis in his mouth an sucked it.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / The Chosen One
« Last post by Mustafa on February 24, 2019, 06:32:11 PM »
Why don’t Christians and Jews except Prophet Muhammed Pbuh as the Messenger of God, when their very Bible confirms the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh as a Chosen Messenger of God Almighty. The earliest and most ancient written biblical text confirms this.
 
The DSS fragments found in the Qumran caves 1QIsaa reveal the distortion found in the Masoretic text which was written during the 10th century, the Aleppo Codex.
 
Now let's show the Christians and Jews where Prophet Muhammed Pbuh is mentioned in their scriptures are the chosen Messenger of God
 
"Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations. (Isaiah 42:1)
 
אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc in Hebrew is used for servant. Interestingly the DSS fragments which were found in the Qumran caves 1QIsaa don’t use the word אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc, rather it says Ahmd אחמד.
 
The original reading should read
 
Behold my servant, (Ahmd אחמד) Ahmed, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the nations. (Isaiah 42:1)
 
The is undeniable proof from the own ancient texts, which were hidden for centuries in jar proving the authenticity of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh. The Messenger of God who identity was hidden by the Masoretic text. Christians and Jews must submit and accept Prophet Muhammed Pbuh as the Chosen Messenger of God as mentioned in the earliest texts of Isaiah. Christians and Jews must also accept this unforgivable distortion by the scribes purely out of hatred for an Arab Prophet.
 
If only our Christian and Jewish friends study the DSS of Isaiah with an open mind, then they'll come to accept the truth and final Messenger Prophet Muhammed Pbuh the Chosen One of God.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Jews concealing their scriptures
« Last post by Mustafa on February 22, 2019, 04:08:51 PM »


And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and (by which) ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling. (Surah 6:91)

We are told in the Quran how the Jews took the revelation which was given to Moses Pbuh, that is the Torah and copied them on parchment, some they showed and most they concealed. Below is couple to example on the Jews hiding such texts. Bear in the second example is taken from the DSS fragments which were "hidden" in jars inside the Qumran caves.


This is a passage from the Mishnah which says the following: “Adam was created alone to teach you that whoever takes a human life is considered by the Bible to have destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a human life is considered by the Bible as if he preserved an entire world (Sanhedrin 4.5).

Take attention to the second line from the saying

"that whoever takes a human life is considered by the Bible to have destroyed an entire world"


it says, "whoever takes a human life of a Israeli is considered BY THE BIBLE as destroying the entire world" Can any Christians show us from their "inerrant, preserved Bible", such saying? Where can we find such a saying from the Bible which says, "killing one Israeli is like killing the whole world?"

It's clear from the Mishna this "verse" was part of the Torah so what happened to it? Seems clear it was concealed and instead taken out and made part of the oral tradition.

The second and most appealing evidence of concealment is from the following which is actually found in the present Bible, however with a distortion.

"Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations. (Isaiah 42:1)

אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc in Hebrew is used for servant. Interestingly the DSS fragments which were found in the Qumran caves don’t use the word אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc, rather it says Ahmd אחמד.

The original reading should read

Behold my servant, (Ahmd אחמד) Ahmed, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the nations. (Isaiah 42:1)


 This is an amazing discovery proving the Jews concealing the scriptures written down.  Its been long issue for Christians who kept bringing up Sanhedrin 4:5 claiming the Muslim Scriptures copied from the Talmud, but this clam is false, and evidence shows the Talmudic text was actually part of the Torah which the Jews kept out. (The Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsaa ) Isaiah 42:1 is a perfect example on Jews concealing the truth. The text found in the oldest fragment explicitly says (Ahmd אחמד), but with no hesitation the Jews changed the name to  אֶתְמָךְ־ Etmc as found in the Masoretic version.

We can conclude the Jews really played their deceptive part in changing and altering the Hebrew Bible.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Torah and Oral Law interchanged
« Last post by Mustafa on February 22, 2019, 04:07:01 PM »

The Jews brought [to the Prophet peace be upon him] a man and a woman among them who committed adultery. The Prophet peace be upon him said, "Bring the two most knowledgeable men from amongst you."  The Jews brought the two sons of Suriyya, and the Prophet peace be upon him asked them, "What punishment do you find in the Torah regarding these two?" They said, "In the Torah, we find that if four men testify that they saw his male organ in her womb, similar to when the eyeliner is inserted inside the eyeliner container; in this case they are stoned."  The Prophet peace be upon him said, "What made you stop stoning?" They said, "Our kingship (meaning Jewish) was taken from us and we hated killing." The Messenger of Allah asked for four witnesses and they brought four men who testified that they saw his penis in her womb like the eyeliner is inserted in the eyeliner container. The Messenger of Allah ordered that the two [adulterers] are stoned. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Hadith no. 3862, Source. Sheikh Albani declared this hadith authentic in Sunan Abu Dawud, hadith no.4452)

Indeed, we do find in the Old Testament today that adulterers are to be killed (Leviticus 20:10). But nowhere do we find anything about four witnesses (interestingly Islam teaches this) or any eyeliner.
This is indirect proof that this section of the Torah has been distorted with.


well, interestingly we find something on that line in the Jewish Oral ruling (Halakah).


If one has bodily contact or petting with one of the arayot (people with whom sexual relations are forbidden), or he hugged and had genital contact (literally kissing; c.f. Yevamot 55b) and benefited from nearness of the flesh, he receives (biblically sanctioned) lashes, and in suspected of having relations with arayot. Note: if he had intercourse with her, whether vaginally or anally, as soon as he begins intercourse, which is defined as insertion of the glans, he is liable for death or excision. And the witnesses do not need to observe closely similar to insertion of the eyeliner in the tube, rather as soon as the witnesses see them intertwined with one another in the manner of adulterers, they are punishable by death (Tur), and the women is forbidden to her husband (Nimukei Yosef, Yevamot chapter 2). An adult woman who had relations with a minor male under the age of 9 years, is not liable for death at his hand (Tur). It appears to me that she is similarly not forbidden to her husband. And therefore the Rabbi, author of the Turim code wrote many laws defining when people are liable for death or not. The modern day repercussions of these laws (when we no longer administer capital punishment) is that they define which relations cause a woman to become forbidden to her husband, and see further. A female less than 3 years old, her intercourse is not considered as intercourse, and her virginity returns (Hagahot Yevamot). Even if the years were intercalated (e.g she had intercourse at 37 months old in a leap year) her virginity returns (words of the Rav, based on Yerushalmi Ketuboth chapter 1).
(HALAKHAH Shulchan Arukh, Even HaEzer Siman 20)

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Let’s ignore the part where the text sanctions having intercourse with a 3 year old child “A female less than 3 years old, her intercourse is not considered as intercourse, and her virginity returns”(Hagahot Yevamot).

Notice how the rabbi rules, that the “witnesses do not need to observe closely similar to insertion of the eyeliner in the tube, rather as soon as the witnesses see them intertwined with one another in the manner of adulterers, they are punishable by death”. Now if we cross reference with the Hadith it reads:

“we find that if four men testify that they saw his male organ in her womb, similar to when the eyeliner is inserted inside the eyeliner container; in this case they are stoned.”

This shows that the Jews interchanged the word of God for the words of rabbis.  The Hadith is clear that the Jews testified it is written in their Torah. However this is found in the oral rulings not Torah, proving how the Jews took the words of rabbis more sacretly then the word of God. This can be clarified by the next authentic Hadith.

The Bani Israel wrote a book, they followed it and left the Torah. (This hadith was reported in Tabarani's Al Mu'jam Al Awsat and was authenticated by Sheikh Nasr Al Deen Al Albani in hisSilsila Al Ahaadeeth Al Saheeha, hadith no. 2832.)


Another example on how the Jews interchanged the word of God with the words of rabbis can be found from the Mishnah that: “Adam was created alone to teach you that whoever takes a human life is considered by the Bible to have destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a human life is considered by the Bible (scriptures) as if he preserved an entire world (Sanhedrin 4.5).

take attention on the second line from the saying

"that whoever takes a human life is considered by the Bible to have destroyed an entire world"


if says "whoever takes a human life of a Israeli is considered BY THE BIBLE (SCRIPTURES) as destroying the entire world" show us from the Bible where it says that? where can we find such a saying from the Bible which says "killing one Israeli is like killing the whole world?"


How about this

The Gemara asks: Why does the verse say: And he said? It should say: And I said. Why does the verse say: And you spared? It should say: And I spared.Rather, Rabbi Elazar said: David said to Saul: By Torah law, you should be killed, as you are a pursuer who seeks to kill me, and the Torah says: If one comes to kill you, kill him first. But it was the modesty that you displayed that spared you. (Talmud Berakhot Daf 62b:8)


Christians shouldn't have a problem showing us where in the Torah it say “If one comes to kill you, kill him first”   Unless the Jews were reading a different Torah?

We can conclude the current “Torah” which is read the Jews and Christians, is not the actual word of God. It may contain some words of God which was passed down orally and then written. However, calling it the absolute word of God would be injustice. 

The Jews of Medina read a different Torah then what the modern Jews read now. The Torah which the Jews of Medina read can be found in the oral law not the current Torah modern Jews read. This tell us not all the Jews during the early periods  held a consensus on the authenticity of scriptures.
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